Well acording to the latest Magic story it has been three months since their "defeat" of Emrakul. Not sure how long it was between Zendikar and Innistrad. So the Gatewatch has been around for a little bit of time. Enough time the stories of their existence and victories to have been heard by other planeswalkers out there.
Unles the gatewatch did some self advertisement on their own, there is no way for others to know that it was a doing of the group. The only possibility is that tamiyo spread their stories, since she was the only non-gatewatch, non-enemy, non-stoned planeswalker involved that know about the gatewatch as a group that protect the peace of the planes.
Well after reading the rest of the story, that is exactly what happened. Tamiyo is out passing on the word of the Gatewatch to other Planeswalkers at Jace's request. So the rumours of them is spreading.
"I was saying," Jace said, with exaggerated patience, "that I've put word out through Tamiyo that the Gatewatch is ready to help. She and other Planeswalkers pass information to each other. They collect news and stories in their travels. The way bards work, but they carry word from other planes instead of the next town over."
Also I have to agree, Dovin feels either mono-U or UW. He is tied with the Consul the controlling forces, which makes me feel more UW.
While Saheeli will probably be UR and either tied with the Renegade movement, or just be there to make the best artifacts she can with no ties to either side.
His abilities sound U or WU but his clothing is all red and along with his eyes the thopters? glowing red makes me think he might be UWR, but not too sure.
That is a lot of red in his art. He's clearly going to be red aligned. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up mono-red.
C'mon guys. We should all know by now that the color of the art often doesn't say anything about the color of the card.
Some examples off the top of my head:
-Look at the original art for Ajani Vengeant. The only red is the blood on his axe. Meanwhile, there's quite a bit of green and even some blue.
-When we first got the art for Elspeth Tirel, the whole picture was tinted green, compared to the color balance the art on the actual card had.
-Speaking of Elspeth, her Sun's Champion art had a lot of blue in it; she was even standing in front of an Island. Surely that means she must be white/blue!
-The red lightning in Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas's art.
I think we just got a hint today about Baan's color identity, via the Daily Update.
"Along with the release of today's Magic Story, "Homesick," we also released a Planeswalker Profile of Dovin Baan, a new Planeswalker from Kaladesh. A very, very blue Planeswalker from Kaladesh"
I think he might be mono-blue.
Also, the next bit, that talked about Saheeli and her UR color identity was a it...questioning? They may have just made her UR for the game. Maybe.
We cannot confirm Saheeli as anything except present (and she might not even appear as a card until Revolt).
When has the face of an expansion ever not been present in that set? The only thing we really can confirm right now is that Saheeli will be in Kaladesh. Chandra could very well be absent until the Aether Revolt though.
I think we just got a hint today about Baan's color identity, via the Daily Update.
"Along with the release of today's Magic Story, "Homesick," we also released a Planeswalker Profile of Dovin Baan, a new Planeswalker from Kaladesh. A very, very blue Planeswalker from Kaladesh"
I think he might be mono-blue.
It's possible, but I guess they're talking about his skin color.
My question is this: would Wizards print two blue (or any color) aligned planewalkers in a given set? Saheeli is the face of Kaladesh so she is in and very likely blue aligned (I personally feel UR) and Dovin is going to be blue aligned (unless he is mono-white, which doesn't feel right). I think Dovin and Chandra both will be in Aether Revolt, with Saheeli, Nissa, and someone else (Lili?) in Kaladesh.
Based on Wizard's description of Dovin, he is likely mono U (unless they were referring to his skin when they mentioned that he was a very, very blue planeswalker)
It's also possible that Dovin shows up in the planeswalker deck, but his proper planeswalker card is in aether. I can't see Saheeli not getting a PW card in Kaladesh would be incredibly poor branding. She was literally the first thing we saw when they announced Kaladesh as the next set
His abilities sound U or WU but his clothing is all red and along with his eyes the thopters? glowing red makes me think he might be UWR, but not too sure.
That is a lot of red in his art. He's clearly going to be red aligned. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up mono-red.
C'mon guys. We should all know by now that the color of the art often doesn't say anything about the color of the card.
Some examples off the top of my head:
-Look at the original art for Ajani Vengeant. The only red is the blood on his axe. Meanwhile, there's quite a bit of green and even some blue.
-When we first got the art for Elspeth Tirel, the whole picture was tinted green, compared to the color balance the art on the actual card had.
-Speaking of Elspeth, her Sun's Champion art had a lot of blue in it; she was even standing in front of an Island. Surely that means she must be white/blue!
-The red lightning in Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas's art.
Which is why I was saying the red in his eyes and on the artifact was what was making me question that. It makes looks like his magic is red colored.
