Oh hey look, warrior support from a mono- legend. Very nice to have both of these ladies see reprints. As for those wondering where the new cards are, it will be 1:59 for each deck.
So my question is: Does this mean we will be getting snow lands in this or on a return to Dominaria? As I recall MaRo was asking the community on the matter of snow lands, specifically Snow ABU dual lands back in December of 2016. And now here we have Lovisa who comes from one of the coldest places.
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
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With those as the face cards and the extra pricing looks like this might be a hard pass. They'd need to do something like have ancestral vision to go along with the suspend.
Given what the intended audience and purpose of the duel decks tend to be (more of a product for casual players and to be played rather than busted apart for singles as far as that goes...) I find it highly unlikely with the typical lower price point of the duel decks that they would put such a currently valuable card in there, which would all but guarantee that the decks would be bought up to be opened for singles sales much more than they would be used to be played as the decks. I would be curious though if anyone can recall a time, at the time the decks were released that there was a single card worth $40, $30, or even $20 in one of these decks (keeping in mind that duel deck foils tend to go for only about as much as their non-foil counterparts) the exception to that being planeswalkers that were on their way out and soon rotating from standard anyway that prior may have been going for more). That's not to say we wont see some decent cards in the decks (hopefully we will) but I wouldn't put my hopes up on Ancestral Vision. Now Mishra's bauble as a 1 of, I could certainly see (being an uncommon and only more recently spiking as much as it has), but even that I wouldn't specifically anticipate. Still, will be interesting to see when the decklists are released, and if this could harken to a return to dominaria sometime soon (which I would personally be 100% for)
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
That wording would imply that they've reissued errata on Lovisa Coldeyesagain. I've lost track of whether she gives herself her own bonus by now (she did, then she didn't, then she did, then she didn't... now she does again?).
The face cards don't immediately make me write this off. I was one of the few that bought Speed vs. Cunning just because I like Arcanis the Omnipotent and while these face cards don't have that same affection for me that doesn't mean that there may not be something else here. As for those calling for Ancestral Vision this most likely won't be in it, but honestly from a $25 product I expect about $35-$40 worth of value, which will then tank to $25.
That wording would imply that they've reissued errata on Lovisa Coldeyesagain. I've lost track of whether she gives herself her own bonus by now (she did, then she didn't, then she did, then she didn't... now she does again?).
Doesn't look like she gets a her own bonus from the way it looks.
That wording would imply that they've reissued errata on Lovisa Coldeyesagain. I've lost track of whether she gives herself her own bonus by now (she did, then she didn't, then she did, then she didn't... now she does again?).
No change to her latest Oracle wording - just the first time the wording sees print on paper. Functionally the only change from the original printing is that the defunct creature type Lord has been removed.
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Not having an Amonkhet preview as the foil mythic is weird, though.
Super-weird.[/irony]
Only half of the nonplaneswalker Duel Decks had a face-card that was also a preview. I could easily see them deciding that preview cards should follow a different rarity distribution and hence would no longer be justified as face-cards. There was also a mention that preview cards in Duel Decks make for too much of a time span between first preview and follow-up previews for a set (i. e. the start of the official two weeks of preview). Maybe they just removed the preview cards from face-card status to delay their reveal a little longer and tighten up the period of previews for the upcoming product.
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Planar Chaos was not a mistake neither was it random. You might want to look at it again.
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Not having an Amonkhet preview as the foil mythic is weird, though.
Super-weird.[/irony]
Only half of the nonplaneswalker Duel Decks had a face-card that was also a preview. I could easily see them deciding that preview cards should follow a different rarity distribution and hence would no longer be justified as face-cards. There was also a mention that preview cards in Duel Decks make for too much of a time span between first preview and follow-up previews for a set (i. e. the start of the official two weeks of preview). Maybe they just removed the preview cards from face-card status to delay their reveal a little longer and tighten up the period of previews for the upcoming product.
