Saheeli's Artistry - 4UU
Sorcery (Rare)
Choose one or both —
* Create a token that's a copy of target artifact.
* Create a token that's a copy of target creature, except that it's an artifact in addition to its other types. "From the first touch, I know exactly what the metal wants to be."
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Can't wait for them to reveal Saheeli's pet, the Wurmcoil Kitty.
When Saheeli's Kitty dies put a 1/1 flea creature token with bloodsuck and a 1/1 flea creature token with itchytouch onto the battlefield.
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If I'm understanding this correctly, then you can target an Artifact Creature twice. If you can do that, then for me this says "Create two tokens that are a copy of target Blightsteel Colossus" (BTW, I am an EDH player that has lost all his friends for obvious reasons. >:D)
That is a powerful card 6 mana for two artifact clones? That is nuts and a must need in most artifact decks. Also I think we can safely say Saheeli will be latest blue and looks likely she is also going to artifact based/themed.
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If I'm understanding this correctly, then you can target an Artifact Creature twice. If you can do that, then for me this says "Create two tokens that are a copy of target Blightsteel Colossus" (BTW, I am an EDH player that has lost all his friends for obvious reasons. >:D)
Yes, you can do that since there are two instances of the word target and neither line says "...another..." so the same artifact creature can be the target for both choices. Blightsteels at everyone
Regarding the card: I just put together a Sydri, Galvanic Genius EDH deck so this is definitely finding a spot in the list. It is just too good and can lead to some blowouts.
glad to see a spoiler. unfortunately, it doesn't add any more information than what we already suspected, but rather confirmed two things. Saheeli will be at least partially blue, and will deal with artifacts. however, it does nothing to clear up what the other color might be, and I doubt she will be mono blue, as they already did the mono blue artifact walker in tezzeret. still overall, I like the card, and happy for spoilers
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Can't wait for Kaladesh, it looks like the first set that has peeked my interest in a long while. Card looks great, art is fantastic, and Saheeli is looking badass!
I have a friend who is going to love this. His Grand Architect deck will be even more annoying now
Rules question. Do you have to use the choices in the order they are bulleted? Or can you make a token of a creature and then make another creature out of it since it is now an artifact?
Rules question. Do you have to use the choices in the order they are bulleted? Or can you make a token of a creature and then make another creature out of it since it is now an artifact?
I believe you can choose the effects in any order. However, as they are part of the same spell, the tokens will not be created until the spell resolves so you can't target a token also being created with the same copy of Saheeli's Artistry because it does not yet exist.
That being said, I'm not a judge, so if I am wrong I stand to be corrected.
Quick, someone do the number crunch! I must know how many artifacts there are!
I'm definitely no number-crunching expert, and I'm probably doing this wrong, but a quick and dirty review of the last large artifact heavy set with mythics was Scars of Mirrodin. The first "S" card in that is Scrapdiver Serpent @ 41/249. Stretching that to 264 = 43; "Saheeli" would come before "Scrap" and should be < 43, so this downward shift implies less artifacts than Som? Perhaps colored artifacts?
Rules question. Do you have to use the choices in the order they are bulleted? Or can you make a token of a creature and then make another creature out of it since it is now an artifact?
I believe you can choose the effects in any order. However, as they are part of the same spell, the tokens will not be created until the spell resolves so you can't target a token also being created with the same copy of Saheeli's Artistry because it does not yet exist.
That being said, I'm not a judge, so if I am wrong I stand to be corrected.
Pretty much right, but I want to point out that for any modal spell that lets you pick more than one option, you perform the actions in the order listed. So you'll always make a copy of the artifact first, then the creature. Except for a few corner cases, that won't ever matter, but its how it goes (the example I can think of off the top of my head is that if you make a copy of an artifact doubling season, it'll affect how many tokens the second ability will make). But your reasoning for why you can't target the token you'll be making is spot on, even if it was made first.
The expansion symbol looks gorgeous on the watermark, but kind of terrible on the rarity marker. Just feels like there's too much detail, such that the black borders end up taking up too much space relative to the actual symbol. It irritates me more than it ought to.
