Ok so she's bant... the same color's that had the Investigate mechanic in SOI... hmmmm and shes kind of an Investigator... So....... makes sense to me.
I have a great idea how this card could have been better. Add random tentacles everywhere and apply a purple tint. ''Planeswalker - Tamiyo'' should read as ''Planeswalker - Tamiyo Eldrazi Horror''. Wotc should hire me.
Eldrazi feed on salt just like everything else.
As to the actual card, I too am having a hard time seeing her as green, and I hardly buy "well she studies the natural world" as an excuse, as that is a blue behavior. White I could sort of see based on her actions in the recent story...
though thank god she doesn't join the jacetus league
I wish she had. Would have made her more likely to pop up in future stuff. As it is I think we will be lucky to see her in the next five years.
I have a great idea how this card could have been better. Add random tentacles everywhere and apply a purple tint. ''Planeswalker - Tamiyo'' should read as ''Planeswalker - Tamiyo Eldrazi Horror''. Wotc should hire me.
Eldrazi feed on salt just like everything else.
As to the actual card, I too am having a hard time seeing her as green, and I hardly buy "well she studies the natural world" as an excuse, as that is a blue behavior. White I could sort of see based on her actions in the recent story...
though thank god she doesn't join the jacetus league
I wish she had. Would have made her more likely to pop up in future stuff. As it is I think we will be lucky to see her in the next five years.
Well Tamiyo fills a nice role that the other walkers dont, its the "geeky" girl, while jace is the geeky dude.
Tamiyo would do a good impression on the female geeky member the gatewatch, especially as shes not human, which makes it more interesting for an audience (as Kiora is kinda out of the picture now).
I just think that a more non-combat focused member would still be nice. Someone who is support but still critical to the Gatewatch seems fine to me. And she'd be a huge boon, even if it was just on information gathering and the like. I just kind of wonder if we will wind up seeing her again, will be massively disappointed if we don't.
The default planeswalker number for any given block is 5 (for developmental reasons), last block we had 4, so there was only room for one more, development's condition for it to be printed at all was that it should be something narrow enough so it wouldn't cause developmental problems, all of the abilities make sense being UG, UW or Bant, her flavor too, so they choose to make it bant in order for development to even let it through.
In what universe? If you build a deck like that, and ever draw that hand, I will personally come to wherever you live, perform complicated acts of awestruck ********, then disembowel myself to escape the world that allowed something like this to occur and validate you.
I have a great idea how this card could have been better. Add random tentacles everywhere and apply a purple tint. ''Planeswalker - Tamiyo'' should read as ''Planeswalker - Tamiyo Eldrazi Horror''. Wotc should hire me.
Eldrazi feed on salt just like everything else.
As to the actual card, I too am having a hard time seeing her as green, and I hardly buy "well she studies the natural world" as an excuse, as that is a blue behavior. White I could sort of see based on her actions in the recent story...
though thank god she doesn't join the jacetus league
I wish she had. Would have made her more likely to pop up in future stuff. As it is I think we will be lucky to see her in the next five years.
Well Tamiyo fills a nice role that the other walkers dont, its the "geeky" girl, while jace is the geeky dude.
Tamiyo would do a good impression on the female geeky member the gatewatch, especially as shes not human, which makes it more interesting for an audience (as Kiora is kinda out of the picture now).
Jace is not geeky: Jace is an idiot.
There is a very wide gap between "Jace as Wizards wants him to be perceived" and "Jace as h behaves in the story." He has wiped him own memory, multiple times. In one case, Jace wipes his own memory so that Lazav can't get information from him for ransom, when he comes too, he starts investige ting to relearn the informatio so the ransom isn't executed. His status as the Guild pact is a total accident, a duty which he wholly neglects and abandons.
At one point in the story he reassures his companion that they are "better looking" than there enemies. Later, he bites Ruric Thar's ankles.
All canon. All, literally canon.
Not to mention he frequently tly ends up in situations where he would die were it not for his plot armor. He has constantly slipped up so bad that he is about to die.
The default planeswalker number for any given block is 5 (for developmental reasons), last block we had 4, so there was only room for one more, development's condition for it to be printed at all was that it should be something narrow enough so it wouldn't cause developmental problems, all of the abilities make sense being UG, UW or Bant, her flavor too, so they choose to make it bant in order for development to even let it through.
How would it be too good in UW? Are there any Standard decks that play blue that aren't Bant?
The default planeswalker number for any given block is 5 (for developmental reasons), last block we had 4, so there was only room for one more, development's condition for it to be printed at all was that it should be something narrow enough so it wouldn't cause developmental problems, all of the abilities make sense being UG, UW or Bant, her flavor too, so they choose to make it bant in order for development to even let it through.
