If the print run was high, Goyf's prices would plummet and collectors would have a fit.
Personally, I'm fine with non-optimal cards in Commander decks as it gives those cards a chance to shine in casual games. I care more that the deck is chock-full of cards that fit its themes.
I got zero problems with goyf getting printed to death and back. The intent is we play and collect cards: 50+ and even 30+ dollar cards do not promote playing the game. It does greatly boost the card framing industry though. Buy a good frame, get a future sight goyf, and Mount that sucker on your gaming room wall for some bling.
It will fit right in with the graded dual lands and original Aladdin's Ring.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Trying to piggyback on the success of DDA. Uses the name but has nothing in common with the actual idea. I feel like this is a super common trend for WOTC.
Formula:
1. Come up with a new idea that is successful due to its creativity, value, and execution.
2. Push out a second version with a similar name.
2a. eliminates creativity
2b. remove value by including junk
3. Profit
This is what confuses me though, Removeing the value literaly costs them sales, If they stuck a shock/fetch in each of the multicolored ones and a goyf in the monogreen one they would fly off the shelves reguardless of how many they pritned, the price for them (by the card) would be identical, they pay by the card not the secondary markets value. Step 2b seems to be cripple step 3.
However, nonetheless, while it does contradict itself (2b --> 3) that is actually how it has played out with multiple products in the past. So, feel free to conclude for yourself why it continues to happen because I cannot understand it either. I suppose, the only logical explanation I can identify is that there are more people buying the product that are ignorant to its contents and the availability on the secondary market than there are of educated buyers such as those on this forum.
So, feel free to conclude for yourself why it continues to happen because I cannot understand it either. I suppose, the only logical explanation I can identify is that there are more people buying the product that are ignorant to its contents and the availability on the secondary market than there are of educated buyers such as those on this forum.
It's ignorant to call someone "ignorant" for wanting something you don't want. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." There's nothing more logical than selling a product with "junk" in it, if it's selling well. If collectors want their cards to keep their value, reprinting them in a product that's already selling well is the most illogical thing they could possibly do. That's a pretty easy thing to understand, honestly.
So, feel free to conclude for yourself why it continues to happen because I cannot understand it either. I suppose, the only logical explanation I can identify is that there are more people buying the product that are ignorant to its contents and the availability on the secondary market than there are of educated buyers such as those on this forum.
It's ignorant to call someone "ignorant" for wanting something you don't want. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." There's nothing more logical than selling a product with "junk" in it, if it's selling well. If collectors want their cards to keep their value, reprinting them in a product that's already selling well is the most illogical thing they could possibly do. That's a pretty easy thing to understand, honestly.
You're being overly defensive. Ignorant doesn't have to be taken as an insult. As in this case, I was using ignorant to describe the fact that they don't show the contents of the preconstructed Commander decks on the box. Soooooo, unless you're looking it up online, you would be ignorant to the contents.
Then, as an extension, if you don't know what's in the box it would be difficult to know that you can purchase the individual cards that you desire on the secondary market for far less than purchasing this box.
Basically, I was describing the average consumer...
So, feel free to conclude for yourself why it continues to happen because I cannot understand it either. I suppose, the only logical explanation I can identify is that there are more people buying the product that are ignorant to its contents and the availability on the secondary market than there are of educated buyers such as those on this forum.
It's ignorant to call someone "ignorant" for wanting something you don't want. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." There's nothing more logical than selling a product with "junk" in it, if it's selling well. If collectors want their cards to keep their value, reprinting them in a product that's already selling well is the most illogical thing they could possibly do. That's a pretty easy thing to understand, honestly.
You're being overly defensive. Ignorant doesn't have to be taken as an insult. As in this case, I was using ignorant to describe the fact that they don't show the contents of the preconstructed Commander decks on the box. Soooooo, unless you're looking it up online, you would be ignorant to the contents.
Then, as an extension, if you don't know what's in the box it would be difficult to know that you can purchase the individual cards that you desire on the secondary market for far less than purchasing this box.
Basically, I was describing the average consumer...
Good god, calm down.
