uhm, does this trigger twice when I choose +1+/1 counter and fight with dromoka's command? because it would be pretty insane if it would.
It does. It is.
Actually, I saw a ruling earlier about that type of scenario with Reality Smasher and Press Into Service, apparently targeting it with both the Support portion, which does target, and its main ability should only trigger it once, even though it was the target for both portions of the ability.
This goes further into other cards that are similar in the targeting shebang, like Wild Defiance, which has the ruling.
01/05/2012 If an instant or sorcery spell targets the same creature you control more than once, Wild Defiance will trigger only once.
So tl;dr, no u dont get two triggers from a single spell due to the way it is worded. I believe it's the '[...]becomes THE target of an instant or sorcery[...]' that is the reason, since if I recall correctly, if it said 'a target' and not 'the target', then it'd be allowed to trigger multiple times on a single spell granted the spell can target the same permanent multiple times.
EDIT: And also to add to the convo, I'm definitely picking up a playset of these, multiple of these on the battlefield proc it multiple times, and we still have things like Expedite, Titan's Strength, Might of the Masses, Slip through Space, Gift of Tusks, and so on, not to mention you can just Fiery Impulse it in response to removal to basically flash in a 2/2 wolf for 1 to keep on the pressure, works especially well against control decks that don't give you a target for all the cheap red removal in your hand, since it just needs to be targeted by the spell to trigger.
Ugin is going to get really bad once all the fatties are colourless. I sold all mine. Sell sell sell!
He's going to be absolutely rotten. Hangarback walker has already nerfed him quite significantly. I reckon he'll be $3 junk within 2 months of rotation
This is, without exaggeration, the most uninspired piece of flavor text I've ever read.
Really? I mean, it's story stuff, right? That's got to count for something. (Maybe it's just that there are no other wolfir in the set...)
He's right IMO. Not only could I not possibly care less about the existence of Wolfir, it seems that Wizards doesn't either. Wolfir seem like such an afterthought that was drummed up in 5 minutes. This flavor text is boring, unnecessary, and meaningless.
Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
This is, without exaggeration, the most uninspired piece of flavor text I've ever read.
Really? I mean, it's story stuff, right? That's got to count for something. (Maybe it's just that there are no other wolfir in the set...)
He's right IMO. Not only could I not possibly care less about the existence of Wolfir, it seems that Wizards doesn't either. Wolfir seem like such an afterthought that was drummed up in 5 minutes. This flavor text is boring, unnecessary, and meaningless.
It's supposed to be austere and minimalistic.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
Actually, I saw a ruling earlier about that type of scenario with Reality Smasher and Press Into Service, apparently targeting it with both the Support portion, which does target, and its main ability should only trigger it once, even though it was the target for both portions of the ability.
But what if you target two different permanents (one for a +1 counter, another for fighting) using Dromoka's Command? I feel like that would be a legit two-target spell.
At that point thats a completely different case, I'm talking about a spell can that can target something multiple times using rulings as references, not one spell targeting multiple objects. Obviously if u had 2 Silverfur Partisan and u targeted one for the +1/+1 counter and the other for the fight, then both would trigger, for themselves and the other, so 4 triggers on the stack, which sounds insane.
Ugin is going to get really bad once all the fatties are colourless. I sold all mine. Sell sell sell!
He's going to be absolutely rotten. Hangarback walker has already nerfed him quite significantly. I reckon he'll be $3 junk within 2 months of rotation
This is, without exaggeration, the most uninspired piece of flavor text I've ever read.
Really? I mean, it's story stuff, right? That's got to count for something. (Maybe it's just that there are no other wolfir in the set...)
He's right IMO. Not only could I not possibly care less about the existence of Wolfir, it seems that Wizards doesn't either. Wolfir seem like such an afterthought that was drummed up in 5 minutes. This flavor text is boring, unnecessary, and meaningless.
It's supposed to be austere and minimalistic.
It hit the mark on minimalistic. However, my point is that their existence is entirely irrelevant even now. Thus, can't be austere or anything else with any substance
Say I have three creatures out, including Silverfur Partisan and target the Partisan with Might of the Masses. Would my Partisan get +3/+3 or can I stack the Partisan's abilities to resolve first, giving him +4/+4 due to the wolf token coming into play?