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The story seems to make it very clear that Baan is UW at least. There is almost no way that Baan is actually Red-colored, barring a Jekyll and Hyde type scenario.
This seems very interesting, as the story today implies that Chandra and Liliana are going to Kaladesh to mess the Fair up.
We cannot confirm Saheeli as anything except present (and she might not even appear as a card until Revolt).
When has the face of an expansion ever not been present in that set? The only thing we really can confirm right now is that Saheeli will be in Kaladesh. Chandra could very well be absent until the Aether Revolt though.
It's also possible that Dovin shows up in the planeswalker deck, but his proper planeswalker card is in aether. I can't see Saheeli not getting a PW card in Kaladesh would be incredibly poor branding. She was literally the first thing we saw when they announced Kaladesh as the next set
I'll agree that it is incredibly likely that she's in Kaladesh, and that it would be foolish for her to not be printed as a card there. However, I'm still going to stick to my guns over the use of the word "confirm". She is not confirmed to be in the set. WOTC breaks their own rules all the time, and that one's a guideline at best. I wouldn't have said anything if the poster had said "Saheeli confirmed in Kaladesh", but again, here's what I'm contesting:
Her color is speculation at best, and here in the rumor mill the word confirmed needs to maintain a clear definition. If you can confirm something, you have a source from WOTC, be it a leaked image, a conversation with someone at a printing plant, a stolen card, or an art description.
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Gods in a bucket, what business could the stinking Gatewatch possibly have on Kaladesh? They're seriously just security guards for some planeswalking event planner to hire? We have to have the Gatewatch, because otherwise Rojmort the Devastator will destroy the plane or something stupid. The set looks to have plenty of its own flavor without reusing the same characters again and again. This feels entirely forced.
What Dovin's getting is a revolt led by Chandra. This is going to be interesting, because everything points to the female PWs (and that's a bit of unfortunate work there) are going to turn Kaladesh upside down.
IOW, the Gatewatch is very like to be the 'bad guys' of this block, at least from the Consulate's perspective.
I agree that confirming her as W/U is a mistake especially when there is actual evidence that she is U/R. I just think the suggestion of she won't show up until Aether Revolt is so unlike as not to even be considered a possibility at this time. Going back to original Innistrad, when a character is featured on Box Art they have a card in the set, a planeswalker card or a legendary creature card, the only exception is Journey into Nyx which has the two characters featured on the previous two sets facing off.
I would say by logic and commen sense Saheeli is pretty much confirmed for Kaladesh.
Title: New Planeswalker Dovin Baan Vedalken confirmed for Kaladesh
What makes you sure, that he is "confirmed" to appear in KLD?
The image we got is in Wide-Format so it is any kind of spell or creature.
In addition, with Saheeli propably being UR, Chandra being R and any kind of Vedalken at least being any kind of U, I have a real hard time to imagine the world is only UR.
Actually I forgot the comma in the thread title. It should say New Planeswalker Dovin Baan, Vedalken confirmed for Kaladesh, As in Vedalken as a race are confirmed to be on Kaladesh. that was my error in rushing. I did say in the OP that it Probably means two new planeswalkers in Kaladesh but i wasn't stating it as a certainty.
Why do so many players always assume planeswalkers will be W? People talked about Arlinn Kord being WG or WRG even though werewolf colors were GR. It's not because they are a good guy in this particular story that they will be always be W, or that all bad guys are B.
Puzzle Quest has Saheeli in UR.
I don't think we'll get 2 planeswalkers in the same color pair at any point in standard with the new block structure. If I am correct, the following color pairs should be open come rotation:
Considering his short biography we can assume him to be a artifact-centered UR walker, assuming Chandra present and mono R we can confirm Saheeli as UW with the 2 last spot for a G and a B PW (or any comination with that colors)
Story said that Liliana went with Chandra. So black is possibly covered.
Considering his short biography we can assume him to be a artifact-centered UR walker, assuming Chandra present and mono R we can confirm Saheeli as UW with the 2 last spot for a G and a B PW (or any comination with that colors)
Story said that Liliana went with Chandra. So black is possibly covered.
While true, I expect Lili to play support for Chandra if anything, represented in flavor texts and card arts, but no card herself given how close this is to Moon. tbh, I see Lili walking to Kaladesh with Chandra then ditching her to resume her demon hunt and not being an influence at all, opening the door for another mono-black or B/x walker (UB Tezzeret in Revolt? Yes please)
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Evrything about his biography points to mono-U. UR is more the "crazed inventor" color pair, like Doc Brown or Izzet weirdos, while he's described as purely analytical and to-the-point.
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Well after reading the rest of the story, that is exactly what happened. Tamiyo is out passing on the word of the Gatewatch to other Planeswalkers at Jace's request. So the rumours of them is spreading.