Nothing I said to you should have lead you to believe I had lost my calm, and I haven't. Have you? I don't know who will end up buying this product any more than you do, but as I said earlier, plenty of people (MTGS members and nonmembers), fully educated on its contents, and on MTG pricing and availability, are going to want it. I don't understand how you and some other vocal people here do not understand that. You've shown you don't understand a lot of what WotC deals with when making decisions, yet here you are being critical again.
If you post something that is incorrect, there's a chance I'll respond to it. I do it to try and help you gain perspective, not because I'm mad.
I wouldn't base a decision on buying this anothologies via the secondary market pricing. Those prices are going to drop pretty heavily given the fact two different commander products + Iconic masters are going to get released in a relatively short time frame. The only deck I really want is Heavenly Inferno and mostly want the others for parts.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
It should be noted that over the previous couple of days there was a massive buyout of the commander anthology box sets (pre orders obviously), to where they had been available for as low as $145, now there are hardly any at all available, with the cheapest sealed copies (the $160 one from Germany isn't for a sealed box set) at $180 now and selling very fast it would seem. I suppose we will see how things shape up once the product is actually released. After seeing all that craziness from ebay, I looked around a bit more and saw that there are quite a few available for as low as $161 shipped on tcgplayer (though that's only for 1 seller, the rest are all $180+ shipped), Looking around at most of the other stores I would look to for pre-orders, most all of them appear to be showing as sold out right now. Guess I should have grabbed one of them at $145 when I had the chance, but that's okay, I'm willing to be patient. Honestly with everything that comes with it though, I'm not surprised that it would be popular. You get all 4 of the decks (with the foil primary commanders at the very least), the 4 life counters (similar to the commander arsenal ones), and of course the shiny box that all of it comes in. I can certainly see the value at $160 to be sure, we'll just have to see how the supply/demand of this shakes out over the next few weeks.
It should be noted that over the previous couple of days there was a massive buyout of the commander anthology box sets (pre orders obviously), to where they had been available for as low as $145, now there are hardly any at all available, with the cheapest sealed copies (the $160 one from Germany isn't for a sealed box set) at $180 now and selling very fast it would seem. I suppose we will see how things shape up once the product is actually released. After seeing all that craziness from ebay, I looked around a bit more and saw that there are quite a few available for as low as $161 shipped on tcgplayer (though that's only for 1 seller, the rest are all $180+ shipped), Looking around at most of the other stores I would look to for pre-orders, most all of them appear to be showing as sold out right now. Guess I should have grabbed one of them at $145 when I had the chance, but that's okay, I'm willing to be patient. Honestly with everything that comes with it though, I'm not surprised that it would be popular. You get all 4 of the decks (with the foil primary commanders at the very least), the 4 life counters (similar to the commander arsenal ones), and of course the shiny box that all of it comes in. I can certainly see the value at $160 to be sure, we'll just have to see how the supply/demand of this shakes out over the next few weeks.
Will be interesting to see if WOTC will flood the market with tons of boxes like how they did with Planechase Anthology. But at the moment with 3 of the commanders being regular size foil for the 1st time, the value is there.
It's funny. In nearly every other industry, when a product gets rereleased in a collection with other existing products you'd expect to get those products at a discount, to reflect your bulk purchase, the fact that you may not necessarily want all included products, and the lack of R&D costs necessary to rerelease existing products. But when something can get labeled a "collectors item" and "limited edition" you can put in some cheap trinkets and fancy packaging and people will line up to spend even more money on it than they originally costed.
It should be noted that over the previous couple of days there was a massive buyout of the commander anthology box sets (pre orders obviously), to where they had been available for as low as $145, now there are hardly any at all available, with the cheapest sealed copies (the $160 one from Germany isn't for a sealed box set) at $180 now and selling very fast it would seem. I suppose we will see how things shape up once the product is actually released. After seeing all that craziness from ebay, I looked around a bit more and saw that there are quite a few available for as low as $161 shipped on tcgplayer (though that's only for 1 seller, the rest are all $180+ shipped), Looking around at most of the other stores I would look to for pre-orders, most all of them appear to be showing as sold out right now. Guess I should have grabbed one of them at $145 when I had the chance, but that's okay, I'm willing to be patient. Honestly with everything that comes with it though, I'm not surprised that it would be popular. You get all 4 of the decks (with the foil primary commanders at the very least), the 4 life counters (similar to the commander arsenal ones), and of course the shiny box that all of it comes in. I can certainly see the value at $160 to be sure, we'll just have to see how the supply/demand of this shakes out over the next few weeks.
