smash to smithereens and nantuko husk are all awesome, should interact well with the heavy thopter theme of the set.
for willbender blue doesn't seem to have many ways to interact well with other creatures besides hydrolash and send to sleep. Weirdly i think green works best with it. Titanic growth something of theirs for a cute combo.
Origens makes me sad that the core sets are going away? How will we be getting reprints in standard now? Do we just have to revisit the plane again or something? but that makes a flavor mess then if we don't show change.
new cards are great but great reprints are just as good. wonder how they will handle reprints and beginner products now?
I misread JVL's article at first and thought he was saying Foundry would lead to more multicolor decks before I saw the card.
Are there any repeatable effects in blue in Standard right now that would make Willbreaker good?
There are plenty right now, but sadly most are in Theros, with the inspired triggers. But why use repeatable when you can just steal the whole field at once? Willbreaker will trigger for each creature targeted, not just once per spell or ability. Yank them all with Icy Blast at the end of the opponent's turn. If you don't want to risk losing the creatures to a single removal spell, go with Curse of the Swine. Willbreaker takes the creatures before the spell resolves, then YOU get the boars.
Sadly, as a 2/3 for 5 that does nothing on its own (and gives back the creatures when it dies), it likely won't see any play, even with the wealth of cards it can combo with.
Does your spell resolve on your opponents' creature when Willbreaker is in play? I mean, is it destroyed by your Doom Blade or does the spell basically fizzle as a result of the control transfer?
Does your spell resolve on your opponents' creature when Willbreaker is in play? I mean, is it destroyed by your Doom Blade or does the spell basically fizzle as a result of the control transfer?
Your spell would still resolve unless your spell checks for creatures your opponent controls. For example, your doom blade would resolve since doom blading your own dudes is still legal.
Does your spell resolve on your opponents' creature when Willbreaker is in play? I mean, is it destroyed by your Doom Blade or does the spell basically fizzle as a result of the control transfer?
For a Doom Blade, the spell will resolve and destroy the creature even after the control change. The Battlefield is a single zone, regardless of which "side" a given permanent is on.
Of course, if the spell has a targetting restriction that the change of control violates, such as Cyclonic Rift (non-overloaded), the Willbreaker will take the creature and then the spell will be countered.
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The target is still valid, so you would gain control and then it would be destroyed. Curse of the swine works much more interestingly. You gain control of all the creatures before resolution, then all the creatures are exiled, and since you control all of them, you get the boar tokens instead of your opponent.
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Modern: UWR Breach, UWB Esper control
Legacy: UW RiP/Helm, UR Sneak and Show
Nantuko Husk is cool, good to see that make a return. Zombies... Getting some tools. Fleshbag Marauder + Cruel Revival + Grave Digger is just repeated removal. Husk is great. All looks like Limited stuff. Give me Call to the Grave and I'm going limited for awhile.
The target is still valid, so you would gain control and then it would be destroyed. Curse of the swine works much more interestingly. You gain control of all the creatures before resolution, then all the creatures are exiled, and since you control all of them, you get the boar tokens instead of your opponent.
Combine this with thaumatage and it only costs 2 mana to steal the whole board. Hmm, blue devotion seems interesting.
Willbreaker seems good with Auras (bestowing Boon Satyr on an opponents creature seems good) and Auras that target a second creature like Hammerhand or Ancestral Vengeance to gain control of two creatures at once.
Also repeatable abilities like Retribution of the Ancients or Shipwreck Singer work super well. Retribution becomes "{B}: Gain control of target creature." Perhaps a UB shell with exploit creatures so that Willbreaker's drawback isn't really a drawback (just sack the creatures for value as soon as you get them, problem solved)?
It may be just a bit too expensive and janky, but it could be fun to try.
I love how absolutely no one cares about Might of the Masses getting reprinted.
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Might of the Masses shouldn't see play. You wouldn't run Giant Growth in Elves, and when it's better enough than Giant Growth to be worth a card, you're winning. Besides, in a deck that wants that effect, Aspect of Hydra is almost strictly better.
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Oh hey! Nice to have you back Smash! That land seems...over costed... I mean, I know it is 2 1/1 fliers, but is it worth 5 mana? Might of the Masses is another nice reprint.
Seems fine when playing against a control deck where you need things to do after you have absurd amounts of mana.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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We only really know that its not a full cycle is all. It will be interesting to see what else fills in the gaps.
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They're better in a set with artifact synergies. For limited I think I'd always play this if my mana could support it and be thrilled about it in UR.
