5 gearhulks (one for each color)
1 mythic vechiele (cant remember name)
1 mythic duel colored elf (cant remember name)
3 planeswalkers (Dovin, sareheli, chandra)
1 Demon of Dark Schemes
1 Mythic artifact pretaining to energy (cant remember name).....
So that leaves 3 more if this is correct? Any thoughts on last 3? Im guessing we get a mythic pilot or myrhic fabricate. That may be interesting.
We more need to look at the color break down:
2 Black (Demon and Gearhulk)
2 Green (Elf Legend and Gearhulk)
3 Blue (Saheeli, Dovin, Gearhulk)
2 White (Gearhulk, Dovin?)
3 Red (Gearhulk, Chandra, Saheeli)
If Dovin is WU, as many think, then we are due one Mythic in Black, Green, and White
If Dovin is mono U, which is fairly possible too, then we would likely get a W/(B or G) mythic, a mono White mythic, and a mono-mythic in the color not paired with white. These would both give equal color representation over the mythics in the set, which Wizards is known for doing
Rashmi (the elf legend) is UB so it's +1 blue to your count
Rashimi is UG, not UB.
Thank you both for pointing this out, though it doesn't change my predictions it could mean Dovin is mono-white, for color balance, but I highly doubt that
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5 gearhulks (one for each color)
1 mythic vechiele (cant remember name)
1 mythic duel colored elf (cant remember name)
3 planeswalkers (Dovin, sareheli, chandra)
1 Demon of Dark Schemes
1 Mythic artifact pretaining to energy (cant remember name).....
So that leaves 3 more if this is correct? Any thoughts on last 3? Im guessing we get a mythic pilot or myrhic fabricate. That may be interesting.
We more need to look at the color break down:
2 Black (Demon and Gearhulk)
2 Green (Elf Legend and Gearhulk)
3 Blue (Saheeli, Dovin, Gearhulk)
2 White (Gearhulk, Dovin?)
3 Red (Gearhulk, Chandra, Saheeli)
If Dovin is WU, as many think, then we are due one Mythic in Black, Green, and White
If Dovin is mono U, which is fairly possible too, then we would likely get a W/(B or G) mythic, a mono White mythic, and a mono-mythic in the color not paired with white. These would both give equal color representation over the mythics in the set, which Wizards is known for doing
Rashmi (the elf legend) is UB so it's +1 blue to your count
Rashimi is UG, not UB.
Thank you both for pointing this out, though it doesn't change my predictions it could mean Dovin is mono-white, for color balance, but I highly doubt that
It seems likely we are getting three partially blue planeswalkers in this block with the reveal that Tezzeret is a player in the story. Thus we end up with Saheeli, Dovin Baan, and Tezzeret that will all be at least partially blue. I find it unlikely (but far from impossible) that Dovin is not at least partially blue as he is a vedalken with an abnormal sense of detail.
Thus, if Saheeli is Red/Blue, and if Tezzeret gets a card (likely) he will probably be Blue/Black, that would leave Dovin as either monoblue (possible) or blue/white (likely). With Chandra at red, that leaves green as the unaccounted for color, which will likely be taken up by Nissa.
Lily, although a player in the story, will likely first get her card in Amonkhet block.
just like Jace was present in the BFZ story but didn't get a card because he was going to be the main protagonist of SOI, Lily will be the main char of AKH (one of her demon will be here)
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So .....
5 Gearhulks
Saheeli
Rashmi
Demon
Aetherworks
Skyship
Safe to assume Chandra as mono R
There could be a mono W Dwarf mythic (the guy spoiled just now was kinda what I was thinking but he is rare so there goes that) but still another W legend
, a Land,
Dovan,
And im stuck on the last unless four walkers then Nissa
So .....