Will be interesting to see if WOTC will flood the market with tons of boxes like how they did with Planechase Anthology. But at the moment with 3 of the commanders being regular size foil for the 1st time, the value is there.
I think the problem with planechase wasn't just that they flooded the market, but that nobody cares about planechase. Commander is hugely popular and people would probably love to see the shelves flooded with these things.
Euro also has a little more weight as a currency than the US Dollar, thanks to one former President Nixon taking us off the gold standard and allowing the feds to hyperinflate our currency to the point where a packet of garden dirt is worth more since you can at least grow stuff in it. Just one of many misdeeds committed by the wonderful US Government.
So yeah, scalpers are at it again. At least it's not as bad as that NES Classic disaster. But pretty much anything with Kaalia in it is guaranteed to be scalper bait. I don't like sounding pessimistic, but watch as she's revealed to be in Iconic Masters and suddenly your LGS has a mysterious shortage of IMA boxes.
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MTGS Wikia Article about "New World Order"
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
Euro also has a little more weight as a currency than the US Dollar, thanks to one former President Nixon taking us off the gold standard and allowing the feds to hyperinflate our currency to the point where a packet of garden dirt is worth more since you can at least grow stuff in it. Just one of many misdeeds committed by the wonderful US Government.
So yeah, scalpers are at it again. At least it's not as bad as that NES Classic disaster. But pretty much anything with Kaalia in it is guaranteed to be scalper bait. I don't like sounding pessimistic, but watch as she's revealed to be in Iconic Masters and suddenly your LGS has a mysterious shortage of IMA boxes.
Not that you're wrong about Nixon and the $, but I doubt there's enough gold on Earth, let alone in America, to back the amount of paper money now in circulation.
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I know he thinks I'm impressed by a 102 MPH fastball in the 9th inning... Ok, I'm impressed, but that doesn't mean I can't crush it.
My question is who is going to spend 165 usd for a box set of commander decks where the only thing propping up the value of the entire set is Kalia and the Frayalise deck? The secondary market MSRP is higher than the box set, but those prices are a horrible way to price a product and all those prices are going to go down once this hits the shelves. Maybe the price is that high because of the packaging and life counter dice?
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Well, as I suspected might happen, as we are now on the eve of the release, the supply of these has gone up dramatically on ebay, and along with it, so has the price come back down to earth. The current lowest price being $140 shipped, though there are a bunch of listings just above that with best offers attached, so as you can imagine, that continues to put downward pressure on the price. Unlike the planechase anthology box sets which the supply utterly overwhelmed demand and caused the price to come down as low as half of msrp before seeming to finally stabilize just recently, I suspect that the commander anthology box set will keep a higher value. Likely stabilizing closer to $120 in the near term, and as always supply dependent, likely not drop below $100 in the longer term before bottoming out (though could very well stabilize higher). Demand will be much higher than planechase anthology, but if supply is similar, that will still put a damper on the price for a while at least. The foil commanders will help a good bit, plus the life counters. Its really interesting to look at from a value breakdown standpoint, figuring longer term with more downward pressure. If you figure a bottom of $50 for the heavenly inferno deck, $25 for each of the guided by nature and plunder the graves, and say $15 for the evasive maneuvers deck, that by itself is $115, plus the 4 life counters, that's likely another $40, bringing you up to $155 on the lower end of value from a reasonable valuation standpoint. For re-sellers, you figure around 20% for ebay/paypal fees, and shipping costs and you end up somewhere round $125 to break even at the low point. Part of why I figure $100 would be the likely floor for the box set, simply due to re-sellers willing to buy them at that point to sell for a profit. In the shorter more immediate term, I could see re-sellers paying as much as $120 and being able to reasonably profit with current higher values for the decks. Anyhow, will be interesting to see how things end up over the next couple weeks and how low the price gets on ebay with the likely flood of supply continuing to increase.
