MTG Salvation

From wizards.com:

Ishkanah, Grafwidow 4G
Legendary Creature - Spider
Reach
Delirium - When ~ enters the battlefield, if there are four or more card types among cards in your graveyard, put three 1/2 green Spider creature tokens with reach onto the battlefield.
6B: Target opponent loses 1 life for each Spider you control.
3/5

Hm for now I call it okay.
I want more Spider cards before I can tell more. Specially cards that make more spider tokens.

Also the black colored ability is interesting, because there aren't much black spider yet?

Cool, legendary spider. I'm a fan of the creature type and this looks like a fun lord in good colors. I may be brewing up a new EDH deck soon.

This seems too weak for constructed while simultaneously not being exciting enough for me to get interested in it in Commander (though I am sure that many people would love to play this in Commander simply because it is a tribal legendary creature).

Welp, there's your Legendary Spider for all you people what wanted to play Spider Tribal EDH.

I just feel this is here to scratch a casual player's itch though.

Quote from Hanmac »

Also the black colored ability is interesting, because there aren't much black spider yet?

I was convinced that we`d seen several G/B spiders before, so I did a search, and I only came up with:

Nyx Weaver
Graverobber Spider

So this is the third spider that dabbles in black. That said, they are all recent.

I like this card. The payoff is real and spiders are cool.

This set is becoming Wizard's response to commander players:

1. Legendary werewolf --- DONE
2. Legendary spider --- DONE

What this set is not is a place where reprint some modern needed staples:

• Liliana of the veil
• Cavern of souls

Quote from Hanmac »

Hm for now I call it okay.
I want more Spider cards before I can tell more. Specially cards that make more spider tokens.

Also the black colored ability is interesting, because there aren't much black spider yet?

Innistrad spiders are black-related, it seems.

A legendary spider is also something new, though it probably did not have to be mythic.

Prepare for the inevitable: "Why we have a legendary spider and not a [flavortext character XY] legendary card :)" ?

With Delirium active, this provides 6/11 worth of stats spread across 4 bodies for 5 mana. That's great value for pretty much every format.

The activated ability I'm slightly less appreciative of, though. I'm not sure how many spiders are there in SOI-EMN limited for it to be valid and I don't think there's any competitive Spiders in Standard that would justify this (because this doesn't quite justify other spiders by itself). In EDH, there are a lot more options, of course, but even then I still feel paying 6B and affecting only 1 opponent seems awfully little in the multiplayer format. Sure, you can cause a lot of life loss if you really control a lot of Spiders, but I daresay the likes Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord would be a vastly better choice most of the time (outside of that 1 niche of Spider Tribal)... the sacrifice doesn't really matter most of the time to decks, anyway.

That's a lot of fussing (and I feel a little bad about it) for the Legendary Spider some people have been waiting for, and especially after the whole Werewolf fiasco, but I'm trying to analyze the card without just hyping into it and while it's factually still better than the likes of Ulrich as a Tribal card in EDH, it doesn't particularly impresses either, at least in my opinion.

Obvious spider tribal for EDH is obvious.

Not the worse or useless card for Standard at least. 6/11 power across four creatures isn't bad. Probably will see very fringe play if fliers become a thing, especially if we see a bunch of thopters next block.

Looks meh as hell. A mythic that requires delirium to make spiderlings... SMH...

Hornet Queen would have been mythic then.

That said though, good that junk like these are mythic. Better chance we get chase cards at rare than mythic.

It's not Lady of Videns.
*sigh*

So much negativity in this thread. Its great for spider tribal in commander, I am glad it exists it is something that needed to exist.

It's at a perfectly good rate for standard especially with so many angels flying around and the major wrath being languish that this lives through. I rate this likely standard playable, but depends on if the delirium deck can work which it hasn't so far.

What you want from this set?

Also same mana cost as spider spawning and the ability is the same cost as the flashback on it.. that call back.

Quote from StonerOfKruphix »

there's no way in a EDH Multiplayer game you're going to tap 7 to dome your opponents for 3-5 life (unless you got a spider spawning going, but that's another story).

I'm pretty sure that such is /precisely/ the "story" this card was created to inhabit.

Not sure exactly why this is mythic when Hornet Queen was much stronger. Sure you get 6 power and 11 toughness on the board, but it isn't all that threatening. Could have at least be a 4/5, I don't know.

does not feel mythic, but otherwise fine.

Quote from Dontrike »

Not sure exactly why this is mythic when Hornet Queen was much stronger. Sure you get 6 power and 11 toughness on the board, but it isn't all that threatening. Could have at least be a 4/5, I don't know.

Yeah, but Hornet Queen was absurd.

I'm glad they finally made a legendary spider, but I have been waiting for a Naya one. I know people love Spider Spawning, but I'd rather be able to play Dragonlair Spider and Ancient Spider in an EDH tribal deck. I'm not surprised on the color identity since we are Innistrad. I'll just settle for being happy for other people. Hopefully the next legendary spider won't take so long.

Man all that rabbling for a legendary spider and the one they give is so unbelievably...meh.

I like that most Mythic are some flavour Legendary cards instead of Auto 4-off tournament Staples. Hopefully we will get the good cards at Rare.

Quote from Gutterstorm »

Man all that rabbling for a legendary spider and the one they give is so unbelievably...meh.

You mean The Amazing Spidermeh? hahahaha

Well we got our Spider Legend, just wished it was better feels like another Ulrich...well not bad as Ulrich but this card doesn't feel strong enough and sorry people we do like tribal cards but us EDH players like strong cards aswell this Spider doesn't feel strong.

I wished there were reliable ways to produce spdier tokens but is only enetrs the abttlefield and only if theres delirium... also that activated abiltiy is costly and only effects 1 players

Comeon they enrfed this card aswelll god dammit

Could work well With Eldrazi Displacer for token recursion. Little slow tho.

" Tucao:
1, after the bees that you can slag slag Missy?
2, this must be added if the Missi bout started, you can put three.
3, or give you control spider + 1 / + 1 and has deathtouch. This card is a rare head, she gave him a position Missy! Bad review."

This is a quote from the spoiler article that spoiled Ish-Kan-Ah. Google translate please

Ehhhhhh, the delerium trigger iss easy enough but that activated ability is a bit costly