Quick, someone do the number crunch! I must know how many artifacts there are!
I'm definitely no number-crunching expert, and I'm probably doing this wrong, but a quick and dirty review of the last large artifact heavy set with mythics was Scars of Mirrodin. The first "S" card in that is Scrapdiver Serpent @ 41/249. Stretching that to 264 = 43; "Saheeli" would come before "Scrap" and should be < 43, so this downward shift implies less artifacts than Som? Perhaps colored artifacts?
Well, Scars was more than 1/3 artifacts (about 35%), which is an awful lot. Besides, less than that would make sense: Mirrodin's the "artifact plane," while Kaladesh just has it as a theme.
Based on my own very-rudimentary number crunching (including somewhat-arbitrarily assigning 22 combined slots to multicolored and land cards), Kaladesh probably has somewhere between 50 and 70 colorless artifacts, bar Devoid-style gimmicks that muck with the numbering. Which is still quite a lot, considering that there are only 42 Artifact cards combined in BFZ and SOI blocks (80 in current Standard as a whole).
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Saheeli's Artistry - 4UU
Sorcery (Rare)
Choose one or both —
* Create a token that's a copy of target artifact.
* Create a token that's a copy of target creature, except that it's an artifact in addition to its other types.
"From the first touch, I know exactly what the metal wants to be."
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Come to think of it, I think Stolen Identity is going to be a lot better a good amount of the time.
And this one is a doozy a artifact and a creature cloner.
No one is going to resist cloning Akroma's Memorial with this and get a creature with it
Most particual with that a eldrazi.
When Saheeli's Kitty dies put a 1/1 flea creature token with bloodsuck and a 1/1 flea creature token with itchytouch onto the battlefield.
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With Kaladesh.
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They're changing it as of Kaladesh, specifically effects that create for tokens.
A surprising number of players think that you need to have the token card in your hand for some reason.
Regarding the card: I just put together a Sydri, Galvanic Genius EDH deck so this is definitely finding a spot in the list. It is just too good and can lead to some blowouts.
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Modern:
RG Titanshift. A deck made of cards too stupid for EDH.
Retired: Lots. More than I feel you should suffer through or I should type out.
But none of the spells that bear Nahiri's name are blue,
so the chances of Saheeli being at least part blue are quite high.
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EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
I thought she was already confirmed to be UR, or is this person not the new Planeswalker?
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Rules question. Do you have to use the choices in the order they are bulleted? Or can you make a token of a creature and then make another creature out of it since it is now an artifact?
I believe you can choose the effects in any order. However, as they are part of the same spell, the tokens will not be created until the spell resolves so you can't target a token also being created with the same copy of Saheeli's Artistry because it does not yet exist.
That being said, I'm not a judge, so if I am wrong I stand to be corrected.
Quick, someone do the number crunch! I must know how many artifacts there are!
I'm definitely no number-crunching expert, and I'm probably doing this wrong, but a quick and dirty review of the last large artifact heavy set with mythics was Scars of Mirrodin. The first "S" card in that is Scrapdiver Serpent @ 41/249. Stretching that to 264 = 43; "Saheeli" would come before "Scrap" and should be < 43, so this downward shift implies less artifacts than Som? Perhaps colored artifacts?
On the wizards community forums (which no longer exist) You Make the Card subforum, "create" tokens was the accepted wording for YEARS.
A lot of those people still post on the You Make the Card subforum at nogoblinsallowed.com
Well, Scars was more than 1/3 artifacts (about 35%), which is an awful lot. Besides, less than that would make sense: Mirrodin's the "artifact plane," while Kaladesh just has it as a theme.
Based on my own very-rudimentary number crunching (including somewhat-arbitrarily assigning 22 combined slots to multicolored and land cards), Kaladesh probably has somewhere between 50 and 70 colorless artifacts, bar Devoid-style gimmicks that muck with the numbering. Which is still quite a lot, considering that there are only 42 Artifact cards combined in BFZ and SOI blocks (80 in current Standard as a whole).