Well, there really is no denying that this should have been all the Gen 1 decks rebundled at the 165 msrp and not a deck from each generation, as the only one that no one really could get their hands on was the original grouping of decks.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Honestly for someone who doesn't already have the decks, this box set isn't a bad deal at all. You get heavenly inferno (probably one of it not the most popular commander deck ever), Guided by Nature (cant go wrong with an elf commander deck), Plunder the Graves (most popular deck from that year), and Evasive Maneuvers (I guess they had to pick something from 2013? :p). Anyway, while yes, including all 5 of the original commander decks would have solved that particular supply issue with the market and given a lot of people plenty of reason to buy the box set, I'm not sure it would really qualify as an anthology box set really in that particular case.)
Anyhow, what's done is done, and we have what we have. I don't think its a bad combination of decks, well, at least 3 of the 4 anyway (though 2013 was a bit of an odd year).
The anthology should have been the original decks, not one from each year because the later years were reprinted to death. And I'm not saying this like the idea of the anthology with that mindset is wrong, just that Wizards marketing has a bad habit of constantly over-pricing their box sets these last couple of releases and making players and stores pay for it. 160 would have been the price if all four were Gen 1. The mix they have in that box is really 120 + 15 for the life counter dice that are more of a bonus than anything.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
The anthology should have been the original decks, not one from each year because the later years were reprinted to death. And I'm not saying this like the idea of the anthology with that mindset is wrong, just that Wizards marketing has a bad habit of constantly over-pricing their box sets these last couple of releases and making players and stores pay for it. 160 would have been the price if all four were Gen 1. The mix they have in that box is really 120 + 15 for the life counter dice that are more of a bonus than anything.
While having all 5 original decks would have been nice, it then wouldn't be an anthology when going by definition, but that doesn't make you arguments have some weight, and a good amount of it at that.
This was definitely overprice, for a bundle at least. The decks coming to $140 and the counters being $20 total (at best) this thing was literally on spot for MSRP, but normally bundles are cheaper, this and Planechase: Anthologies have that same issue. They could have put this at $125-$135 and would definitely feel far more appropriate for this product. Sure, you get foil versions of cards that didn't have them before, minus Kaalia, but really there isn't much here to offer.
I believe they should have waited another few years to do something like this, then we could have gotten like Kaalia, Atraxa, and whatever else may have come out or been out that was hugely popular or hard to get a hold of. Right now three of four years are still rather easy to get.
The anthology should have been the original decks, not one from each year because the later years were reprinted to death. And I'm not saying this like the idea of the anthology with that mindset is wrong, just that Wizards marketing has a bad habit of constantly over-pricing their box sets these last couple of releases and making players and stores pay for it. 160 would have been the price if all four were Gen 1. The mix they have in that box is really 120 + 15 for the life counter dice that are more of a bonus than anything.
While having all 5 original decks would have been nice, it then wouldn't be an anthology when going by definition, but that doesn't make you arguments have some weight, and a good amount of it at that.
This was definitely overprice, for a bundle at least. The decks coming to $140 and the counters being $20 total (at best) this thing was literally on spot for MSRP, but normally bundles are cheaper, this and Planechase: Anthologies have that same issue. They could have put this at $125-$135 and would definitely feel far more appropriate for this product. Sure, you get foil versions of cards that didn't have them before, minus Kaalia, but really there isn't much here to offer.
I believe they should have waited another few years to do something like this, then we could have gotten like Kaalia, Atraxa, and whatever else may have come out or been out that was hugely popular or hard to get a hold of. Right now three of four years are still rather easy to get.
It's largely decisions like these that are making people lose faith the company knows what they are doing with the game. Standard balancing problems only hit those communities, but products like these that are meant to make the game more accessible in the long run have to carry better value than they are for people who play the game already, because new players aren't going to put down 160 dollars on a game they know nothing about unless they want to be a big risk taker. I got no idea what their stockholders think of this mess the company has put itself into, but it can't be anything good and the stockholder meetings must be rather odd ball affairs.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I'm sure the next Commander Anthology will do this exact thing again. No point in printing all 5 originals when you can go to that well every other year in a specialty release. They can do this exact thing 4 more times (one deck from each of the first 4 sets), and if people buy this stuff, I can't blame them if they do.