Where as I can take 4/9 as "half", I would like to point out to you that these were the FIRST four, before they even adopted the DD as means of preview (okay, first one used for previews was Elspeth vs. Tezzeret (just one card apiece and not the foil, and Knights vs Dragons was after that). The remaining FIVE (IvG, HvM, SvC, ZvE and BvC all have a preview face-card - Jarad, Polukranos, Zurgo, Sower and Mindwrack Demon).
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I'm actually ok with them never bringing suspend back. There are enough other things they can do in standard. That said, visions could use a reprint and these decks need a good card to keep them from cluttering up big box store shelves.
The trouble with suspend is that they already printed suspend, so it's in the cardpool now and not reprinting those cards without mass banning them from modern is tantamount to disaster. People are playing Rift Bolt and Ancestral Vision, both of which need reprints. It would be a miracle if we see Ancestral vision in a precon duel deck box, but it's possible.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
So my question is: Does this mean we will be getting snow lands in this or on a return to Dominaria? As I recall MaRo was asking the community on the matter of snow lands, specifically Snow ABU dual lands back in December of 2016. And now here we have Lovisa who comes from one of the coldest places.
And what if we get sand-covered lands in Amonkhet? Mind=blown.
Or at the very least, that badly needed Desert reprint?
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And the face cards are Jhoira of the Ghitu and Lovisa Coldeyes. These are not good cards, let alone make mythic/promotional material. We still have the lists coming up next week so I still hope there's something good in there but due to the last DD I wouldn't get my hopes up.
Edit: Seeing Jhoira, there might be a suspend theme in her deck. If so, Can we hope for an Ancestral Vision reprint? wishful thinking
That wording would imply that they've reissued errata on Lovisa Coldeyesagain. I've lost track of whether she gives herself her own bonus by now (she did, then she didn't, then she did, then she didn't... now she does again?).
Pretty sure Lovisa never buffed herself, since she's never been a Barbarian, Warrior, or Berserker.
And the face cards are Jhoira of the Ghitu and Lovisa Coldeyes. These are not good cards, let alone make mythic/promotional material. We still have the lists coming up next week so I still hope there's something good in there but due to the last DD I wouldn't get my hopes high
Jhoira, at least, is bonkers as a commander. Otherwise... yeah... these two are kitchen table cards.
Jhoira of the Ghitu:
- We should see a couple nice big fatties. Elder Deep Fiend would be nice for standard as well, but I imagine we'll see more Searing Winds and Inkwell Leviathans (which are still solid). Knollspine Dragon would be welcome for the EDH crowd.
- There is a small chance we'll see Ancestral Vision but I am not holding my breath.
- We should definitely have Rift Bolt though, and possibly some decent storm cards or artifact tricks.
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Wonder if we'll be getting full-on Grixis, or just UR. Mentalism seems to be pretty UB, so going with the full shard colors wouldn't surprise me.
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UW UW "Control"
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Usually,
but that image strongly suggests they have changed that policy.
Those arts seem legit.
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Given what the intended audience and purpose of the duel decks tend to be (more of a product for casual players and to be played rather than busted apart for singles as far as that goes...) I find it highly unlikely with the typical lower price point of the duel decks that they would put such a currently valuable card in there, which would all but guarantee that the decks would be bought up to be opened for singles sales much more than they would be used to be played as the decks. I would be curious though if anyone can recall a time, at the time the decks were released that there was a single card worth $40, $30, or even $20 in one of these decks (keeping in mind that duel deck foils tend to go for only about as much as their non-foil counterparts) the exception to that being planeswalkers that were on their way out and soon rotating from standard anyway that prior may have been going for more). That's not to say we wont see some decent cards in the decks (hopefully we will) but I wouldn't put my hopes up on Ancestral Vision. Now Mishra's bauble as a 1 of, I could certainly see (being an uncommon and only more recently spiking as much as it has), but even that I wouldn't specifically anticipate. Still, will be interesting to see when the decklists are released, and if this could harken to a return to dominaria sometime soon (which I would personally be 100% for)
Good lord the original art was awful.
