Phyrexian Arena
Kamahl, Pit Fighter
Ertai, the Corrupted (with Kev Walker's art)
Momir Vig (new art)
Garruk, Apex Predator
Ruric Thar, the Unbowed
Konda, Lord of Eijango
Rhys, the Redeemed
Dark Depths (new art)
Legacy Weapon
Mirari (new art)
Final Judgment
Jin Gitaxis
Memnarch
Vojak, the Elderhorn
The token is a reprint of the Marit Lage token but obviously doesn't have the *****ty swirly foiling (although it's still vague as hell)
It seems like it's an EDH focused / lore focused, with Dark Depths and Ruric Thar as legacy shoutouts (I guess Jin Gitaxis if people still play him in Reanimator? They usually play that B/R 6/4 instead though) and Rhys, Mirari, and Memnarch are the key EDH cards as far as I know but I don't really play EDH. I had never seen Final Judgment before and that dragon dude is goofy as *****, glad I skipped Kamigawa block.
I have no idea what Vojak does other than that he costs 4GG and his art is some burly looking kinda viking dude but with a single giant deer horn/multihorn thing on one side with the other side broken off, but half the card was missing. I saw all of these in a quick Skype session my buddy started at work. I was on my phone and didn't think to take a screenshot and tbqh I don't know how to do it on Android anyways so I realize I ****ed that up and I'm sorry, I'm sure no one is gonna believe me until these things get spoiled but whatever. These were all from crumpled and torn prints that he pulled out of the trash (the backs all said "discard discard discard discard" on them it was kinda funny) so I had to do a bit of sleuthing to figure out what Memnarch was since I didn't have the top half of him too so maybe something is wrong on here but I doubt it. They went back in the trash because he didn't want to get busted but he's spent a while working there and was finally stoked to be in a position to share stuff with me.
At first I thought there was too many new arts but after checking magiccards.info I guess Legacy Weapon got a new art in 10th edition, which this printing uses, which makes sense from a Lore standpoint I guess because now they have Urza represented kind of. They totally should have printed Blind Seer though.
Really bummed to see that Volrath/Greven/Crovax/everyone from Rath is missing since that's my childhood and the Lore I gave a ***** about rather than THE SUPERFRIENDS meet randos on a plane that do nothing, although I guess Arena/Ertai/Legacy Weapon is like 3 Rath Cycle / Brother's War dudes.
Overall this looks better than FTV:Legends/FTV:Annihilation because of Dark Depths but otherwise I was disappointed.
Also I had no idea what the **** this was until FTV:Lore was mentioned today because the test prints he had were not foiled and had no set icon so I kinda thought he was ******* with me until I recognized the Vig art. IDK how this affects #mtgfinance things but good luck with your specs.
Also meant to post this yesterday but I got blocked by the anti-spam bot. throwaway for obvious reasons
Phyrexian Arena
Kamahl, Pit Fighter
Ertai, the Corrupted (with Kev Walker's art)
Momir Vig (new art)
Garruk, Apex Predator
Ruric Thar, the Unbowed
Konda, Lord of Eijango
Rhys, the Redeemed
Dark Depths (new art)
Legacy Weapon
Mirari (new art)
Final Judgment
Jin Gitaxis
Memnarch
Vojak, the Elderhorn
The token is a reprint of the Marit Lage token but obviously doesn't have the *****ty swirly foiling (although it's still vague as hell)
It seems like it's an EDH focused / lore focused, with Dark Depths and Ruric Thar as legacy shoutouts (I guess Jin Gitaxis if people still play him in Reanimator? They usually play that B/R 6/4 instead though) and Rhys, Mirari, and Memnarch are the key EDH cards as far as I know but I don't really play EDH. I had never seen Final Judgment before and that dragon dude is goofy as *****, glad I skipped Kamigawa block.