This. The amount of complaining about this card is ridiculous. Combat-based card draw is partially G, and this PW would have been busted with an easier casting cost.
Personally, I can't wait to build around her in Modern.
The default planeswalker number for any given block is 5 (for developmental reasons), last block we had 4, so there was only room for one more, development's condition for it to be printed at all was that it should be something narrow enough so it wouldn't cause developmental problems, all of the abilities make sense being UG, UW or Bant, her flavor too, so they choose to make it bant in order for development to even let it through.
This is not true.
BFZ had 5. Gideon, Kiora, Ob Nixilis, Nissa, Chandra.
The up tick in block numerous probably comes from a desire to maintain a consistent number of planeswalkers in standard.
See, the core set, alone used to have 5 or six walkers, and since the core set is no more, some of those walkers need to be distributed to the other sets to maintain the number in standard. If Eldrich Moon were a core set it would have a minimum 5 walkers. So they cut it to 2 and the other three needed a home. So one probably went to Oath, Small sets usually have just one. And another one went to Shadows. I wouldn't be shocked to see 4 in Kaladesh.
Planeswalker numbers are going WAY up anyway (I collect every printing). Starting with Kaladesh, each set will come with 2 more just in the intro packs, and sets like Conspiracy and commander generate new walkers as well.
Planeswalker numbers are going WAY up anyway (I collect every printing). Starting with Kaladesh, each set will come with 2 more just in the intro packs, and sets like Conspiracy and commander generate new walkers as well.
Nice to see someone else who collects 'em all I'm gonna need to find a new way to organize my binder come Kaladesh tho...
On-topic, I am stoked for Tamiyo. I was wondering if this block would have a 6th walker, and now I see how they managed it. If anyone, it would be Tamiyo, but being another blue walker, they wouldn't want her to step on Pajama Sam's Jace's toes. I was kind of expecting her to be WU, but it looks like she's getting the Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker treatment from M13. Basically, she has to be so narrow that only one deck will play her, if any. That way she doesn't push Jace out of the picture. It makes sense.
That said, I am in love with her design. The first ability is GU and ultra flavorful, the second ability is WU and really good, her last ability is bonkers and combos with her first ult, and she's actually competitively costed, unlike Sarkhan Unbroken. Not only that, but she checks off one of the eight remaining tricolor-walker boxes, which pleases me aesthetically.
All in all, I am excited to snag a copy when her price inevitably drops
Edit: Also, to those asking why she isn't just WU, I have a theory. It's probably because she'd be too flexible in only two colors, but maybe they also don't want her to take the WU mythic slot that may or may not be reserved for a Spirit-themed legendary creature. Keep in mind, we now have Olivia for Vamps, Sigarda for Humans, Geralf and Gisa for Zombz, and Ulrich for Werewolves. It's not unlikely that we'll see a Spirit legend here to complete the cycle.
The default planeswalker number for any given block is 5 (for developmental reasons), last block we had 4, so there was only room for one more, development's condition for it to be printed at all was that it should be something narrow enough so it wouldn't cause developmental problems, all of the abilities make sense being UG, UW or Bant, her flavor too, so they choose to make it bant in order for development to even let it through.
This is not true.
BFZ had 5. Gideon, Kiora, Ob Nixilis, Nissa, Chandra.
I think they meant set, SoI had 4, so for the whole block they only had room for one more walker.
The up tick in block numerous probably comes from a desire to maintain a consistent number of planeswalkers in standard. See, the core set, alone used to have 5 or six walkers, and since the core set is no more, some of those walkers need to be distributed to the other sets to maintain the number in standard.If Eldrich Moon were a core set it would have a minimum 5 walkers. So they cut it to 2 and the other three needed a home. So one probably went to Oath, Small sets usually have just one. And another one went to Shadows. I wouldn't be shocked to see 4 in Kaladesh.
Nope this isn't the case. The two block set already fixes the lack of corset walkers. Before normally we'd seen walkers spread out like this in a "magic year";
1st set of a block, large set: 3 walkers
2nd set of a block, small set: 1 walker
3rd set of a block, small set: 1 walker
Corset, large set: 5 walkers
Total: 10
Example: Scars of Mirrdon block and M12
Now it will look like this;
1st set of the first block of the year, large set: ~3 walkers
2nd set of the first block of the year, small set: ~2 walkers
1st set of the second block of the year, large set: ~3 walkers
2nd set of the second block of the year, small set: ~2 walkers
Total: 10
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Nope this isn't the case. The two block set already fixes the lack of corset walkers. Before normally we'd seen walkers spread out like this in a "magic year";
1st set of a block, large set: 3 walkers
2nd set of a block, small set: 1 walker
3rd set of a block, small set: 1 walker
Corset, large set: 5 walkers
Total: 10
Example: Scars of Mirrdon block and M12
Now it will look like this;
1st set of the first block of the year, large set: ~3 walkers
2nd set of the first block of the year, small set: ~2 walkers
1st set of the second block of the year, large set: ~3 walkers
2nd set of the second block of the year, small set: ~2 walkers
Total: 10
I think that is exactly the "uptick" Cephalopods is referring to. Each set in a block now has (on average) an additional walker to make up for the absence of the core set.
