Agreed. As of right now, Karakas is the only legendary permanent spoiled, so I would hope for enough legendaries to be printed to make this not a dead card in draft. Angus Mackenzie please.
Bouncing an opposing Karakas.
Too strong, needs to be mythic for draft purposes.
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Hard to know if the mythic rarity is really needed, seeing as we haven't seen any legendary creatures. This is probably mythic just like Force of Will is, because of the history or how powerful it is elsewhere. Either way this might give me the chance to own one for an EDH deck of mine.
Also, is it me or does the white mana symbol seem off?
Agreed. As of right now, Karakas is the only legendary permanent spoiled, so I would hope for enough legendaries to be printed to make this not a dead card in draft. Angus Mackenzie please.
Bouncing an opposing Karakas.
Too strong, needs to be mythic for draft purposes.
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You'll still need to go through extra work to animate an opposing Karakas in order to bounce it, and I'm not even sure if the tools are available in EMA Limited for that to happen.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's only played as a silver bullet against Emrakul in Legacy, right?
This is another reason I'm sad I'll never be able to get any packs due to the limited print run.
Hurray for reprints of expensive cards! I already have three Legends but I'm glad it'll help new people get into D&T. I'm hoping Rishadan follows or prices on it will explode.
It's also frequently used with and against cards like Vendilion Clique, among other things. It's a much more versatile card than you seem to think it is.
I didn't know Vindillion Clique as used in Legacy. In fact I don't know a lot about Legacy, and that's how I knew it was used. That's why I said correct me if I'm wrong.
DnT plays 3 of them with Mangara of Corondor to permanently exile permanents. Also to protect Thalia. Swing with thalia equipped with jitte into something really big, get the counters, bounce thalia.
Thanks! Not up on the format and the last thing I knew it was used against was Emrakul. Like the idea of using it with Mangara of Corondor.
It's also great vs Reanimator (bounces Ioona//Grisslebrand).
I'm splitting a box of this set, and we are guaranteed it at MSRP. Sooooo happy, it has more value than MMA an MM2.....
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Agreed. As of right now, Karakas is the only legendary permanent spoiled, so I would hope for enough legendaries to be printed to make this not a dead card in draft. Angus Mackenzie please.
Angus Mackenzie is on the reserved list. I wish people would read the list of reserved cards stickied in this forum.
I'm splitting a box of this set, and we are guaranteed it at MSRP. Sooooo happy, it has more value than MMA an MM2.....
Just like with MM2 we have only seen true value at Mythic so far. Top and Wasteland at rare is nice, but unless we see some more seriously good non-mythics I'll be a little disappointed. Considering the price, I won't be able to buy more than a few packs of this, and I'm certainly not guaranteed a mythic. If the rares and uncommons are generally like MM2's then I probably will pass.
I'm splitting a box of this set, and we are guaranteed it at MSRP. Sooooo happy, it has more value than MMA an MM2.....
Just like with MM2 we have only seen true value at Mythic so far. Top and Wasteland at rare is nice, but unless we see some more seriously good non-mythics I'll be a little disappointed. Considering the price, I won't be able to buy more than a few packs of this, and I'm certainly not guaranteed a mythic. If the rares and uncommons are generally like MM2's then I probably will pass.
Ummmmm.....
You missed Entomb, Sylvan Library, Enlightened Tutor, Toxic Deluge, Gamble, Dack Fayden, Maze of Ith, Animate Dead and Bloodbraid Elf...
The spoilers look pretty good to those of us paying attention
For a second, I'd thought they made Karoo mythic rare. Then I realized, "Oh, Karakas".
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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I'm splitting a box of this set, and we are guaranteed it at MSRP. Sooooo happy, it has more value than MMA an MM2.....
Just like with MM2 we have only seen true value at Mythic so far. Top and Wasteland at rare is nice, but unless we see some more seriously good non-mythics I'll be a little disappointed. Considering the price, I won't be able to buy more than a few packs of this, and I'm certainly not guaranteed a mythic. If the rares and uncommons are generally like MM2's then I probably will pass.
Ummmmm.....
You missed Entomb, Sylvan Library, Enlightened Tutor, Toxic Deluge, Gamble, Dack Fayden, Maze of Ith, Animate Dead and Bloodbraid Elf...
The spoilers look pretty good to those of us paying attention
Yeah good point, I forgot about some of those. Dack Fayden is a mythic though. The set is certainly shaping up to be way, way better than MM2 to be fair. I did love how good the uncommons were in MM1 though (Kitchen Finks, Spell Snare, Lightning Helix, Path to Exile etc). I hope there are some good ones here. Would love to see some great uncommons actually stay at uncommon.
It's obviously going to be Mythic because Wizards wants opening packs to be like a lottery. They don't care one bit about making cards accessible to players, it's all about that drive to gamble which sells packs.
I didn't know Vindillion Clique as used in Legacy. In fact I don't know a lot about Legacy, and that's how I knew it was used. That's why I said correct me if I'm wrong.
Not only is a Karakas reprint great news, but this also means that enemy fetches are out - 240 is Karakas, 241 is Maze of Ith, meaning there`s no room for Marsh Flats. I think that`s good, because enemy fetches need a much bigger reprint than this set is going to provide.
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As a casual kitchen table top player only, seeing a new Karakas foil excites me. So far the only card spoiled that has my interest piqued. And maybe Jace, simply for collection purposes, maybe.
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Bouncing an opposing Karakas.
Too strong, needs to be mythic for draft purposes.
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Karakas is banned in commander.
Steel Sabotage'ng Orbs of Mellowness since 2011.
You'll still need to go through extra work to animate an opposing Karakas in order to bounce it, and I'm not even sure if the tools are available in EMA Limited for that to happen.
It's played with Mangara of Corondor as well
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It's also great vs Reanimator (bounces Ioona//Grisslebrand).
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Angus Mackenzie is on the reserved list. I wish people would read the list of reserved cards stickied in this forum.
Also, the thought occurs that Mangara of Corondor is due for a reprint.
Just like with MM2 we have only seen true value at Mythic so far. Top and Wasteland at rare is nice, but unless we see some more seriously good non-mythics I'll be a little disappointed. Considering the price, I won't be able to buy more than a few packs of this, and I'm certainly not guaranteed a mythic. If the rares and uncommons are generally like MM2's then I probably will pass.
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Ummmmm.....
You missed Entomb, Sylvan Library, Enlightened Tutor, Toxic Deluge, Gamble, Dack Fayden, Maze of Ith, Animate Dead and Bloodbraid Elf...
The spoilers look pretty good to those of us paying attention
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Yeah good point, I forgot about some of those. Dack Fayden is a mythic though. The set is certainly shaping up to be way, way better than MM2 to be fair. I did love how good the uncommons were in MM1 though (Kitchen Finks, Spell Snare, Lightning Helix, Path to Exile etc). I hope there are some good ones here. Would love to see some great uncommons actually stay at uncommon.
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