I have no idea what Vojak does other than that he costs 4GG and his art is some burly looking kinda viking dude but with a single giant deer horn/multihorn thing on one side with the other side broken off, but half the card was missing. I saw all of these in a quick Skype session my buddy started at work. I was on my phone and didn't think to take a screenshot and tbqh I don't know how to do it on Android anyways so I realize I ****ed that up and I'm sorry, I'm sure no one is gonna believe me until these things get spoiled but whatever. These were all from crumpled and torn prints that he pulled out of the trash (the backs all said "discard discard discard discard" on them it was kinda funny) so I had to do a bit of sleuthing to figure out what Memnarch was since I didn't have the top half of him too so maybe something is wrong on here but I doubt it. They went back in the trash because he didn't want to get busted but he's spent a while working there and was finally stoked to be in a position to share stuff with me.
At first I thought there was too many new arts but after checking magiccards.info I guess Legacy Weapon got a new art in 10th edition, which this printing uses, which makes sense from a Lore standpoint I guess because now they have Urza represented kind of. They totally should have printed Blind Seer though.
Really bummed to see that Volrath/Greven/Crovax/everyone from Rath is missing since that's my childhood and the Lore I gave a ***** about rather than THE SUPERFRIENDS meet randos on a plane that do nothing, although I guess Arena/Ertai/Legacy Weapon is like 3 Rath Cycle / Brother's War dudes.
Overall this looks better than FTV:Legends/FTV:Annihilation because of Dark Depths but otherwise I was disappointed.
Also I had no idea what the **** this was until FTV:Lore was mentioned today because the test prints he had were not foiled and had no set icon so I kinda thought he was ******* with me until I recognized the Vig art. IDK how this affects #mtgfinance things but good luck with your specs.
Also meant to post this yesterday but I got blocked by the anti-spam bot. throwaway for obvious reasons
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Meh.
Not exactly "moments". There is a single "moment", and that is Final Judgment. Otherwise these are FTV:Legends II - This Time More Serious.
Also, Vojak is 1) too close to Voja, and 2) It is LITERALLY a Czech word for "soldier". The "wojek" on Ravnica were inspired by Polish "wojak", that have the same etymology. You would expect such name on Ravnica, not on Viking world.
And Mirari was in Relics. This would be the first time a card would be reprinted in FTV.
I call BS.
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After thinking on it I'm really betting on them having at least one Weatherlight crew member, at least one planeswalker with a major story role (probably not LoTV as she had some controversy with Garruk in one of the card printings, so they might go with Jace), at least one or two major story artifacts like Mirari, and the rest could be up in the air. If they do Hanna, Ship's Navigator I'm buying the set for sure if the art is anywhere as good as the Judge promo. I'd buy the judge promo just for the art, in fact.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
@Caranthir: Legendary Creatures (moreso in the past, but getting better at it now as well) do have stories behind them. I don't think they're going to print this FTV without some legendary creatures in it.
That said, I agree with the statement that the list is a load. It doesn't seem particularly compelling as a list, misses some good story points, and repeats Kamigawa's twice for...some dumb reason.
Phyrexian Arena
Kamahl, Pit Fighter
Ertai, the Corrupted (with Kev Walker's art)
Momir Vig (new art)
Garruk, Apex Predator
Ruric Thar, the Unbowed
Konda, Lord of Eijango
Rhys, the Redeemed
Dark Depths (new art)
Legacy Weapon
Mirari (new art)
Final Judgment
Jin Gitaxis
Memnarch
Vojak, the Elderhorn
The token is a reprint of the Marit Lage token but obviously doesn't have the *****ty swirly foiling (although it's still vague as hell)
It seems like it's an EDH focused / lore focused, with Dark Depths and Ruric Thar as legacy shoutouts (I guess Jin Gitaxis if people still play him in Reanimator? They usually play that B/R 6/4 instead though) and Rhys, Mirari, and Memnarch are the key EDH cards as far as I know but I don't really play EDH. I had never seen Final Judgment before and that dragon dude is goofy as *****, glad I skipped Kamigawa block.
I have no idea what Vojak does other than that he costs 4GG and his art is some burly looking kinda viking dude but with a single giant deer horn/multihorn thing on one side with the other side broken off, but half the card was missing. I saw all of these in a quick Skype session my buddy started at work. I was on my phone and didn't think to take a screenshot and tbqh I don't know how to do it on Android anyways so I realize I ****ed that up and I'm sorry, I'm sure no one is gonna believe me until these things get spoiled but whatever. These were all from crumpled and torn prints that he pulled out of the trash (the backs all said "discard discard discard discard" on them it was kinda funny) so I had to do a bit of sleuthing to figure out what Memnarch was since I didn't have the top half of him too so maybe something is wrong on here but I doubt it. They went back in the trash because he didn't want to get busted but he's spent a while working there and was finally stoked to be in a position to share stuff with me.