They also mentioned the new Planeswalker decks which add (If I'm doing my math right) 8 planeswalkers per year, although they aren't likely to be relevant to the standard headcount. Outside of standard there are also supplemental sets to consider.
Basically, all possible releases accounted for, we should be expecting 18+ planeswalkers a year overall. That's ~23 in standard at one time.
Edit: It turns out I can't do math. It's 27 in standard, not 23. (6 standard booster sets = 15, 6 sets of planeswalker decks = 12, total = 27)
Heliod wasn't really the focus though, and I don't know Konda. Meanwhile Nahiri's bad-ness seems to come more fro her Red tantrum, and while Sorin's shown a tyrannical side, it's still too much in the "Aloof Dictator" side to be a outright villain.
What's more, Sorin will likely be mono B, or even BR when we see him again.
What is this based on?
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My bad, what 5colors said is correct, I meant each block must have 5 walkers total, SOI had 4 so EDM having 2 more would make a total of 6 planeswalkers in this block, so one of them have to be narrow so it's impact wasn't as big, otherwise development wouldn't have allowed Tamiyo to be printed at all.
Actually I figured the number overall was the same, but wasn't sure of the exact math, so that's neat to see written out.
The uptick I referred to jnvolved supplementary sets like conspiracy, and the fact that intro packs will now each include a h ique planeswalker that isn't in the actual set
Jace is more blue/white than Tamiyo.Wizards just keeps giving me reasons to dislike jace.All other planeswalkers will suffer design and character wise because of the origin 5.They are starting to eat up all mono color design space and will force out all other secondary characters.
The problem with defining this format by what is "fun" is that everyone seems to define fun as what they don't lose to. If you keep losing to easily answered cards, that means you should improve your deck. If you don't want to improve your deck, then you should come to peace with the idea that you are going to lose because you chose to not interact with better strategies.
Playtested today in my 5c Superfriends. The ult is good enough and fast enough to execute without doubling season, and then the draw and tutor power of my deck was good enough to find it if I didn't already have it.
I know that either of Tamiyo's emblems combo with literally every card but this was the dream I lived:
Tamiyo emblem:
Doubling season
Ugin (draw seven cards)
Jace (brainstorm)
Dack (steal their swift foot boots)
Vraska (assassins)
Elspeth, Sun's Champion (ult)
Attach swift foot boots to assassin, swing, win
Heliod wasn't really the focus though, and I don't know Konda. Meanwhile Nahiri's bad-ness seems to come more fro her Red tantrum, and while Sorin's shown a tyrannical side, it's still too much in the "Aloof Dictator" side to be a outright villain.
What's more, Sorin will likely be mono B, or even BR when we see him again.
What is this based on?
Spoilers from the art book.
Nahiri, after confronting Sorin, encases him in the stone of Markov Manor. He will likely be very angry when he gets out.
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I wish she had. Would have made her more likely to pop up in future stuff. As it is I think we will be lucky to see her in the next five years.
Well Tamiyo fills a nice role that the other walkers dont, its the "geeky" girl, while jace is the geeky dude.
Tamiyo would do a good impression on the female geeky member the gatewatch, especially as shes not human, which makes it more interesting for an audience (as Kiora is kinda out of the picture now).
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Fighting is not combat damage.
What are you talking about. When you're in combat you're fighting someone
If she worked with any damage, mogg fanatic etc would draw you buttloads of cards.
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Cards like Prey Upon do not cause the creature to deal "combat damage" only damage caused by the combat phase counts.
Jace is not geeky: Jace is an idiot.
There is a very wide gap between "Jace as Wizards wants him to be perceived" and "Jace as h behaves in the story." He has wiped him own memory, multiple times. In one case, Jace wipes his own memory so that Lazav can't get information from him for ransom, when he comes too, he starts investige ting to relearn the informatio so the ransom isn't executed. His status as the Guild pact is a total accident, a duty which he wholly neglects and abandons.
At one point in the story he reassures his companion that they are "better looking" than there enemies. Later, he bites Ruric Thar's ankles.
All canon. All, literally canon.
