I'm looking at the posts saying things like "this would be good if it hit players". Really? You think they would've printed a 5-drop in standard that can one-shot your opponent on the swing (5+10 off an Ulamog or Kozilek usually amounts to that by turn 6)? Greedy, greedy.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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They make a solid, if not overpowered mythic like this, players go "boo, boring and weak, who wants to open this?"
They make an overpowered mythic, players go "but, but you PROMISED [even though they didn't] you wouldn't make tournament staples mythic! You greedy, evil WotC!"
I'm calling it right now- worst rare in the set. Even good limited players will find better bombs at common and uncommon no sweat. Worst. Episode. Ever.
I really do predict this to be our worst rare in set award winner. I'd be happier opening a jar of eyeballs, so I think anything worse is highly unlikely. This card wont just have zero constructed potential, but not be significantly better than a mass of ghouls in a draft.
You're all so bad at Magic. This card is complete garbage outside of limited. Another 50 cent mythic. What a shame. Wizards keeps feeding us garbage, and we all have to keep taking it like the crack addicts we all are
I misread it didn't realise it was creature or planeswalker that's less good
While I can stand back and marvel at the cleverness of the templating, it doesn't really take the place of making a card I actually want to try in a deck.
Yes. And we should be glad that it's mythic. If it were playable it would just increase to cost of playing. People really need to stop complaining about bad mythics.
They complain when the mythics aren't playable, they complain when they are playable.
I doubt Geralf's Masterpiece and Startled Awake are playable but i still think they are mythic worthy for having interesting abilities and flavor.
This thing is a dog that can fucntion as madness enabler some of the times.Might be strong in limtied but is incredibly boring. This could easilly be an intro pack rare
You're all so bad at Magic. This card is complete garbage outside of limited. Another 50 cent mythic. What a shame. Wizards keeps feeding us garbage, and we all have to keep taking it like the crack addicts we all are
Have to? Sounds like you're the person with the real problem.
Unlike you, apparently, see, other people appreciate things like limited and casual play and appreciate eternal/standard players not greatly raising prices on fun cards by buying them up for tournaments.
This is not Hellrider. Or any of the variant attackers. For limited, a 5/5 for 5 is always playable. In Constructed, its ability need ot be game changing. This is too slow to be game changing.
Yeah this shouldn't be a mythic. Maybe if it didn't have the mana cost attached to the ability. Not the worst card out there but it's not great. Especially compared to the other mythics in the set that, if not really good, are at least cool.
I'd rather have it deal a flat 2 or 3 so I could use lands with it. If I've already hit 5 mana it's not like I'm going to want to pitch 4-6 mana cards with this :/
In Limited a power house, otherwise trash. It's sad how many people think that a card that lets you discard is automatically a Madness enabler... No! First of, you never want timing restrictions, the discard ability should cost almost nothing and should come down early. 1R is at the edge of unplayable, but the rest is even worse.
This is your red madness enabler folks. And the best repeatable one we have at this point. I think the effectiveness of this card will be determined by what other good madness cards get printed (other than fiery temper). I like.
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It's kind of disappointing for a mythic, I don't think it will see constructed play. At 5 mana, I think players would rather go for Goblin Dark-Dwellers
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Yes. And we should be glad that it's mythic. If it were playable it would just increase to cost of playing. People really need to stop complaining about bad mythics.
They complain when the mythics aren't playable, they complain when they are playable.
Eh, the biggest problem with this is that it's so unimpressive. Startled Awake isn't a good card either but at least its interesting (probably a mythic because its a weird card).
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
They make an overpowered mythic, players go "but, but you PROMISED [even though they didn't] you wouldn't make tournament staples mythic! You greedy, evil WotC!"
Not to mention that in addition to losing out on the effect of Haste, this costs 5 mana to accomplish.
This is mythic because it absolutely wrecks limited. I'm hard pressed to think of a recent card that is this much of an incredible limited bomb.
In constructed, it is merely ok. Cool creature type, but having the 1R cost for the discard hurts in addition to being forced to attack.
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While I can stand back and marvel at the cleverness of the templating, it doesn't really take the place of making a card I actually want to try in a deck.
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They complain when the mythics aren't playable, they complain when they are playable.
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I doubt Geralf's Masterpiece and Startled Awake are playable but i still think they are mythic worthy for having interesting abilities and flavor.
This thing is a dog that can fucntion as madness enabler some of the times.Might be strong in limtied but is incredibly boring. This could easilly be an intro pack rare
Have to? Sounds like you're the person with the real problem.
Unlike you, apparently, see, other people appreciate things like limited and casual play and appreciate eternal/standard players not greatly raising prices on fun cards by buying them up for tournaments.
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But 5 mana does feel a ton...
Reanimate sucks cause it needs cards like Entomb to work.
You can't target players with it, so no gg.
It's kind of disappointing for a mythic, I don't think it will see constructed play. At 5 mana, I think players would rather go for Goblin Dark-Dwellers
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Eh, the biggest problem with this is that it's so unimpressive. Startled Awake isn't a good card either but at least its interesting (probably a mythic because its a weird card).