While plenty cards are definitely going to be coming from INN and RTR I can't imagine Lightning Helix nor Lingering Souls being made rare. Here's the hope I can draft Lightning Helix along with Warleader's Helix (love this card by the way) at the same time and burn/gain life for days.
Frankly, they need to shove this one with as much value as they can to make up for the last three terrible attempts at it, not to mention just getting reprints out there. Not every card has to fit into a draft archtype, trying to fit each card into an archtype is partly why MM2 had so little noticeable reprints and instead got things like Long-Forgotten Gohei that even in the right archtype was terrible. Of course the card should still be playable, else we end up with Daybreak Coronet where it literally couldn't be played unless you drafted Goblin Warpaint and/or Splinter Twin.
What about Goblin Guide? Burn and zoo has because a big part of the metagame, and this can fit in both (Well, some zoo . . .). Also, Monastery Swiftspear and, some fetchlands maybe?
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Weird...just talking to someone today about building legacy burn and we discussed the cost to buy in hinging upon those exact cards. And I told him to see what MM2017 brings about, mainly for Goblin Guide.
What about Goblin Guide? Burn and zoo has because a big part of the metagame, and this can fit in both (Well, some zoo . . .). Also, Monastery Swiftspear and, some fetchlands maybe?
Monastery Swiftspear is ineligible - this printing goes through Return to Ravnica. THS and KTK blocks will be available in Modern Masters 2019.
Fetchlands are a pipe dream in this sort of product.
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What about Goblin Guide? Burn and zoo has because a big part of the metagame, and this can fit in both (Well, some zoo . . .). Also, Monastery Swiftspear and, some fetchlands maybe?
Goblin Guide is on my top 5 list of most likely reprints in this set. I would never touch them before the set is fully spoiled. That said, you want to keep your finger on the buy button on the final spoiler day, because if it's not in there, it's going to spike hard and plateau at its higher price. Either way, it's a win if you are in the market for some Guides - you either get them at a new, lower price, or you get to snipe them just as they increase in value.
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Im looking to improve my soul sisters deck and i need 2 to 4 auriok champion and up to 3 archangel of thune but since mm17 is just around the corner, i wanna ask you guys what are the chance auriok gets a reprint?
I believe the chances are high since the price keeps going up and it never got reprinted in any other secondary product but i know this doesnt mean anything damnation comes to mind.
I know mm17 is supposed to focus on RTR and innistrad but mm15 focused on 8 edition to new phyrexia and there wasnt a BIG focus of NP cards if you ask me, i mostly got some lorwyn/shadowmoor and alara rare crap in my box. Besides Iona and karn, imo NP hadnt the best cards in mm15 so this just tells me that RTR and innistrad might get the same treatment in mm17.
Im sure that im not the only one that wants or needs an auriok or 4 and if shes not reprinted im scared her price will go through the roof once more.
However if she gets a reprint what are the chance that she will be the daybreak coronet of mm17 whos price keeps going down and was over 20$ before reprint
So should i buy auriok and the angels right now or should i wait for the spoilers? (english aint my first language)
Do you guys agree that there will be no double-faced cards due to printing logistics not being worth it? They did do only five DFC in Origins, but that was a Standard print run, and the cards in question was the opening chapter of the whole "Gatewatch-saga"-thing. I find it unlikely that they'd do something similar in a limited print run to include Delver of Secrets, Huntmaster of the fells and whatever.
Probably if they keep doing these biannually, when we get to MM2021 they can perhaps contemplate having a DFC-sheet, since they will have both Innistrad blocks to pull from as well as the five Origins walkers.
Do you guys agree that there will be no double-faced cards due to printing logistics not being worth it? They did do only five DFC in Origins, but that was a Standard print run, and the cards in question was the opening chapter of the whole "Gatewatch-saga"-thing. I find it unlikely that they'd do something similar in a limited print run to include Delver of Secrets, Huntmaster of the fells and whatever.
Probably if they keep doing these biannually, when we get to MM2021 they can perhaps contemplate having a DFC-sheet, since they will have both Innistrad blocks to pull from as well as the five Origins walkers.
Yes, absolutely. Breaking out the DFC printing tech is a huge cost, and there aren`t really any DFCs that are in desperate need of a reprint.
... Yet. Watch flip Jace become the next format`s Tarmogoyf because they are going to wait way, waaay too long to reprint a double-faced, plane-specific PW.