Not to mention he frequently tly ends up in situations where he would die were it not for his plot armor. He has constantly slipped up so bad that he is about to die.
EDH:
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Legacy:
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Modern
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How would it be too good in UW? Are there any Standard decks that play blue that aren't Bant?
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
This. The amount of complaining about this card is ridiculous. Combat-based card draw is partially G, and this PW would have been busted with an easier casting cost.
Personally, I can't wait to build around her in Modern.
Yeah, I mentioned that a few pages back. Someone will live the dream in a Bant EDH deck.
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This is not true.
BFZ had 5. Gideon, Kiora, Ob Nixilis, Nissa, Chandra.
The up tick in block numerous probably comes from a desire to maintain a consistent number of planeswalkers in standard.
See, the core set, alone used to have 5 or six walkers, and since the core set is no more, some of those walkers need to be distributed to the other sets to maintain the number in standard. If Eldrich Moon were a core set it would have a minimum 5 walkers. So they cut it to 2 and the other three needed a home. So one probably went to Oath, Small sets usually have just one. And another one went to Shadows. I wouldn't be shocked to see 4 in Kaladesh.
Planeswalker numbers are going WAY up anyway (I collect every printing). Starting with Kaladesh, each set will come with 2 more just in the intro packs, and sets like Conspiracy and commander generate new walkers as well.
EDH:
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Legacy:
The Rack
Modern
Venser, the Sojourner Control
On-topic, I am stoked for Tamiyo. I was wondering if this block would have a 6th walker, and now I see how they managed it. If anyone, it would be Tamiyo, but being another blue walker, they wouldn't want her to step on
Pajama Sam'sJace's toes. I was kind of expecting her to be WU, but it looks like she's getting the Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker treatment from M13. Basically, she has to be so narrow that only one deck will play her, if any. That way she doesn't push Jace out of the picture. It makes sense.That said, I am in love with her design. The first ability is GU and ultra flavorful, the second ability is WU and really good, her last ability is bonkers and combos with her first ult, and she's actually competitively costed, unlike Sarkhan Unbroken. Not only that, but she checks off one of the eight remaining tricolor-walker boxes, which pleases me aesthetically.
All in all, I am excited to snag a copy when her price inevitably drops
Edit: Also, to those asking why she isn't just WU, I have a theory. It's probably because she'd be too flexible in only two colors, but maybe they also don't want her to take the WU mythic slot that may or may not be reserved for a Spirit-themed legendary creature. Keep in mind, we now have Olivia for Vamps, Sigarda for Humans, Geralf and Gisa for Zombz, and Ulrich for Werewolves. It's not unlikely that we'll see a Spirit legend here to complete the cycle.
I think they meant set, SoI had 4, so for the whole block they only had room for one more walker.
Nope this isn't the case. The two block set already fixes the lack of corset walkers. Before normally we'd seen walkers spread out like this in a "magic year";
1st set of a block, large set: 3 walkers
2nd set of a block, small set: 1 walker
3rd set of a block, small set: 1 walker
Corset, large set: 5 walkers
Total: 10
Example: Scars of Mirrdon block and M12
Now it will look like this;
1st set of the first block of the year, large set: ~3 walkers
2nd set of the first block of the year, small set: ~2 walkers
1st set of the second block of the year, large set: ~3 walkers
2nd set of the second block of the year, small set: ~2 walkers
Total: 10
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They also mentioned the new Planeswalker decks which add (If I'm doing my math right) 8 planeswalkers per year, although they aren't likely to be relevant to the standard headcount. Outside of standard there are also supplemental sets to consider.
Basically, all possible releases accounted for, we should be expecting 18+ planeswalkers a year overall. That's ~23 in standard at one time.
Edit: It turns out I can't do math. It's 27 in standard, not 23. (6 standard booster sets = 15, 6 sets of planeswalker decks = 12, total = 27)
What is this based on?
My 720 Peasant Cube
The uptick I referred to jnvolved supplementary sets like conspiracy, and the fact that intro packs will now each include a h ique planeswalker that isn't in the actual set
EDH:
Niv-Mizzet
Legacy:
The Rack
Modern
Venser, the Sojourner Control
There is the slightest possibility that he wasn't being serious.
I know that either of Tamiyo's emblems combo with literally every card but this was the dream I lived:
Tamiyo emblem:
Doubling season
Ugin (draw seven cards)
Jace (brainstorm)
Dack (steal their swift foot boots)
Vraska (assassins)
Elspeth, Sun's Champion (ult)
Attach swift foot boots to assassin, swing, win
Lol
EDH:
Niv-Mizzet
Legacy:
The Rack
Modern
Venser, the Sojourner Control
Spoilers from the art book.
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