Remember that this is a rumour, you don't have to take his phrasing literally.
It could be that a format which already is played casually could become sanctioned.
Highlander? Canadian Highlander? Duel Commander? Pauper?
A singleton eternal format would be more accessible even with current card availability issues. This would allow them to avoid dealing directly with the reserved list for a few more years.
It'd be nice to be able to post information and not instantly be attacked. That's why I typically don't. It's not worth my time or efforts. So the discussion should be, what this new format may be and not my track record which is over 10-15 correct spoils and 1 fail. That's 92 percentile. Just sayin.
Chill dude. Always remember the vocal minority rule. I think the majority here are all fine with your spoilers but as always those that aren't tend to be pretty loud about it. No need to be rude though.
Anyway, that's definitely interesting. The only two possibilities I can think of right now are either a "Legacy Lite", where they manage to tweak legal cards in order to make a more accessible format, or something totally off-the-walls akin to French Commander or some Highlander variant becoming an official competitive format. I highly doubt they'll be messing with Standard or Modern for now.
If there is going to be a eternal master format I would assume the format would be modern+eternal master cards. I would assume that more so then a legacy format with a reserve list ban. Therefore if wizards don't print dark ritual in eternal masters then we don't have to worry about a turn one necro.
Well, since I've been eying Expeditions foils for a while, I just bought 40x of the shock duals (full set) as a no-harm, no-foul investment. I'll sell off my Ravnica versions next week at either my anticipated price or a skyrocketed one. I hope I just got a whole bunch of free Shocks today.
I'd be more upset with no reserved legacy than just reprinting the cards. I own playsets of almost all the duals and if you ban them I loose money because I can't use them. So reprint them so I can loose money but at least play with them. I'd much rather play with them then have them sit and rot in a binder.
Correction for you. I got one thing wrong out of about 20 spoils so far... The green black man land. All from the same source.
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Why the **** you lyin? I remember when you posted a UB Jace as if it were real when a user on this very forum said it was a custom card he created.
If Shocks become the defacto two-color source then Modern and "Whatever" will both need them, we could see the blue ones hitting $40-$60 again, which would be so, so lame.
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Just to clarify, is your information that "Wizards will announce a new format" or is that "the price of shocks are about to rocket"?
Makes sense considering they're removing Modern from the Tournament rotation. Perhaps they're doing this to be able to control the secondary market value in some way for a format they've created and manage? Perhaps? This is the RUMOR mill after all... Fun!
Makes sense considering they're removing Modern from the Tournament rotation. Perhaps they're doing this to be able to control the secondary market value in some way for a format they've created and manage? Perhaps? This is the RUMOR mill after all... Fun!
Just because they removed modern from the pro tour doesn't mean they're not doing modern tournaments. There are quite a few modern grand prixs this year. You're also blatantly ignoring local tournaments and with that statement. Not to mention regionals, states, and SCG Opens.
If Shocks become the defacto two-color source then Modern and "Whatever" will both need them, we could see the blue ones hitting $40-$60 again, which would be so, so lame.
I'd spam angry tweets to Maro all day if that were the case. I have a lot of shocklands in my decks but if we get a price tag like that again on mana bases it would turn me into hulk.
So, you're telling me that you don't want another format that everyone who plays it has to name drop and tell you that they play it at every possible chance they get?
Makes sense considering they're removing Modern from the Tournament rotation. Perhaps they're doing this to be able to control the secondary market value in some way for a format they've created and manage? Perhaps? This is the RUMOR mill after all... Fun!
Just because they removed modern from the pro tour doesn't mean they're not doing modern tournaments. There are quite a few modern grand prixs this year. You're also blatantly ignoring local tournaments and with that statement. Not to mention regionals, states, and SCG Opens.
Believe it or not removing it from the Pro Tour will have long term effects. As a company you want to control as much of your product as possible.
I just believe there's justifiable reasoning to create a new format. Will it happen? Who knows but it would be interesting if it did...
I predict that everything in the Eternal Masters set will be legal in the new format, which means including some cards that are banned in current Legacy. Basically, without Reserved List cards, the power level of Legacy drops quite a bit, so there is room to bring in some cards that are banned in Legacy right now, like Balance. This might explain why Mana Drain did not get printed in EM.
I agree with this. Balance would work fine in a format as a restricted card, as long as that format doesn't have power 9 etc.
M15 or any "post modern" format beginning sometime around rtr would be super lame
No reserved list legacy would be interesting, but would require quite a few bans to balance in the first year or two, and might just end up feeling like budget legacy
That's kind of the point. Well… that and lower the entry requirement into the entirety of the game's history for players that joined the game after people realized how much these cards are worth.
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Regardless of the credibility of the source and their ratio of credible posts in the past, it would be asinine to introduce yet another format when they're struggling to support and balance the existing ones. They acknowledge the barrier to entry to Modern and Legacy both, which is they're desperate enough to fix that we're finally getting Eternal Masters after two editions of Modern Masters and it barely making a scratch on the cost to get into Magic. So the solution is to introduce another format that utilizes the same high demand resources as other formats? Consider me extremely skeptical.