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Do you guys agree that there will be no double-faced cards due to printing logistics not being worth it? They did do only five DFC in Origins, but that was a Standard print run, and the cards in question was the opening chapter of the whole "Gatewatch-saga"-thing. I find it unlikely that they'd do something similar in a limited print run to include Delver of Secrets, Huntmaster of the fells and whatever.
Probably if they keep doing these biannually, when we get to MM2021 they can perhaps contemplate having a DFC-sheet, since they will have both Innistrad blocks to pull from as well as the five Origins walkers.
Yes, absolutely. Breaking out the DFC printing tech is a huge cost, and there aren`t really any DFCs that are in desperate need of a reprint.
... Yet. Watch flip Jace become the next format`s Tarmogoyf because they are going to wait way, waaay too long to reprint a double-faced, plane-specific PW.
They should just print a small set of only double-faced cards. the rarities may be out of whack though since there are only ~125 DFC between both innistrad blocks.
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Yes, absolutely. Breaking out the DFC printing tech is a huge cost, and there aren`t really any DFCs that are in desperate need of a reprint.
... Yet. Watch flip Jace become the next format`s Tarmogoyf because they are going to wait way, waaay too long to reprint a double-faced, plane-specific PW.
...and when they do, he'll be in Frontier Masters, since he's seeing way more play in that format than in modern.
Mana confluence wont get reprinted this MM, so you'll want to pick up your copies now.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
And while things like Horizon Canopy are also in dire need of reprints, I don't think there's a chance unless they print the whole cycle. Oh, and an honorable mention to Mana Reflection since these sets often throw Commander players a bone.
Heck, Reflecting Pool is an EDH staple at this point and it only ever got two printings to show for it. Cavern of Souls is a major one that needs more printings for sure, though. Kind of wish I was playing when it was first released because I'm almost certain it would have been 2-5 usd back then.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Heck, Reflecting Pool is an EDH staple at this point and it only ever got two printings to show for it. Cavern of Souls is a major one that needs more printings for sure, though. Kind of wish I was playing when it was first released because I'm almost certain it would have been 2-5 usd back then.
Reflecting Pool has been printed three times (Tempest, Shadowmoor, Conspiracy),
and $10 is the cheapest Cavern of Souls ever got.
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Heck, Reflecting Pool is an EDH staple at this point and it only ever got two printings to show for it. Cavern of Souls is a major one that needs more printings for sure, though. Kind of wish I was playing when it was first released because I'm almost certain it would have been 2-5 usd back then.
Cavern of Souls never gets 2-5 usd price tag in the history. I am pretty sure.
The cheapest one (after the rotation) I have seen is about 15 cad, which is equal to 12~14 usd I guess.
I spent 77 usd for a playset during the release of AVR
There are a lot of expensive cards in need of a reprint, but if we have MM2015 in mind if a card like Liliana of the veil is in the set, the rare slot will be full of jank rares like geist-honored monk and Gyre sage. So I would really tone my hopes down...
There are a lot of expensive cards in need of a reprint, but if we have MM2015 in mind if a card like Liliana of the veil is in the set, the rare slot will be full of jank rares like geist-honored monk and Gyre sage. So I would really tone my hopes down...
I don't understand this logic. The lesser said about MM15 the better, but MM13 and EMA had the goods. They had plenty of good rares and mythics. Jank rares will always happen, regardless of the mythic selection.
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Heck, Reflecting Pool is an EDH staple at this point and it only ever got two printings to show for it. Cavern of Souls is a major one that needs more printings for sure, though. Kind of wish I was playing when it was first released because I'm almost certain it would have been 2-5 usd back then.
Reflecting Pool has been printed three times (Tempest, Shadowmoor, Conspiracy),
and $10 is the cheapest Cavern of Souls ever got.
Eh, I'd take 10 dollar caverns! We'll probably never see them that cheap again in their lifetime without it being released somewhere else besides MM17, though. I'm still keeping my hopes up they reprint the Time Spiral lands, but we'll have to wait and see.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
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While plenty cards are definitely going to be coming from INN and RTR I can't imagine Lightning Helix nor Lingering Souls being made rare. Here's the hope I can draft Lightning Helix along with Warleader's Helix (love this card by the way) at the same time and burn/gain life for days.