EDH Decks
BGGlissa, the TraitorGB
URTibor and LumiaRU
WUBOloro, Ageless AsceticBUW
UBSygg, River CutthroatBU
RGXenagos, God of RevelsGR
UGVorel of the Hull CladeGU
GBSavra, Queen of the GolgariBG
URGMaelstrom WandererGRU
for willbender blue doesn't seem to have many ways to interact well with other creatures besides hydrolash and send to sleep. Weirdly i think green works best with it. Titanic growth something of theirs for a cute combo.
Origens makes me sad that the core sets are going away? How will we be getting reprints in standard now? Do we just have to revisit the plane again or something? but that makes a flavor mess then if we don't show change.
new cards are great but great reprints are just as good. wonder how they will handle reprints and beginner products now?
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EDH:GRWHazezon TamarGRW, RKazuul, Tyrant of the CliffsR, BMikaeus, the UnhallowedB, UTalrand, Sky SummonerU, GRXenagos, God of RevelsGR, BGPharika, God of AfflictionBG
Standard:BMono Black Control(devotion)B- retired
Casual:UWHeroicUW, UGWall tribalUG, BPhylactery LichB
Modern:UBAbyssal PersecutorUB, WKnight TribalW
There are plenty right now, but sadly most are in Theros, with the inspired triggers. But why use repeatable when you can just steal the whole field at once? Willbreaker will trigger for each creature targeted, not just once per spell or ability. Yank them all with Icy Blast at the end of the opponent's turn. If you don't want to risk losing the creatures to a single removal spell, go with Curse of the Swine. Willbreaker takes the creatures before the spell resolves, then YOU get the boars.
Sadly, as a 2/3 for 5 that does nothing on its own (and gives back the creatures when it dies), it likely won't see any play, even with the wealth of cards it can combo with.
Does your spell resolve on your opponents' creature when Willbreaker is in play? I mean, is it destroyed by your Doom Blade or does the spell basically fizzle as a result of the control transfer?
Your spell would still resolve unless your spell checks for creatures your opponent controls. For example, your doom blade would resolve since doom blading your own dudes is still legal.
For a Doom Blade, the spell will resolve and destroy the creature even after the control change. The Battlefield is a single zone, regardless of which "side" a given permanent is on.
Of course, if the spell has a targetting restriction that the change of control violates, such as Cyclonic Rift (non-overloaded), the Willbreaker will take the creature and then the spell will be countered.
Legacy: UW RiP/Helm, UR Sneak and Show
This is an interesting build-around-me type of card. Although very fragile.
Nantuko Husk is cool, good to see that make a return. Zombies... Getting some tools. Fleshbag Marauder + Cruel Revival + Grave Digger is just repeated removal. Husk is great. All looks like Limited stuff. Give me Call to the Grave and I'm going limited for awhile.
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Combine this with thaumatage and it only costs 2 mana to steal the whole board. Hmm, blue devotion seems interesting.
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Also repeatable abilities like Retribution of the Ancients or Shipwreck Singer work super well. Retribution becomes "{B}: Gain control of target creature." Perhaps a UB shell with exploit creatures so that Willbreaker's drawback isn't really a drawback (just sack the creatures for value as soon as you get them, problem solved)?
It may be just a bit too expensive and janky, but it could be fun to try.
Modern - UG Mana Denial GU
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WBG Melira Pod GBWCommander - BR Olivia Voldaren RB Vampire Tribal
. . . . . . . . . WUB Sharuum the Hegemon BUW Not-Broken Artifact Midrange
. . . . . . . . . WUG Rafiq of the Many GUW Voltron
. . . . . . . . . . .UB Oona, Queen of the Fae BU No-combo Tempo-Mill
. . . . . . . . . WUB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic BUW Pillow Fort
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Legacy: UW RiP/Helm, UR Sneak and Show
Should we? Standard right now rewards heavy permanent presence, not so much combat tricks.
Icy Blast, Curse of the Swine, Glimpse the Sun God?
Maybe some Strives, too? Launch the Fleet? Hour of Need, perhaps?
Probably not too much in Standard, but seems fun.
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Seems fine when playing against a control deck where you need things to do after you have absurd amounts of mana.
Modern: RW Burn
Ooh, that's gonna hurt, especially if you also play Prophet of Kruphix and Kiora, the Crashing Wave. Also add in Daring Thief for extra fun.
I could see Foundry of the Consuls being good with Chief of the Foundry and Obelisk of Urd, and outside Standard with Tempered Steel, Intangible Virtue, and Favorable Winds.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.