By the way I opened two of the same rare out of the same box which I'm pretty sure isn't supposed to happen. I played in a sealed MM15 event at my LGS and the six packs they gave me came from a single box that had just been opened. In them I got two Noble Hierarchs which is the first time I have ever opened two of the same rare in any limited tournament (However I'm not complaining as they as good as paid for the $60 event).
My friend that opened the zero mythic box sent me a picture of his full haul.
3 copies of All Suns' Dawn
3 copies of Horde of Notions
2 copies of Indomitable Archangel
Most valuable card: Foil Daybreak Coronet
2nd most valuable: Regular Daybreak Coronet
3rd most valuable: Spellskite
4th most valuable: Foil Niv-Mizzet
5th most valuable: 2x Remand
By the way I opened two of the same rare out of the same box which I'm pretty sure isn't supposed to happen. I played in a sealed MM15 event at my LGS and the six packs they gave me came from a single box that had just been opened. In them I got two Noble Hierarchs which is the first time I have ever opened two of the same rare in any limited tournament (However I'm not complaining as they as good as paid for the $60 event).
Really? People are just making things up now. You can get two of the same rare from the same box. You can get three or more of the same rare from the same box. There are no "guarantees" on boosters or boxes because it would make it easier for people to game the system.
Outside of print errors and plants (god packs and mythic boxes) what wizards does with print runs is force a less than random distribution but it still has a measure of randomness. You can always get multiple of the same rare or mythic, but that is more unusual than common. In a regular sized box you are almost always getting multiple of the same rare sometimes 3.
As far as the rusted relic thing, I don't even know.
2 identical rares in the same box happens all the time. Like, really? I've seen some crap in my time but claiming that you can't get more than 1 specific rare per box is mindblowing.
The rusted relic thing was likely a test run that got sent out accidentally. That or WotC is the biggest troll ever.
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Looks like a big time error.. people have been complaining about missing rares/mythics in the packs and boxes they have been buying.
if it's just packs i would be worried about packs being tampered with as a couple of videos have shown. If a store has access to something that can recreate the plastic wrap, then an unscrupulous dealer could go through a box take out the high end rares replace a couple of the them with weak rares he's opened from another box and reseal
Looks like a big time error.. people have been complaining about missing rares/mythics in the packs and boxes they have been buying.
if it's just packs i would be worried about packs being tampered with as a couple of videos have shown. If a store has access to something that can recreate the plastic wrap, then an unscrupulous dealer could go through a box take out the high end rares replace a couple of the them with weak rares he's opened from another box and reseal
A LGS will most likely not do that, as its not worth to ruin your store forever.
However, buying that stuff online is a story for itself ...
I opened 2 mythics in my first box a Bob and tezz. I got a foil iona as well. Even though iona was worth a good amount my value came from multiple high value rares. A cryptic, noble, 2 spellskites remand. Foil bolts foil smash foil map ect. The box ended up at 380. My second box I basically broke even around 250 in value. Ulamog, kiki, and opal. I played 1 draft at 50 bucks with modern prize packs and pulled a karn remand and foil clique. the pulls in my store were crazy. 2 foil goyfs, 3 regular ones, iona and cliques everywhere. My foil mythics. It was insane, these horror stories have me scratching my head. I still need nobles and blossoms
It was insane, these horror stories have me scratching my head.
They really shouldn't.
There is a finite number of every card in the set. If there are lots of people pulling insane boxes, then that means by default there are also lots of people getting completely hosed.
I opened 2 mythics in my first box a Bob and tezz. I got a foil iona as well. Even though iona was worth a good amount my value came from multiple high value rares. A cryptic, noble, 2 spellskites remand. Foil bolts foil smash foil map ect. The box ended up at 380. My second box I basically broke even around 250 in value. Ulamog, kiki, and opal. I played 1 draft at 50 bucks with modern prize packs and pulled a karn remand and foil clique. the pulls in my store were crazy. 2 foil goyfs, 3 regular ones, iona and cliques everywhere. My foil mythics. It was insane, these horror stories have me scratching my head. I still need nobles and blossoms
At this point, you should realize that your experience was the outlier, right? My friends and I drafted a box the other night. Ended up so thankful that I wasn't the one who bought that box, as even though we opened a lot of pretty good cards, there was no way he was getting his $240 worth off the cards we opened (Iona, Comet Storm, Bitterblossom, Cryptic Command, and Fulminator Mage were the notable pulls). He was still happy with it because he did not have a Modern collection to speak of, but I think someone with a more substantial supply of Modern cards would be pretty disappointed.