Frankly, they need to shove this one with as much value as they can to make up for the last three terrible attempts at it, not to mention just getting reprints out there. Not every card has to fit into a draft archtype, trying to fit each card into an archtype is partly why MM2 had so little noticeable reprints and instead got things like Long-Forgotten Gohei that even in the right archtype was terrible. Of course the card should still be playable, else we end up with Daybreak Coronet where it literally couldn't be played unless you drafted Goblin Warpaint and/or Splinter Twin.
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Monastery Swiftspear is ineligible - this printing goes through Return to Ravnica. THS and KTK blocks will be available in Modern Masters 2019.
Fetchlands are a pipe dream in this sort of product.
Stay reasonable, be mindful of your expectations and don't feed the trolls.
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I believe the chances are high since the price keeps going up and it never got reprinted in any other secondary product but i know this doesnt mean anything damnation comes to mind.
I know mm17 is supposed to focus on RTR and innistrad but mm15 focused on 8 edition to new phyrexia and there wasnt a BIG focus of NP cards if you ask me, i mostly got some lorwyn/shadowmoor and alara rare crap in my box. Besides Iona and karn, imo NP hadnt the best cards in mm15 so this just tells me that RTR and innistrad might get the same treatment in mm17.
Im sure that im not the only one that wants or needs an auriok or 4 and if shes not reprinted im scared her price will go through the roof once more.
However if she gets a reprint what are the chance that she will be the daybreak coronet of mm17 whos price keeps going down and was over 20$ before reprint
So should i buy auriok and the angels right now or should i wait for the spoilers? (english aint my first language)
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Yeah it will spike if not in there. :/
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Anything not in here that's a great card (playable, has high value) is going to shoot through the roof.
End of this month, although maybe they'll give us a card or two before that.
Probably if they keep doing these biannually, when we get to MM2021 they can perhaps contemplate having a DFC-sheet, since they will have both Innistrad blocks to pull from as well as the five Origins walkers.
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... Yet. Watch flip Jace become the next format`s Tarmogoyf because they are going to wait way, waaay too long to reprint a double-faced, plane-specific PW.
Stay reasonable, be mindful of your expectations and don't feed the trolls.
Doomsdayin'
They should just print a small set of only double-faced cards. the rarities may be out of whack though since there are only ~125 DFC between both innistrad blocks.
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big receipts
alpha mox emerald
beta time walk
4 goyfs received
3 liliana of the veil
4 karn liberated
3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation
...and when they do, he'll be in Frontier Masters, since he's seeing way more play in that format than in modern.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Mana Confluence won't be able to show up until MM4, at the earliest. I agree with Cavern and Reflecting Pool. Horizon Canopy and Grove of the Burnwillows definitely need a reprint as well.
1. Liliana of the Veil
2. Snapcaster Mage
3. Goblin Guide
4. Ensnaring Bridge
5. Damnation
6. Auriok Champion
7. Cavern of Souls
8. Blood Moon
9. Ancestral Vision
10. filter lands
And while things like Horizon Canopy are also in dire need of reprints, I don't think there's a chance unless they print the whole cycle. Oh, and an honorable mention to Mana Reflection since these sets often throw Commander players a bone.
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Heck, Reflecting Pool is an EDH staple at this point and it only ever got two printings to show for it. Cavern of Souls is a major one that needs more printings for sure, though. Kind of wish I was playing when it was first released because I'm almost certain it would have been 2-5 usd back then.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Folks dont like to be countered.
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Reflecting Pool has been printed three times (Tempest, Shadowmoor, Conspiracy),
and $10 is the cheapest Cavern of Souls ever got.
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
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Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
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Cavern of Souls never gets 2-5 usd price tag in the history. I am pretty sure.
The cheapest one (after the rotation) I have seen is about 15 cad, which is equal to 12~14 usd I guess.
I spent 77 usd for a playset during the release of AVR
Anything, but nothing at the moment...
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I'm really hoping the Future Sight lands get turned in to 5 new cycles in standard sets rather than reprinted in Masters sets.
I don't understand this logic. The lesser said about MM15 the better, but MM13 and EMA had the goods. They had plenty of good rares and mythics. Jank rares will always happen, regardless of the mythic selection.
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Eh, I'd take 10 dollar caverns! We'll probably never see them that cheap again in their lifetime without it being released somewhere else besides MM17, though. I'm still keeping my hopes up they reprint the Time Spiral lands, but we'll have to wait and see.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!