Personally I have all 25 Commander decks, but I would like the foil commanders, though I have a Kaalia from the Commander's Arsenal.
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I got zero problems with goyf getting printed to death and back. The intent is we play and collect cards: 50+ and even 30+ dollar cards do not promote playing the game. It does greatly boost the card framing industry though. Buy a good frame, get a future sight goyf, and Mount that sucker on your gaming room wall for some bling.
It will fit right in with the graded dual lands and original Aladdin's Ring.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
However, nonetheless, while it does contradict itself (2b --> 3) that is actually how it has played out with multiple products in the past. So, feel free to conclude for yourself why it continues to happen because I cannot understand it either. I suppose, the only logical explanation I can identify is that there are more people buying the product that are ignorant to its contents and the availability on the secondary market than there are of educated buyers such as those on this forum.
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You're being overly defensive. Ignorant doesn't have to be taken as an insult. As in this case, I was using ignorant to describe the fact that they don't show the contents of the preconstructed Commander decks on the box. Soooooo, unless you're looking it up online, you would be ignorant to the contents.
Then, as an extension, if you don't know what's in the box it would be difficult to know that you can purchase the individual cards that you desire on the secondary market for far less than purchasing this box.
Basically, I was describing the average consumer...
Good god, calm down.
If you post something that is incorrect, there's a chance I'll respond to it. I do it to try and help you gain perspective, not because I'm mad.
http://wpn.wizards.com/en/article/commander-anthology-unboxing
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
This. Some of these decks I have/had 2 of...but I wanna buy it just cuz of how pretty it is.
Will be interesting to see if WOTC will flood the market with tons of boxes like how they did with Planechase Anthology. But at the moment with 3 of the commanders being regular size foil for the 1st time, the value is there.
I think the problem with planechase wasn't just that they flooded the market, but that nobody cares about planechase. Commander is hugely popular and people would probably love to see the shelves flooded with these things.
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
So yeah, scalpers are at it again. At least it's not as bad as that NES Classic disaster. But pretty much anything with Kaalia in it is guaranteed to be scalper bait. I don't like sounding pessimistic, but watch as she's revealed to be in Iconic Masters and suddenly your LGS has a mysterious shortage of IMA boxes.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Not that you're wrong about Nixon and the $, but I doubt there's enough gold on Earth, let alone in America, to back the amount of paper money now in circulation.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Anyhow, what's done is done, and we have what we have. I don't think its a bad combination of decks, well, at least 3 of the 4 anyway (though 2013 was a bit of an odd year).
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
While having all 5 original decks would have been nice, it then wouldn't be an anthology when going by definition, but that doesn't make you arguments have some weight, and a good amount of it at that.
This was definitely overprice, for a bundle at least. The decks coming to $140 and the counters being $20 total (at best) this thing was literally on spot for MSRP, but normally bundles are cheaper, this and Planechase: Anthologies have that same issue. They could have put this at $125-$135 and would definitely feel far more appropriate for this product. Sure, you get foil versions of cards that didn't have them before, minus Kaalia, but really there isn't much here to offer.
I believe they should have waited another few years to do something like this, then we could have gotten like Kaalia, Atraxa, and whatever else may have come out or been out that was hugely popular or hard to get a hold of. Right now three of four years are still rather easy to get.
It's largely decisions like these that are making people lose faith the company knows what they are doing with the game. Standard balancing problems only hit those communities, but products like these that are meant to make the game more accessible in the long run have to carry better value than they are for people who play the game already, because new players aren't going to put down 160 dollars on a game they know nothing about unless they want to be a big risk taker. I got no idea what their stockholders think of this mess the company has put itself into, but it can't be anything good and the stockholder meetings must be rather odd ball affairs.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Personally I have all 25 Commander decks, but I would like the foil commanders, though I have a Kaalia from the Commander's Arsenal.