At first I thought there was too many new arts but after checking magiccards.info I guess Legacy Weapon got a new art in 10th edition, which this printing uses, which makes sense from a Lore standpoint I guess because now they have Urza represented kind of. They totally should have printed Blind Seer though.
Really bummed to see that Volrath/Greven/Crovax/everyone from Rath is missing since that's my childhood and the Lore I gave a ***** about rather than THE SUPERFRIENDS meet randos on a plane that do nothing, although I guess Arena/Ertai/Legacy Weapon is like 3 Rath Cycle / Brother's War dudes.
Overall this looks better than FTV:Legends/FTV:Annihilation because of Dark Depths but otherwise I was disappointed.
Also I had no idea what the **** this was until FTV:Lore was mentioned today because the test prints he had were not foiled and had no set icon so I kinda thought he was ******* with me until I recognized the Vig art. IDK how this affects #mtgfinance things but good luck with your specs.
Interesting, if rancored_milf's post turns out to be the actual spoiler, it seems WOTC is going to return to the practice of including a card from a future set in FTV. The card in question is Vojak, the Elderhorn for 4GG
That or there is also the possibility the card could be a R&D fake, which they're using to track down where the leaks are coming from. If not then I think WOTC and/or their card printers will probably adopt a shred all test prints policy in response.
Interesting, if rancored_milf's post turns out to be the actual spoiler, it seems WOTC is going to return to the practice of including a card from a future set in FTV. The card in question is Vojak, the Elderhorn for 4GG
That or there is also the possibility the card could be a R&D fake, which they're using to track down where the leaks are coming from. If not then I think WOTC and/or their card printers will probably adopt a shred all test prints policy in response.
Seeing as this particular list has been posted three times just from my observations (once on reddit and twice on this very thread!) I'm inclined to believe it's even more fake, and just someone looking for 15 minutes.
Phyrexian Arena
Kamahl, Pit Fighter
Ertai, the Corrupted (with Kev Walker's art)
Momir Vig (new art)
Garruk, Apex Predator
Ruric Thar, the Unbowed
Konda, Lord of Eijango
Rhys, the Redeemed
Dark Depths (new art)
Legacy Weapon
Mirari (new art)
Final Judgment
Jin Gitaxis
Memnarch
Vojak, the Elderhorn
Why would they include the Mirari in FTV again, especially when they already have Kamahl representing those blocks and Memnarch who IS the Mirari? I'm also not seeing any key story figures from Alara, Innistrad, or Zendikar.
Interesting, if rancored_milf's post turns out to be the actual spoiler, it seems WOTC is going to return to the practice of including a card from a future set in FTV. The card in question is Vojak, the Elderhorn for 4GG
That or there is also the possibility the card could be a R&D fake, which they're using to track down where the leaks are coming from. If not then I think WOTC and/or their card printers will probably adopt a shred all test prints policy in response.
Seeing as this particular list has been posted three times just from my observations (once on reddit and twice on this very thread!) I'm inclined to believe it's even more fake, and just someone looking for 15 minutes.
I'm sorry, someone must have posted my original post that got taken down from reddit here, didn't see that. It's in this thread?
e: oh wow it was like 5 posts above mine, lol. I haven't really lurked these forums since rancored_elf was a thing, in case that wasn't obvious
Interesting, if rancored_milf's post turns out to be the actual spoiler, it seems WOTC is going to return to the practice of including a card from a future set in FTV. The card in question is Vojak, the Elderhorn for 4GG
That or there is also the possibility the card could be a R&D fake, which they're using to track down where the leaks are coming from. If not then I think WOTC and/or their card printers will probably adopt a shred all test prints policy in response.
Seeing as this particular list has been posted three times just from my observations (once on reddit and twice on this very thread!) I'm inclined to believe it's even more fake, and just someone looking for 15 minutes.