5 Gearhulks
Saheeli
Rashmi
Demon
Aetherworks
Skyship
Safe to assume Chandra as mono R
There could be a mono W Dwarf mythic (the guy spoiled just now was kinda what I was thinking but he is rare so there goes that) but still another W legend
, a Land,
Dovan,
And im stuck on the last unless four walkers then Nissa
Could be all wet I don't know
We know both Dovin and Chandra are in the set, giving us three walkers. IF we get a fourth in the set it'll like be Tez as an Esper walker, though he will likely get his card in Revolt. That leaves three open mythic spots, to which I would direct you to my previous post quoted above with my theory on what will fill those spots
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from the Spellslinger live stream:
Wispweaver Angel #35 (likely the end of the white section)
Fortuitous Find #81
Morbid Curiosity #94
Harness Lightning #117
Armorback Stomper #142
Armorcraft Judge #144
Longtusk Cub #161
Voltaic Brawler #189
Bomat Bazaar Barge #196?
Possibly Pilgrim's Eye reprint?
After this stream it looks like there will uneven distribution of mono-color cards. This will likely be address in the form of multi-color cards and colored abilities
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Chandra is confirmed at #110 (looks nuts)
Updated to reflect all of the PAX reveals. Those of you who were holding your breath for another printing of Llanowar Elves, I have bad news for you...
Yeah 3 left. It makes me wonder if we will get 16 mythics and 4 planeswalkers. It seems we may get a Tezz and Dovan.I know its possible we may get one in aeather revolt but the way wizards has been himtong makes me.think we will get them both here. Also i cant see us getting a land because i feel wizards would aim to balance. However anything can happen and its been unbalanced before.
Definitely getting four walkers in this set. Kinda hoped they would save Tezzeret for Aether Revolt, but since we saw his art tonight, that is less likely now.
Confirmed:
Verderous Gearhulk
Cataclysmic Gearhulk
Saheeli Rai
Chandra, Torch of Defiance
Demon of Shadiness
Metallurgical Summonings
Rashmi, Eternities Craftor
SkySovereign, Consul Flagship
Aetherworks Marvel
Torrential Gearhulk
( red gearguy )
( black gearguy )
Dovin, (Artifice Inspector??? Guesses??)
Nissa, Vital Force.
(Its prob just me but I find Nissa to be a boring uninspiring walker from the get go) (Bring back Garruk or come up with a new mono G walker. Maybe I need to read up on her but she is just so meh for me, she's elven right? I'm usually interested in elves too so even more of a slight to her I guess)
Lilliana is getting even more awesome as she goes however, I love her terrible influence and F-it attitude)
So one left. Doubtful it'll be Tezz, hell probably be in aether revolt
Doubtful it'll be the thing one the other pack art.
Maybe a Aetherborn mono B. or Dwarf mono W. Another spell, multicolored
Maybe two more for 16 mythics??
Four planeswalkers are more than usual... This happened in SOI, and again.
But we probably can expect only one planeswalker in Aether Revolt and it wil be Tezzeret.
Another legend we can rule out, Eshan Baat (his website art is used on Harnessed Lightning).
I'm reasonably confident that the names on that page are just World-Expanding characters, not Legendary creatures we're liable to see on cards.
Now, on the other hand, the Legendary creatures section (which formerly only had Pia and Kiran Nalaar) had an update recently, which included Pia, Rashmi, Depala, Gonti, and possibly as of yet unseen: Padeem, Consul of Innovation; Oviya Pashiri; and Kambal, Consul of Allocation
Four planeswalkers are more than usual... This happened in SOI, and again.
But we probably can expect only one planeswalker in Aether Revolt and it wil be Tezzeret.
I don't think it's possible for them to only do 1 walker. I was originally going to say I don't think it's likely, however given that they need two walkers from that set for the intro decks I think they pretty much need 2.
So, 6 walkers for Kaladesh block confirmed, as far as I'm concerned.
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Four planeswalkers are more than usual... This happened in SOI, and again.
But we probably can expect only one planeswalker in Aether Revolt and it wil be Tezzeret.
I don't think it's possible for them to only do 1 walker. I was originally going to say I don't think it's likely, however given that they need two walkers from that set for the intro decks I think they pretty much need 2.
So, 6 walkers for Kaladesh block confirmed, as far as I'm concerned.
