Definitely not a product for me. Given that most times basic lands are mostly worthless, 5 boosters are worth at most 15 USD in my area, and I don't need the deck box... For bulk storing cards I use the good ole white long boxes. For my decks I have a couple custom built wooden creations I made myself. Short of dropping them from an unreasonable height, flood, fire etc. the decks in those aren't getting accidentally damaged. I can't see myself paying 10 bucks for a cheap cardboard box that is going to wear out pretty quick.
All that said, if I was gifted it I might use the box as a basic land caddy or something.
The fact basic lands in the box arne't full art wouldn't be a problem if in the back(where contentsares listed) a full-art basic land wasn't shown.
If you aren't told basic lands are not full you can't guess it .
This seems like a last minute change by Wizards that didn't make it to the box packaging printers in time. After the fat packs went like over-priced hotcakes, Wizards probably didn't want to have the same thing happen with this so they removed the full art basics. Of course, someone forgot to change the box art.... I wonder if this counts as false advertising? Any lawyers on the site want to weigh in?
The fact basic lands in the box arne't full art wouldn't be a problem if in the back(where contentsares listed) a full-art basic land wasn't shown.
If you aren't told basic lands are not full you can't guess it .
This seems like a last minute change by Wizards that didn't make it to the box packaging printers in time. After the fat packs went like over-priced hotcakes, Wizards probably didn't want to have the same thing happen with this so they removed the full art basics. Of course, someone forgot to change the box art.... I wonder if this counts as false advertising? Any lawyers on the site want to weigh in?
Every box DOES come with 5 full-art basics in the form of the basic in the 5 booster packs, so it's not inaccurate to depict one on the box.
The fact basic lands in the box arne't full art wouldn't be a problem if in the back(where contentsares listed) a full-art basic land wasn't shown.
If you aren't told basic lands are not full you can't guess it .
This seems like a last minute change by Wizards that didn't make it to the box packaging printers in time. After the fat packs went like over-priced hotcakes, Wizards probably didn't want to have the same thing happen with this so they removed the full art basics. Of course, someone forgot to change the box art.... I wonder if this counts as false advertising? Any lawyers on the site want to weigh in?
Every box DOES come with 5 full-art basics in the form of the basic in the 5 booster packs, so it's not inaccurate to depict one on the box.
Technically, yes it's not inaccurate, but it's misleading. The picture clearly shows 5 full packs and a separate small stack of cards with a full-art basic on top. Anyone who has not read a forum like this would assume that the "20 basic lands" would be full art. There will be some irate customers for sure.
And as for the quality, I can verify that it is similar to Theros - better than Khans, but worse than RTR.
I like the multiple card-sized sticker sheets. That was a pretty good idea.
As someone who's collected these since the beginning, I don't know if I would go that far.
Yea, I did some looking and I don't think I'll bother. I was told that they had improved the strength of the lid, but it doesn't look like it was enough. The lids have failed or come close to failing on me 100%. The only reason they have not all failed on me is a couple I noticed ahead of time and have been much more careful with them than I should have to be.
The EV per booster is 2.50$. 5x boosters = 12.50$, you are literally paying 12.50$ for a box and a promo.
The value is absolutely horrid. Unless you open a Gideon or an expedition (protip: you won't), you might as well buy the KTK box.
For references on what EV is how to to get it for this set: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/the-expected-value-of-battle-for-zendikar
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I like the gift boxes, and use them as a way to store my extra commons and uncommons in a set. I keep 5 copies of each card I open in a set in my binder (playset + 1) and also have a binder for any foils I open. I'm a bit of a pack rat when it comes to my cards, and don't like throwing any away, so these boxes are perfect for my extras and I only wish WOTC release one for every set.
While many people like to leave their some of their uncommons and commons behind after a draft, I'm usually the one that takes these piles home (I ask first, just to be sure). This is why I had 24 mint copies of Serum Visions in my collection, 16 of which I traded to get myself back into standard when I started playing MTG again last year. It only goes to show that you never know when a ten cent card from a underplayed set will becomes a tournament staple.
I like the gift boxes, and use them as a way to store my extra commons and uncommons in a set. I keep 5 copies of each card I open in a set in my binder (playset + 1) and also have a binder for any foils I open. I'm a bit of a pack rat when it comes to my cards, and don't like throwing any away, so these boxes are perfect for my extras and I only wish WOTC release one for every set.
While many people like to leave their some of their uncommons and commons behind after a draft, I'm usually the one that takes these piles home (I ask first, just to be sure). This is why I had 24 mint copies of Serum Visions in my collection, 16 of which I traded to get myself back into standard when I started playing MTG again last year. It only goes to show that you never know when a ten cent card from a underplayed set will becomes a tournament staple.
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I wish people would stop quoting $2.50 or $3.00 for the value of a booster and comparing it to $25. The MSRP for 5 boosters is $19.95. So the MSRP on the box is only $5 more. Yes I know BfZ expected value is not high and that you can get them for cheaper. Last year I could get the boses for $13-17 and this year will probably be $15 to $20. Really great value for those who need a box.
And for those without a local hobby store, finding BfZ is not easy outside of single packs size the fat packs are gone.
I wish people would stop quoting $2.50 or $3.00 for the value of a booster and comparing it to $25. The MSRP for 5 boosters is $19.95. So the MSRP on the box is only $5 more. Yes I know BfZ expected value is not high and that you can get them for cheaper. Last year I could get the boses for $13-17 and this year will probably be $15 to $20. Really great value for those who need a box.