I opened my box yesterday and had basically the reverse...
By the 3rd to last pack all I'd gotten of note were 1 Tezz, 1 Opal, and 1 Coronet. Meh. But that 3rd to the last! OMG! Kozilek, yay! WITH A FOIL GOYF BEHIND IT! OMG!
Ah, so you took my luck. I opened my box last night, hoping to just pull average. Bitterblossom, Kozilek, Prime time. Meh. But the slap in the face was the one booster that just straight up didn't have a rare or better. 10 commons, 3 uncommons, 1 foil common. >:(
Yeah I had a pack like this but it had 4 uncommons (the one in the rare slot had a remand) but the foil was a crap rare
When Modern Masters 2015 first got close, I promised a price match of local brick and mortar stores. Initially, hype was high, and preorders were going for 290+ -- I'm sure everyone has similar stories. Then Channel Fireball and Starcity announced prices, and local game stores planned to adjust to suit. Regulars told me other stores were selling for MSRP, so that's what I did. Then the full spoiler for MM2015 came out, and everyone was pissed. I'm sure other stores had people trying to back out of preorders, and I, too, dodged a few bullets. Fortunately, most people felt that MSRP was at least fair -- till they opened their boxes. I opened one too -- wanted to get back into modern (it got me into Bogles). I didn't really recover MSRP, but at least I recovered cost. Other players were as feast or famine as is being discussed here. One player opened two foil rares and a regular rare in one pack. Two of the boxes were obscene. Most boxes were like mine - with maybe 200 in rares/mythics. A few were unfathomable duds. I'm expecting a much more cautious player base when Modern Masters 2017 comes out - should my hunch that this'll be a biannual event be accurate. MM3 will need to have a much improved pack estimated value for lightning to strike like it did for me on this one. Players won't be burned twice, should they feel burned this time around.
Because of the one box of MM1 I opened having only one Mythic, which was Keiga the Tide Star, and ~$100 in value total I will never again be opening any packs outside of booster drafts and sealed events. Wizards has damn sure burned me for the last time.
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How does someone go about doing this?
My friend that opened the zero mythic box sent me a picture of his full haul.
3 copies of All Suns' Dawn
3 copies of Horde of Notions
2 copies of Indomitable Archangel
Most valuable card: Foil Daybreak Coronet
2nd most valuable: Regular Daybreak Coronet
3rd most valuable: Spellskite
4th most valuable: Foil Niv-Mizzet
5th most valuable: 2x Remand
Really? People are just making things up now. You can get two of the same rare from the same box. You can get three or more of the same rare from the same box. There are no "guarantees" on boosters or boxes because it would make it easier for people to game the system.
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As far as the rusted relic thing, I don't even know.
The rusted relic thing was likely a test run that got sent out accidentally. That or WotC is the biggest troll ever.
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I was missing a foil in 2 boosters out of the one box i opened.
if it's just packs i would be worried about packs being tampered with as a couple of videos have shown. If a store has access to something that can recreate the plastic wrap, then an unscrupulous dealer could go through a box take out the high end rares replace a couple of the them with weak rares he's opened from another box and reseal
A LGS will most likely not do that, as its not worth to ruin your store forever.
However, buying that stuff online is a story for itself ...
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You can try this link. Wizards are doing damage control, so they'll probably accept the faultiness of the contents.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/modern-masters-2015-edition-booster-packs-2015-05-26
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They really shouldn't.
There is a finite number of every card in the set. If there are lots of people pulling insane boxes, then that means by default there are also lots of people getting completely hosed.
At this point, you should realize that your experience was the outlier, right? My friends and I drafted a box the other night. Ended up so thankful that I wasn't the one who bought that box, as even though we opened a lot of pretty good cards, there was no way he was getting his $240 worth off the cards we opened (Iona, Comet Storm, Bitterblossom, Cryptic Command, and Fulminator Mage were the notable pulls). He was still happy with it because he did not have a Modern collection to speak of, but I think someone with a more substantial supply of Modern cards would be pretty disappointed.
By the 3rd to last pack all I'd gotten of note were 1 Tezz, 1 Opal, and 1 Coronet. Meh. But that 3rd to the last! OMG! Kozilek, yay! WITH A FOIL GOYF BEHIND IT! OMG!
Yeah I had a pack like this but it had 4 uncommons (the one in the rare slot had a remand) but the foil was a crap rare
Because of the one box of MM1 I opened having only one Mythic, which was Keiga the Tide Star, and ~$100 in value total I will never again be opening any packs outside of booster drafts and sealed events. Wizards has damn sure burned me for the last time.