I'm sorry, someone must have posted my original post that got taken down from reddit here, didn't see that. It's in this thread?
e: oh wow it was like 5 posts above mine, lol. I haven't really lurked these forums since rancored_elf was a thing, in case that wasn't obvious
Forgive if I'm not inclined to believe your list, but if it is real, let's hope your friend doesn't end up like said elf, aye?
I hope rancored_milf's list is not real. it seems horrible and boring. Besides, having Garruk Relentless in a FTV product is... an insult. Mirari got its special Ftv printing a few years ago and there is just no reason to waste another slot for it again.
Really surprised that nobody else seems to be thinking Blood Moon. It had a HUGE part in the story of multiple blocks spanning much of Magic's early history through Apocalypse.
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Apart from Mirari been repeated and having Red Kamahl(should have been Fist of Krosa Kamahl) the list looks fine to me.I don't own almsot any of them so the prospect of getting them in one package will be nice.If its real
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
Hey people, I'm not sure if anybody remembers, but this actually got suggested at Doug's Voice for Vorthos tumblr some time ago. Interesting that it turned into a real product!
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RIP Magic Duels. Wizards will regret what they did to you.
I could see Mirari's Wake taking the place of Mirari since it's still a notable card both for story and gameplay reasons.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
I could see Mirari's Wake taking the place of Mirari since it's still a notable card both for story and gameplay reasons.
That would be the most logical choice between the two when it comes to Mirari, even if it was in Conspiracy. I guess Memnarch is also the Mirari, but I can't see him over Mirari's Wake.
From User /u/ftv_lore
Meh.
Not exactly "moments". There is a single "moment", and that is Final Judgment. Otherwise these are FTV:Legends II - This Time More Serious.
Also, Vojak is 1) too close to Voja, and 2) It is LITERALLY a Czech word for "soldier". The "wojek" on Ravnica were inspired by Polish "wojak", that have the same etymology. You would expect such name on Ravnica, not on Viking world.
And Mirari was in Relics. This would be the first time a card would be reprinted in FTV.
I call BS.
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
I forgot, now I feel silly.
I play Standard, EDH, and a very tiny bit of Modern.
My youtube channel, I upload gaming related videos and other videos.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
That said, I agree with the statement that the list is a load. It doesn't seem particularly compelling as a list, misses some good story points, and repeats Kamigawa's twice for...some dumb reason.
Kamahl, Pit Fighter
Ertai, the Corrupted (with Kev Walker's art)
Momir Vig (new art)
Garruk, Apex Predator
Ruric Thar, the Unbowed
Konda, Lord of Eijango
Rhys, the Redeemed
Dark Depths (new art)
Legacy Weapon
Mirari (new art)
Final Judgment
Jin Gitaxis
Memnarch
Vojak, the Elderhorn
The token is a reprint of the Marit Lage token but obviously doesn't have the *****ty swirly foiling (although it's still vague as hell)
It seems like it's an EDH focused / lore focused, with Dark Depths and Ruric Thar as legacy shoutouts (I guess Jin Gitaxis if people still play him in Reanimator? They usually play that B/R 6/4 instead though) and Rhys, Mirari, and Memnarch are the key EDH cards as far as I know but I don't really play EDH. I had never seen Final Judgment before and that dragon dude is goofy as *****, glad I skipped Kamigawa block.
I have no idea what Vojak does other than that he costs 4GG and his art is some burly looking kinda viking dude but with a single giant deer horn/multihorn thing on one side with the other side broken off, but half the card was missing. I saw all of these in a quick Skype session my buddy started at work. I was on my phone and didn't think to take a screenshot and tbqh I don't know how to do it on Android anyways so I realize I ****ed that up and I'm sorry, I'm sure no one is gonna believe me until these things get spoiled but whatever. These were all from crumpled and torn prints that he pulled out of the trash (the backs all said "discard discard discard discard" on them it was kinda funny) so I had to do a bit of sleuthing to figure out what Memnarch was since I didn't have the top half of him too so maybe something is wrong on here but I doubt it. They went back in the trash because he didn't want to get busted but he's spent a while working there and was finally stoked to be in a position to share stuff with me.
At first I thought there was too many new arts but after checking magiccards.info I guess Legacy Weapon got a new art in 10th edition, which this printing uses, which makes sense from a Lore standpoint I guess because now they have Urza represented kind of. They totally should have printed Blind Seer though.