And for those without a local hobby store, finding BfZ is not easy outside of single packs size the fat packs are gone.
I wish people would stop assuming every post is directed at them personally, especially when someone posts useful math for those that don't have thousands of dollars to throw away at MtG.
If you really badly need a box, spend your MSRP $$ on KTK or even RTR, NOT on BfZ.
The EV per booster is 2.50$. 5x boosters = 12.50$, you are literally paying 12.50$ for a box and a promo.
The value is absolutely horrid. Unless you open a Gideon or an expedition (protip: you won't), you might as well buy the KTK box.
For references on what EV is how to to get it for this set: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/the-expected-value-of-battle-for-zendikar
Never think about value in terms of MSRP, think about it in terms of chance of acquisition of values.
The thing is this is a Gift Box, meaning many will be bought as gifts and probably not by people who are keen to look for the best price on boosters. Even if they aren't that kind of person, but are a person that would have bought 5 boosters anyway at or close to MSRP because it is fun to open boosters, then this is a pretty good deal. For those people thinking about value in terms of MSRP makes sense. I have never pulled anything of value from the boosters in the boxes I have bought in past years, and even though I have no need to get another, I would still recommend these as a good deal for a lot of newer or casual MTG players.
So I bought one of these today, hoping to replace my old RtR box (for EDH) because the new art is sweet and I've heard decent things about the build quality. Plus, I love cracking packs and now have a sealed pack of those super rare half-art lands.
But I have some issues...
a) what's with the new design? It's like a fatpack bottom was glued into a bigger box?
b) More importantly, my box came with beat up/torn corners that weren't noticeable with the outer packaging. This causes the lid to sit a little awkwardly and looks like crap. Anything that can be done about this?
Wow, nice pulls above. I'll have to check my LGS to see what they are listing them at.
Can we confirm the lands are the standard art lands as well?
They are standard arts...
Attached is a picture of the lands I got in my box
Here's a question for people - are all the half-art lands the same? That is to say, each box comes with 20 basics, which is 4 of each kind, so one of each art is missing. Were those not printed, or are there actually 25 half-art lands and now I need to chase down 5 more?
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All that said, if I was gifted it I might use the box as a basic land caddy or something.
This seems like a last minute change by Wizards that didn't make it to the box packaging printers in time. After the fat packs went like over-priced hotcakes, Wizards probably didn't want to have the same thing happen with this so they removed the full art basics. Of course, someone forgot to change the box art.... I wonder if this counts as false advertising? Any lawyers on the site want to weigh in?
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Every box DOES come with 5 full-art basics in the form of the basic in the 5 booster packs, so it's not inaccurate to depict one on the box.
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Technically, yes it's not inaccurate, but it's misleading. The picture clearly shows 5 full packs and a separate small stack of cards with a full-art basic on top. Anyone who has not read a forum like this would assume that the "20 basic lands" would be full art. There will be some irate customers for sure.
And as for the quality, I can verify that it is similar to Theros - better than Khans, but worse than RTR.
I like the multiple card-sized sticker sheets. That was a pretty good idea.
Edit: 20 basic lands, not 25.
Yea, I did some looking and I don't think I'll bother. I was told that they had improved the strength of the lid, but it doesn't look like it was enough. The lids have failed or come close to failing on me 100%. The only reason they have not all failed on me is a couple I noticed ahead of time and have been much more careful with them than I should have to be.
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The value is absolutely horrid. Unless you open a Gideon or an expedition (protip: you won't), you might as well buy the KTK box.
For references on what EV is how to to get it for this set: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/the-expected-value-of-battle-for-zendikar
Never think about value in terms of MSRP, think about it in terms of chance of acquisition of values.
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While many people like to leave their some of their uncommons and commons behind after a draft, I'm usually the one that takes these piles home (I ask first, just to be sure). This is why I had 24 mint copies of Serum Visions in my collection, 16 of which I traded to get myself back into standard when I started playing MTG again last year. It only goes to show that you never know when a ten cent card from a underplayed set will becomes a tournament staple.
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And for those without a local hobby store, finding BfZ is not easy outside of single packs size the fat packs are gone.
I wish people would stop assuming every post is directed at them personally, especially when someone posts useful math for those that don't have thousands of dollars to throw away at MtG.
If you really badly need a box, spend your MSRP $$ on KTK or even RTR, NOT on BfZ.
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The thing is this is a Gift Box, meaning many will be bought as gifts and probably not by people who are keen to look for the best price on boosters. Even if they aren't that kind of person, but are a person that would have bought 5 boosters anyway at or close to MSRP because it is fun to open boosters, then this is a pretty good deal. For those people thinking about value in terms of MSRP makes sense. I have never pulled anything of value from the boosters in the boxes I have bought in past years, and even though I have no need to get another, I would still recommend these as a good deal for a lot of newer or casual MTG players.
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But I have some issues...
a) what's with the new design? It's like a fatpack bottom was glued into a bigger box?
b) More importantly, my box came with beat up/torn corners that weren't noticeable with the outer packaging. This causes the lid to sit a little awkwardly and looks like crap. Anything that can be done about this?
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Here's a question for people - are all the half-art lands the same? That is to say, each box comes with 20 basics, which is 4 of each kind, so one of each art is missing. Were those not printed, or are there actually 25 half-art lands and now I need to chase down 5 more?