Well, MaRo mentioned that the top four Planeswalkers in Shadows block were Jace (the face of SOI), Liliana (the face of EMN), Nahiri (the main antagonist), Sorin, then Tamiyo and Arlinn. So it feels like it's possible for the Planeswalker decks in the second set to pull from a previous set's Planeswalkers.
Well, MaRo mentioned that the top four Planeswalkers in Shadows block were Jace (the face of SOI), Liliana (the face of EMN), Nahiri (the main antagonist), Sorin, then Tamiyo and Arlinn. So it feels like it's possible for the Planeswalker decks in the second set to pull from a previous set's Planeswalkers.
I'm not sure I understand the relevance here. Just because they were the most important (is that what you mean by 'top'?) to the block and they were the ones that maybe would most likely get decks - don't you think they might have reordered them? Given the amount of cards that nahiri appears on in the 2nd set, it almost feels like she should have been in the 2nd set. I think the decks would have been Jace & Sorin in SOI and Nahiri and Liliana in EMN (with Nahiri also appearing in EMN)
Also, while I was wrong about Nissa getting a card in Kaladesh - I still feel like Gideon will get a card in the 2nd set. I think Tezzeret actually being on Kaladesh trumps Vraska 'maybe - possibly' being on Ravnica. Vraska isn't the only gorgon, after all. I still feel like Nissa's going to call Gideon in for the 2nd set (and maybe Jace if he can sneak away from his aide lady)
That said - that hypothesis requires that one of the planeswalkers being tri-coloured. Tezzeret and Dovin Ban are the only two whose colours are unknown in this scenario - and the most likely tri-colour for either of them is Esper. I doubt they'd do either Dovin WU/UB and Tezzeret WUB OR Dovin WUB and Tezzeret UB in the same set. I guess the only way Gideon makes sense is Dovin being U and Tezzeret being WUB - which seems a stretch.
Okay - I guess my theory about Gideon being in Kaladesh no longer makes logical sense
I still don't think they'd make a set with only one planeswalker.
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Well, MaRo mentioned that the top four Planeswalkers in Shadows block were Jace (the face of SOI), Liliana (the face of EMN), Nahiri (the main antagonist), Sorin, then Tamiyo and Arlinn. So it feels like it's possible for the Planeswalker decks in the second set to pull from a previous set's Planeswalkers.
I'm not sure I understand the relevance here. Just because they were the most important (is that what you mean by 'top'?) to the block and they were the ones that maybe would most likely get decks - don't you think they might have reordered them? Given the amount of cards that nahiri appears on in the 2nd set, it almost feels like she should have been in the 2nd set. I think the decks would have been Jace & Sorin in SOI and Nahiri and Liliana in EMN (with Nahiri also appearing in EMN)
Also, while I was wrong about Nissa getting a card in Kaladesh - I still feel like Gideon will get a card in the 2nd set. I think Tezzeret actually being on Kaladesh trumps Vraska 'maybe - possibly' being on Ravnica. Vraska isn't the only gorgon, after all. I still feel like Nissa's going to call Gideon in for the 2nd set (and maybe Jace if he can sneak away from his aide lady)
That said - that hypothesis requires that one of the planeswalkers being tri-coloured. Tezzeret and Dovin Ban are the only two whose colours are unknown in this scenario - and the most likely tri-colour for either of them is Esper. I doubt they'd do either Dovin WU/UB and Tezzeret WUB OR Dovin WUB and Tezzeret UB in the same set. I guess the only way Gideon makes sense is Dovin being U and Tezzeret being WUB - which seems a stretch.
Okay - I guess my theory about Gideon being in Kaladesh no longer makes logical sense
I still don't think they'd make a set with only one planeswalker.
Yes, that's what I meant by top. MaRo put them in roughly that order as far as "Who would get a Planeswalker deck." But no, I don't think they would reorder it. Having Nahiri in the first set was part of the anticipation and mystery of the Emrakul reveal. Not to mention, Tamiyo was not revealed to be on the plane until the "end" of SOI, and Liliana would not have fit in SOI either as a result of her being the face of EMN, and the whole "finally joining the Gatewatch" bit.
