Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
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Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Ah, but see Mana Drain is no longer an interrupt, while under the original rules of traditional EDH, there are no Commanders.
Some people stick the rules!
Then none of the Commander set cards that mention 'commander' work in 'traditional' EDH. It's not like mentioning the commander quality by name is new to this product.
I can't wait to use this with Mirror Gallery to make copies of legendary creatures if the ruling permits this to happen. Also, I might add this to my Kaalia of the Vast EDH since she needs all the protection that she can get.
Actually I don't like the wording here. "Commander" looks here like a creature type, even though it's not.
@SunsetOutlaw - Making copies of commanders won't work.
903.3. Each deck has a legendary creature card designated as its commander. This designation is not a
characteristic of the object represented by the card; rather, it is an attribute of the card itself. The
card retains this designation even when it changes zones.
Example: A commander that’s been turned face down (due to Ixidron’s effect, for example)
is still a commander. A commander that’s copying another card (due to Cytoshape’s effect,
for example) is still a commander. A permanent that’s copying a commander (such as a Body Double, for example, copying a commander in a player’s graveyard) is not a
commander.
Actually I don't like the wording here. "Commander" looks here like a creature type, even though it's not.
@SunsetOutlaw - Making copies of commanders won't work.
903.3. Each deck has a legendary creature card designated as its commander. This designation is not a
characteristic of the object represented by the card; rather, it is an attribute of the card itself. The
card retains this designation even when it changes zones.
Example: A commander that’s been turned face down (due to Ixidron’s effect, for example)
is still a commander. A commander that’s copying another card (due to Cytoshape’s effect,
for example) is still a commander. A permanent that’s copying a commander (such as a Body Double, for example, copying a commander in a player’s graveyard) is not a
commander.
What would a less ambiguous wording be? It's the same as 'Snow creatures', 'attacking creatures', '{color} creatures', etc.
I am not sure this is going to be a cycle just because they could be used together and be ridiculously overpowering
Green granting hexproof or trample and blue granting flying ir hexproof
A Bant deck would run all three, the swords, the boots and the tutors... That would be ridiculous
I know they let the banlist take care of business but I think this could realistically be just a sweet White card, it's pretty in theme
Are you seriously implying that a bunch of Gray Ogres could prove be to so oppressive so as to force the RC's hand into banning them? I uhhh... yeah...
I said that fear of something being too powerful, which I believe a full cycle of these could easily be, should not lead WotC to make those cards because they adopt the philosophy that the banlist will clean up what needs to be cleaned up
A cycle of these in separate decks would be completely fine since the decks are balanced against eachother. As I said my worry is that a cycle of these could be ridiculously oppresive when combined.
I can't imagine they'd be all that oppressive. At least not compared to the already bananas things people can do in commander (4 drop white lady getting omniscience on death, tooth and nail, smoke stack, winter orb, etc)
No, this only grants indestructible to creatures that are commanders, not commanders. (if your commander is a noncreature planeswalker, it doesn't get this bonus. If it's a Commander Creature Planeswalker, ie Gideon sometimes, then it is indestructible as long as it is.)
Edit: wow, I wrongly assumed assumed there had been a Gideon commander, but it was Nahiri. If you get a planeswalker-commander to be a creature some other way, say by making it an artifact and then animating it, it could get the bonus.
There is one, it's the flip Kytheon into Gideon.
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Check out the thread for my cube if you have the time, and tell me how terrible it is.
Generals meant to be drafted first in a single pack of 6 cards.
And here is the actual cube, meant to be drafted in 4 regular sized packs. (60 card decks)
The old rules referred to them as "Generals," not "Commanders."
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
That's like saying Dispel doesn't work on Mana Drain because it's an interrupt, not an instant.
Pretty much.
I didn't make the comment- I was just explaining it.
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Some people stick the rules!
Selling some cards I don't want.
Generally less than tcg mid.
Then none of the Commander set cards that mention 'commander' work in 'traditional' EDH. It's not like mentioning the commander quality by name is new to this product.
Reanimate sucks cause it needs cards like Entomb to work.
@SunsetOutlaw - Making copies of commanders won't work.
characteristic of the object represented by the card; rather, it is an attribute of the card itself. The
card retains this designation even when it changes zones.
Example: A commander that’s been turned face down (due to Ixidron’s effect, for example)
is still a commander. A commander that’s copying another card (due to Cytoshape’s effect,
for example) is still a commander. A permanent that’s copying a commander (such as a
Body Double, for example, copying a commander in a player’s graveyard) is not a
commander.
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Probably because they capitalized Commander since its at the start of the sentence.
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Well, if you want to get all semantic about it, this product is not designed for "traditional EDH," it is designed for "Commander."
Command Tower also does nothing in "traditional EDH," but I bet everyone still plays it.
Green granting hexproof or trample and blue granting flying ir hexproof
A Bant deck would run all three, the swords, the boots and the tutors... That would be ridiculous
I know they let the banlist take care of business but I think this could realistically be just a sweet White card, it's pretty in theme
Are you seriously implying that a bunch of Gray Ogres could prove be to so oppressive so as to force the RC's hand into banning them? I uhhh... yeah...
Guilds of Ravnica - Commander 2018 - Core 2019 - Battlebond - Dominaria - Rivals of Ixalan - Ixalan - Commander 2017 - Hour of Devastation - Amonket - Aether Revolt - Commander 2016 - Kaladesh - Conspiracy 2 - Eldritch Moon - Shadows Over Innistrad - Oath of the Gatewatch - Commander 2015 - Battle for Zendikar - Magic Origins - Dragons of Tarkir
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I said that fear of something being too powerful, which I believe a full cycle of these could easily be, should not lead WotC to make those cards because they adopt the philosophy that the banlist will clean up what needs to be cleaned up
A cycle of these in separate decks would be completely fine since the decks are balanced against eachother. As I said my worry is that a cycle of these could be ridiculously oppresive when combined.
Also Grey Ogres are 2/2s for 3, not 3/3s for 3.
There is one, it's the flip Kytheon into Gideon.
Generals meant to be drafted first in a single pack of 6 cards.
And here is the actual cube, meant to be drafted in 4 regular sized packs. (60 card decks)