Even if it were a Reserved List Banned Legacy, that'd completely null and void any impact Eternal Masters has on the circulation of the remaining cards that would be used.
I don't see no reserved legacy as desirable for most current Legacy players with decks.
To be honest I own Legacy reserved list cards and about 15 Legacy decks, so I can loan out multiple decks whilst people build or try the format. If my local play group wanted to play a NRL Legacy I would lend precisely zero cards to it- its not in my interest as I want to play Legacy as it is, now. Ok, I will admit that my favourite card is Tabernacle, so I am biased. Now if the format is cheap as chips then nobody will have a problem with people like me not supporting it and taking my ball home to play with those Tabernacles. But those guys at SCG are not going to be making a bunch of cash of a format that is cheap, ergo it won't be cheap- given that vast swathes of new people are often desperate to get into older formats from Std once their cards rotate. It will be expensive if it is popular and it needs to be popular to replace any format.
Wizards may well alter or replace Modern in some way or introduce a format that could replace it, but I think that the obvious thing would be to have a Modern replacement that looks more like Standard and has less issues with linear decks. RTR onwards, perhaps.
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Great, so we can begin a new arms race to get all the newly popular old staples that will skyrocket overnight. We can also look forward to a crucial lack of necessary reprints, a lack of Pro Tours, and Modern taking a dive in popularity. Joy.
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Another idea is Planar format. Considering the cycle of new plane followed by a return to a older plane, they could have a format where you can only play cards from sets from a particular plane.
Ravnica has RAV block and RTR block, Mirrodin has MIR and SOM blocks.
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Let's face it people, the Rumor Mill hasn't been about actual rumors for years. The speculation subforum? Sure. But the Rumor Mill should have been renamed the "News Mill" ages ago.
that still seems pretty similar to legacy just without duals and force of will.
I dunno what kind of "new" format I'd enjoy tbh
It could be that a format which already is played casually could become sanctioned.
Highlander? Canadian Highlander? Duel Commander? Pauper?
A singleton eternal format would be more accessible even with current card availability issues. This would allow them to avoid dealing directly with the reserved list for a few more years.
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Chill dude. Always remember the vocal minority rule. I think the majority here are all fine with your spoilers but as always those that aren't tend to be pretty loud about it. No need to be rude though.
Anyway, that's definitely interesting. The only two possibilities I can think of right now are either a "Legacy Lite", where they manage to tweak legal cards in order to make a more accessible format, or something totally off-the-walls akin to French Commander or some Highlander variant becoming an official competitive format. I highly doubt they'll be messing with Standard or Modern for now.
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Why the **** you lyin? I remember when you posted a UB Jace as if it were real when a user on this very forum said it was a custom card he created.
If Shocks become the defacto two-color source then Modern and "Whatever" will both need them, we could see the blue ones hitting $40-$60 again, which would be so, so lame.
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Just to clarify, is your information that "Wizards will announce a new format" or is that "the price of shocks are about to rocket"?
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Just because they removed modern from the pro tour doesn't mean they're not doing modern tournaments. There are quite a few modern grand prixs this year. You're also blatantly ignoring local tournaments and with that statement. Not to mention regionals, states, and SCG Opens.
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I'd spam angry tweets to Maro all day if that were the case. I have a lot of shocklands in my decks but if we get a price tag like that again on mana bases it would turn me into hulk.
So, you're telling me that you don't want another format that everyone who plays it has to name drop and tell you that they play it at every possible chance they get?
Believe it or not removing it from the Pro Tour will have long term effects. As a company you want to control as much of your product as possible.
I just believe there's justifiable reasoning to create a new format. Will it happen? Who knows but it would be interesting if it did...
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I agree with this. Balance would work fine in a format as a restricted card, as long as that format doesn't have power 9 etc.
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That's kind of the point. Well… that and lower the entry requirement into the entirety of the game's history for players that joined the game after people realized how much these cards are worth.
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Even if it were a Reserved List Banned Legacy, that'd completely null and void any impact Eternal Masters has on the circulation of the remaining cards that would be used.
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To be honest I own Legacy reserved list cards and about 15 Legacy decks, so I can loan out multiple decks whilst people build or try the format. If my local play group wanted to play a NRL Legacy I would lend precisely zero cards to it- its not in my interest as I want to play Legacy as it is, now. Ok, I will admit that my favourite card is Tabernacle, so I am biased. Now if the format is cheap as chips then nobody will have a problem with people like me not supporting it and taking my ball home to play with those Tabernacles. But those guys at SCG are not going to be making a bunch of cash of a format that is cheap, ergo it won't be cheap- given that vast swathes of new people are often desperate to get into older formats from Std once their cards rotate. It will be expensive if it is popular and it needs to be popular to replace any format.
Wizards may well alter or replace Modern in some way or introduce a format that could replace it, but I think that the obvious thing would be to have a Modern replacement that looks more like Standard and has less issues with linear decks. RTR onwards, perhaps.
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