It probably would have been like you said, as far as the decks go, but I don't think they would have adjusted anything.
I don't think that they'd do a set with one Planeswalker either, but I don't believe that the one to go with Tezzeret in Aether Revolt is gonna be one we know of. It also doesn't necessitate tri-color, provided the color balance is okay, which would be possible with a WB Planeswalker of some kind.
Seems like the new mechanics, as far as limited and potential archetypes will go, will fall into RW for Vehicles, RG for Energy, and GW for Fabricate. The RG uncommon supports this, even if all 3 get support in all 5 colors.
Fair enough, I stand corrected. It is still rather unusual.
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Thank you both for pointing this out, though it doesn't change my predictions it could mean Dovin is mono-white, for color balance, but I highly doubt that
Standard - Some kind of control
Modern - UB Mill (casual)
EDH - Meren's Grave Shenanigans
It seems likely we are getting three partially blue planeswalkers in this block with the reveal that Tezzeret is a player in the story. Thus we end up with Saheeli, Dovin Baan, and Tezzeret that will all be at least partially blue. I find it unlikely (but far from impossible) that Dovin is not at least partially blue as he is a vedalken with an abnormal sense of detail.
Thus, if Saheeli is Red/Blue, and if Tezzeret gets a card (likely) he will probably be Blue/Black, that would leave Dovin as either monoblue (possible) or blue/white (likely). With Chandra at red, that leaves green as the unaccounted for color, which will likely be taken up by Nissa.
This will give us a spread of:
R: Chandra
WU: Dovin Baan
UB: Tezzeret
UR: Saheeli Rai
G: Nissa
Or, if we count mana numbers:
W: 0.5
U: 1.5
B: 0.5
R: 1.5
G: 1
Which is not an unlikely spread. It is possible we may end up with a surprise sixth walker again, but there is no guarantee.
Lily, although a player in the story, will likely first get her card in Amonkhet block.
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just like Jace was present in the BFZ story but didn't get a card because he was going to be the main protagonist of SOI, Lily will be the main char of AKH (one of her demon will be here)
5 Gearhulks
Saheeli
Rashmi
Demon
Aetherworks
Skyship
Safe to assume Chandra as mono R
There could be a mono W Dwarf mythic (the guy spoiled just now was kinda what I was thinking but he is rare so there goes that) but still another W legend
, a Land,
Dovan,
And im stuck on the last unless four walkers then Nissa
Could be all wet I don't know
We know both Dovin and Chandra are in the set, giving us three walkers. IF we get a fourth in the set it'll like be Tez as an Esper walker, though he will likely get his card in Revolt. That leaves three open mythic spots, to which I would direct you to my previous post quoted above with my theory on what will fill those spots
Standard - Some kind of control
Modern - UB Mill (casual)
EDH - Meren's Grave Shenanigans
Wispweaver Angel #35 (likely the end of the white section)
Fortuitous Find #81
Morbid Curiosity #94
Harness Lightning #117
Armorback Stomper #142
Armorcraft Judge #144
Longtusk Cub #161
Voltaic Brawler #189
Bomat Bazaar Barge #196?
Possibly Pilgrim's Eye reprint?
After this stream it looks like there will uneven distribution of mono-color cards. This will likely be address in the form of multi-color cards and colored abilities
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Metallurgic Summonings #56 (thought it would be a new Tez card)
Chandra is confirmed at #110 (looks nuts)
Standard - Some kind of control
Modern - UB Mill (casual)
EDH - Meren's Grave Shenanigans
If for no other reason than the card is highly tied to Dominaria.
We could see a Kaladesh or generic reflavoring of the effect, but I don't think we'll be getting that specific card.