Really bummed to see that Volrath/Greven/Crovax/everyone from Rath is missing since that's my childhood and the Lore I gave a ***** about rather than THE SUPERFRIENDS meet randos on a plane that do nothing, although I guess Arena/Ertai/Legacy Weapon is like 3 Rath Cycle / Brother's War dudes.
Overall this looks better than FTV:Legends/FTV:Annihilation because of Dark Depths but otherwise I was disappointed.
Also I had no idea what the **** this was until FTV:Lore was mentioned today because the test prints he had were not foiled and had no set icon so I kinda thought he was ******* with me until I recognized the Vig art. IDK how this affects #mtgfinance things but good luck with your specs.
That or there is also the possibility the card could be a R&D fake, which they're using to track down where the leaks are coming from. If not then I think WOTC and/or their card printers will probably adopt a shred all test prints policy in response.
Seeing as this particular list has been posted three times just from my observations (once on reddit and twice on this very thread!) I'm inclined to believe it's even more fake, and just someone looking for 15 minutes.
Why would they include the Mirari in FTV again, especially when they already have Kamahl representing those blocks and Memnarch who IS the Mirari? I'm also not seeing any key story figures from Alara, Innistrad, or Zendikar.
I'm sorry, someone must have posted my original post that got taken down from reddit here, didn't see that. It's in this thread?
e: oh wow it was like 5 posts above mine, lol. I haven't really lurked these forums since rancored_elf was a thing, in case that wasn't obvious
Forgive if I'm not inclined to believe your list, but if it is real, let's hope your friend doesn't end up like said elf, aye?
Oh yes. I will finally have my glorious Survivors to give to my opponent(s) without the need to be resembled by half-eaten gummie bears...
Modern - Cheeri0s (building), Belcher (building), Lantern (building), UW Control (building)
RIP Magic Duels. Wizards will regret what they did to you.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
That would be the most logical choice between the two when it comes to Mirari, even if it was in Conspiracy. I guess Memnarch is also the Mirari, but I can't see him over Mirari's Wake.
The founding of the Gatewatch (Call the Gatewatch)
One of the Weatherlight crew (Hanna or Gerrard. Maybe Sisay)
The climax of Ravnica block (Kraj and Rakdos kaiju battle royale (Not sure on this one)
The Mirari (Odyssey would be Mirari's Wake. Mirrodin would be Memnarch)
New Phyrexia's victory (Overwhelming Forces? Phyrexian Rebirth?)
Old Phyrexia's defeat (Vindicate or Legacy Weapon would be prime picks. Pernicious Deed too.)
The Phyrexian Invasion of Dominaria (Death Cloud or Damnation could represent Yawgmoth arriving on the plane)
The Brothers' War (Strip Mine is the obvious choice. Or we could add another mass kill spell with Devastation [RIP Argoth])
The Mending (I really don't know. Temporal Cascade? Winds of Change?)
The Conflux (Maelstrom Nexus, Conflux, Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker)
The Kami War (ANY of the notable legends (Konda, Lord of Eiganjo, Toshiro Umezawa, Kiku, Hidetsugu, Hisei, That Which Was Taken) in the story.)
The Eldrazi's release (All is Dust, any of the Titans)
Avacyn's return (Terminus? Avacyn, Angel of Hope?)
Sarkhan's Time Travel Boogaloo (Ugin's Nexus, Ugin, the Spirit Dragon, Sarkhan Unbroken, Time Reversal, Reverse the Sands, etc.)
The Chain Veil (either affected individuals [Liliana, Garruk, Kurkesh], or the artifact itself [The Chain Veil])
Decks:
Casual
R Burn R
EDH
R Godo Voltron R
RUG ETB Overload RUG
BW Clerics Pain and Drain BW
GW Spirits!!! GW
RUG Landfall Silliness RUG
even though its on the reserved list, Sliver Queen would be awesome (not gonna happen i know, but one can dream)
GHardened Steel
WUBRG Slivers
U Merfolk
Legacy
G Hardened Steel
GUWB Counter Slivers
UMerfolk
CG Eldrazi
Commander
WUB Sydri, Galvanic Genius
WUBRGSliver Overlord