Extract from Magic Story - Homesick:
Also I have to agree, Dovin feels either mono-U or UW. He is tied with the Consul the controlling forces, which makes me feel more UW.
While Saheeli will probably be UR and either tied with the Renegade movement, or just be there to make the best artifacts she can with no ties to either side.
C'mon guys. We should all know by now that the color of the art often doesn't say anything about the color of the card.
Some examples off the top of my head:
-Look at the original art for Ajani Vengeant. The only red is the blood on his axe. Meanwhile, there's quite a bit of green and even some blue.
-When we first got the art for Elspeth Tirel, the whole picture was tinted green, compared to the color balance the art on the actual card had.
-Speaking of Elspeth, her Sun's Champion art had a lot of blue in it; she was even standing in front of an Island. Surely that means she must be white/blue!
-The red lightning in Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas's art.
"Along with the release of today's Magic Story, "Homesick," we also released a Planeswalker Profile of Dovin Baan, a new Planeswalker from Kaladesh. A very, very blue Planeswalker from Kaladesh"
I think he might be mono-blue.
Also, the next bit, that talked about Saheeli and her UR color identity was a it...questioning? They may have just made her UR for the game. Maybe.
When has the face of an expansion ever not been present in that set? The only thing we really can confirm right now is that Saheeli will be in Kaladesh. Chandra could very well be absent until the Aether Revolt though.
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It's possible, but I guess they're talking about his skin color.
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Based on Wizard's description of Dovin, he is likely mono U (unless they were referring to his skin when they mentioned that he was a very, very blue planeswalker)
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Which is why I was saying the red in his eyes and on the artifact was what was making me question that. It makes looks like his magic is red colored.
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This seems very interesting, as the story today implies that Chandra and Liliana are going to Kaladesh to mess the Fair up.
I'll agree that it is incredibly likely that she's in Kaladesh, and that it would be foolish for her to not be printed as a card there. However, I'm still going to stick to my guns over the use of the word "confirm". She is not confirmed to be in the set. WOTC breaks their own rules all the time, and that one's a guideline at best. I wouldn't have said anything if the poster had said "Saheeli confirmed in Kaladesh", but again, here's what I'm contesting:
Her color is speculation at best, and here in the rumor mill the word confirmed needs to maintain a clear definition. If you can confirm something, you have a source from WOTC, be it a leaked image, a conversation with someone at a printing plant, a stolen card, or an art description.
Yes, it's a completely pedantic stance to take. No, I don't care.
I hope they are. Goblins are so boring, it'd be nice to go another year without them.
edit: I should say "six months" I guess, but I'll stick with "a year" or even "forever".
Also, this Vedalken dude doesn't read Red at all. Remember the debate over that Conspiracy planeswalker? (edit: Kaya) Same thing.
Shards of awful never
Oh well... Dovin looks like a cool character.
Wait, what happened to four-armed Vedalken? What are you trying to pull, Wizards?
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What Dovin's getting is a revolt led by Chandra. This is going to be interesting, because everything points to the female PWs (and that's a bit of unfortunate work there) are going to turn Kaladesh upside down.
IOW, the Gatewatch is very like to be the 'bad guys' of this block, at least from the Consulate's perspective.
They still have four arms on Mirrodin/New Phyrexia. The only one I can find with four arms that isn't from there has the creature type Mutant.
I would say by logic and commen sense Saheeli is pretty much confirmed for Kaladesh.
Actually I forgot the comma in the thread title. It should say New Planeswalker Dovin Baan, Vedalken confirmed for Kaladesh, As in Vedalken as a race are confirmed to be on Kaladesh. that was my error in rushing. I did say in the OP that it Probably means two new planeswalkers in Kaladesh but i wasn't stating it as a certainty.
For saheeli W is one of them if a second either U or R
I think Wizards is retelling the Mercadian Masques set with Gatewatch, artifice and Kaladesh.
Puzzle Quest has Saheeli in UR.
I don't think we'll get 2 planeswalkers in the same color pair at any point in standard with the new block structure. If I am correct, the following color pairs should be open come rotation:
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WU Surprise! It's not UW Control! (UW Midrange) UW
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RG Rabble! Rabble! (GR Blood Moon Aggro) GR
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Story said that Liliana went with Chandra. So black is possibly covered.
While true, I expect Lili to play support for Chandra if anything, represented in flavor texts and card arts, but no card herself given how close this is to Moon. tbh, I see Lili walking to Kaladesh with Chandra then ditching her to resume her demon hunt and not being an influence at all, opening the door for another mono-black or B/x walker (UB Tezzeret in Revolt? Yes please)
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