Verderous Gearhulk
Cataclysmic Gearhulk
Saheeli Rai
Chandra, Torch of Defiance
Demon of Shadiness
Metallurgical Summonings
Rashmi, Eternities Craftor
SkySovereign, Consul Flagship
Aetherworks Marvel
W: 1 U: 2 B: 1 R: 1.5 G: 1.5 A: 2
We assume another R, U, and B Gearhulk (not so sure nowbut seems a cycle)
Then there are three left
If its a W creature, a land and Dovan......that would be
W: 2.5. U:3.5. B:2. R:2.5 G:1.5. A:2. L:1
Could be Nissa instead of the land?? Maybe 16 mythics?
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This will leave two mythic slots and given the color break down I would theorize that they are mono-mythics in Black and White
Standard - Some kind of control
Modern - UB Mill (casual)
EDH - Meren's Grave Shenanigans
But we probably can expect only one planeswalker in Aether Revolt and it wil be Tezzeret.
I'm reasonably confident that the names on that page are just World-Expanding characters, not Legendary creatures we're liable to see on cards.
Now, on the other hand, the Legendary creatures section (which formerly only had Pia and Kiran Nalaar) had an update recently, which included Pia, Rashmi, Depala, Gonti, and possibly as of yet unseen: Padeem, Consul of Innovation; Oviya Pashiri; and Kambal, Consul of Allocation
Edit: Oh, I see, you mean here: http://magic.wizards.com/en/story/planes/kaladesh
I don't think it's possible for them to only do 1 walker. I was originally going to say I don't think it's likely, however given that they need two walkers from that set for the intro decks I think they pretty much need 2.
So, 6 walkers for Kaladesh block confirmed, as far as I'm concerned.
Well, MaRo mentioned that the top four Planeswalkers in Shadows block were Jace (the face of SOI), Liliana (the face of EMN), Nahiri (the main antagonist), Sorin, then Tamiyo and Arlinn. So it feels like it's possible for the Planeswalker decks in the second set to pull from a previous set's Planeswalkers.
I'm not sure I understand the relevance here. Just because they were the most important (is that what you mean by 'top'?) to the block and they were the ones that maybe would most likely get decks - don't you think they might have reordered them? Given the amount of cards that nahiri appears on in the 2nd set, it almost feels like she should have been in the 2nd set. I think the decks would have been Jace & Sorin in SOI and Nahiri and Liliana in EMN (with Nahiri also appearing in EMN)
Also, while I was wrong about Nissa getting a card in Kaladesh - I still feel like Gideon will get a card in the 2nd set. I think Tezzeret actually being on Kaladesh trumps Vraska 'maybe - possibly' being on Ravnica. Vraska isn't the only gorgon, after all. I still feel like Nissa's going to call Gideon in for the 2nd set (and maybe Jace if he can sneak away from his aide lady)
That said - that hypothesis requires that one of the planeswalkers being tri-coloured. Tezzeret and Dovin Ban are the only two whose colours are unknown in this scenario - and the most likely tri-colour for either of them is Esper. I doubt they'd do either Dovin WU/UB and Tezzeret WUB OR Dovin WUB and Tezzeret UB in the same set. I guess the only way Gideon makes sense is Dovin being U and Tezzeret being WUB - which seems a stretch.
Okay - I guess my theory about Gideon being in Kaladesh no longer makes logical sense
I still don't think they'd make a set with only one planeswalker.
Yes, that's what I meant by top. MaRo put them in roughly that order as far as "Who would get a Planeswalker deck." But no, I don't think they would reorder it. Having Nahiri in the first set was part of the anticipation and mystery of the Emrakul reveal. Not to mention, Tamiyo was not revealed to be on the plane until the "end" of SOI, and Liliana would not have fit in SOI either as a result of her being the face of EMN, and the whole "finally joining the Gatewatch" bit.
It probably would have been like you said, as far as the decks go, but I don't think they would have adjusted anything.
I don't think that they'd do a set with one Planeswalker either, but I don't believe that the one to go with Tezzeret in Aether Revolt is gonna be one we know of. It also doesn't necessitate tri-color, provided the color balance is okay, which would be possible with a WB Planeswalker of some kind.
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