Time Spiral, yadda yadda yadda...
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
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There is still a possibility to get some Amonkhet cards in the decks, right? Right?...
Doesn't look like she gets a her own bonus from the way it looks.
I am miffed it is not spoiling a new Mythic from Amonkhet.
Selling some cards I don't want.
Generally less than tcg mid.
No change to her latest Oracle wording - just the first time the wording sees print on paper. Functionally the only change from the original printing is that the defunct creature type Lord has been removed.
Finally a good white villain quote: "So, do I ever re-evaluate my life choices? Never, because I know what I'm doing is a righteous cause."
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Speed vs Cunning were Arcanis vs Zurgo Helmsmasher. Different times, different planes. The thematic decks are no more bound to real conflicts.
Not having an Amonkhet preview as the foil mythic is weird, though.
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
Maro said on his tumblr that he didn't like preview cards in duel decks so it looks like he won that battle.
Super-weird.[/irony]
Only half of the nonplaneswalker Duel Decks had a face-card that was also a preview. I could easily see them deciding that preview cards should follow a different rarity distribution and hence would no longer be justified as face-cards. There was also a mention that preview cards in Duel Decks make for too much of a time span between first preview and follow-up previews for a set (i. e. the start of the official two weeks of preview). Maybe they just removed the preview cards from face-card status to delay their reveal a little longer and tighten up the period of previews for the upcoming product.
Finally a good white villain quote: "So, do I ever re-evaluate my life choices? Never, because I know what I'm doing is a righteous cause."
Factions: Sleeping
Remnants: Valheim
Legendary Journey: Heroes & Planeswalkers
Saga: Shards of Rabiah
Legends: The Elder Dragons
Read up on Red Flags & NWO
Where as I can take 4/9 as "half", I would like to point out to you that these were the FIRST four, before they even adopted the DD as means of preview (okay, first one used for previews was Elspeth vs. Tezzeret (just one card apiece and not the foil, and Knights vs Dragons was after that). The remaining FIVE (IvG, HvM, SvC, ZvE and BvC all have a preview face-card - Jarad, Polukranos, Zurgo, Sower and Mindwrack Demon).
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Or at the very least, that badly needed Desert reprint?
WUBRG Humans
BRW Mardu Pyromancer
UW UW "Control"
UR Blue Moon
Edit: Seeing Jhoira, there might be a suspend theme in her deck. If so, Can we hope for an Ancestral Vision reprint? wishful thinking
Jhoira, at least, is bonkers as a commander. Otherwise... yeah... these two are kitchen table cards.
For Lovisa:
- Rares will probably be nothin' but trash: Vengeful Firebrand, Kamahl, Pit Fighter, etc. Scab-clan Berserker will at least be a strong card in the matchup for folks who care.
- Bloodbraid Elf, Might of Old Krosa, and Rancor could make for some spicy money reprints.
- We may be lucky enough to have snowlands + Skred, Into the North, and Scrying Sheets (although that last one feels a bit too smart for a big berserker deck.
Jhoira of the Ghitu:
- We should see a couple nice big fatties. Elder Deep Fiend would be nice for standard as well, but I imagine we'll see more Searing Winds and Inkwell Leviathans (which are still solid). Knollspine Dragon would be welcome for the EDH crowd.
- There is a small chance we'll see Ancestral Vision but I am not holding my breath.
- We should definitely have Rift Bolt though, and possibly some decent storm cards or artifact tricks.
RCRDaretti: Superfriends Forever RCR
WGBDoran: Ent-mootWBG
GGGMultani: Group Bear HugGGG
GB(B/G)The Gitrog Monster: Dredgefall DurdleGB(B/G)
RGWGahiji, the Honored Group Hug MonsterRGW
UB(U/B)Yuriko, Ninja Trinket AggroUB(U/B)
WUBRGAtogatog: Assembling a OHKOWUBRG
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