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Say I have three creatures out, including Silverfur Partisan and target the Partisan with Might of the Masses. Would my Partisan get +3/+3 or can I stack the Partisan's abilities to resolve first, giving him +4/+4 due to the wolf token coming into play?
In fact you HAVE to get the Partisan ability to resolve first. You cast a spell targeting a Wolf (the Partisan), he triggers, and you get the token before Might resolves (giving him +4/+4 till EOT).
Say I have three creatures out, including Silverfur Partisan and target the Partisan with Might of the Masses. Would my Partisan get +3/+3 or can I stack the Partisan's abilities to resolve first, giving him +4/+4 due to the wolf token coming into play?
In fact you HAVE to get the Partisan ability to resolve first. You cast a spell targeting a Wolf (the Partisan), he triggers, and you get the token before Might resolves (giving him +4/+4 till EOT).
Awesome, that's how I hoped it worked casual standard brew forming
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This is, without exaggeration, the most uninspired piece of flavor text I've ever read.
Really? I mean, it's story stuff, right? That's got to count for something. (Maybe it's just that there are no other wolfir in the set...)
He's right IMO. Not only could I not possibly care less about the existence of Wolfir, it seems that Wizards doesn't either. Wolfir seem like such an afterthought that was drummed up in 5 minutes. This flavor text is boring, unnecessary, and meaningless.
It's supposed to be austere and minimalistic.
It hit the mark on minimalistic. However, my point is that their existence is entirely irrelevant even now. Thus, can't be austere or anything else with any substance
It would have been weird if there was only one wolfir, and they never referred to their suddenly collapsed population.
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Nice to see another Wolfir! And another Wolf for theme decks in casual. My wife likes her Hounds and Wolves deck a lot
Power level is decent. Won't be terribly valuable though, not in high enough demand (mostly casual).
Actually, I saw a ruling earlier about that type of scenario with Reality Smasher and Press Into Service, apparently targeting it with both the Support portion, which does target, and its main ability should only trigger it once, even though it was the target for both portions of the ability.
This goes further into other cards that are similar in the targeting shebang, like Wild Defiance, which has the ruling.
And if you look at both Silverfang Partisan and Wild Defiance's wording, they're extremely similar.
So tl;dr, no u dont get two triggers from a single spell due to the way it is worded. I believe it's the '[...]becomes THE target of an instant or sorcery[...]' that is the reason, since if I recall correctly, if it said 'a target' and not 'the target', then it'd be allowed to trigger multiple times on a single spell granted the spell can target the same permanent multiple times.
EDIT: And also to add to the convo, I'm definitely picking up a playset of these, multiple of these on the battlefield proc it multiple times, and we still have things like Expedite, Titan's Strength, Might of the Masses, Slip through Space, Gift of Tusks, and so on, not to mention you can just Fiery Impulse it in response to removal to basically flash in a 2/2 wolf for 1 to keep on the pressure, works especially well against control decks that don't give you a target for all the cheap red removal in your hand, since it just needs to be targeted by the spell to trigger.
He's right IMO. Not only could I not possibly care less about the existence of Wolfir, it seems that Wizards doesn't either. Wolfir seem like such an afterthought that was drummed up in 5 minutes. This flavor text is boring, unnecessary, and meaningless.
On phasing:
It's supposed to be austere and minimalistic.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
At that point thats a completely different case, I'm talking about a spell can that can target something multiple times using rulings as references, not one spell targeting multiple objects. Obviously if u had 2 Silverfur Partisan and u targeted one for the +1/+1 counter and the other for the fight, then both would trigger, for themselves and the other, so 4 triggers on the stack, which sounds insane.
It hit the mark on minimalistic. However, my point is that their existence is entirely irrelevant even now. Thus, can't be austere or anything else with any substance
Standard - Some kind of control
Modern - UB Mill (casual)
EDH - Meren's Grave Shenanigans
In fact you HAVE to get the Partisan ability to resolve first. You cast a spell targeting a Wolf (the Partisan), he triggers, and you get the token before Might resolves (giving him +4/+4 till EOT).
Awesome, that's how I hoped it worked casual standard brew forming
Standard - Some kind of control
Modern - UB Mill (casual)
EDH - Meren's Grave Shenanigans
Haha!
Love the card though, despite the tacked-on flavour.
It would have been weird if there was only one wolfir, and they never referred to their suddenly collapsed population.
Power level is decent. Won't be terribly valuable though, not in high enough demand (mostly casual).
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