Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Great spoiler, will look forward to drafting it. Also, screw anyone who wants this set for 'value' it's a Summer draft set designed to also put some staples onto the market.
Draft sets are $10 for a draft set. Not $10 for a single pack. Don't be silly.
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Decks: Standard - Rally, Modern - Kikichord, Legacy - Elves
Commmander - Eight-and-a-Half Tails; Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker; Prime Speaker Zegana; Alesha, Who Smiles at Death; Daxos the Returned; Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest; Patron of the Moonfolk; Animar, Soul of Elements
I'm SO SICK of the "too strong for Standard" argument. It's the new "Dies to removal". We can have a two mana 4/4 with a zillion abilities, but we can't just have Accumulated Knowledge. Makes sense.
Great spoiler, will look forward to drafting it. Also, screw anyone who wants this set for 'value' it's a Summer draft set designed to also put some staples onto the market.
I would agree, but it'll cost something like 30$ per draft, which will dissuade people like me from drafting it as much as they want. The problem is that they are mixing the draft experience with the expensive reprints when they should keep them in distinct sets.
Great spoiler, will look forward to drafting it. Also, screw anyone who wants this set for 'value' it's a Summer draft set designed to also put some staples onto the market.
I would agree, but it'll cost something like 30$ per draft, which will dissuade people like me from drafting it as much as they want. The problem is that they are mixing the draft experience with the expensive reprints when they should keep them in distinct sets.
There aren't enough modern staples to print on their own in a way which stops people just buying 10 packs and getting all their playsets
besides, I'd rather see goyf in a draft Only problem is my local shop re rare drafts, so no point picking the goyf in the pick stage.
Great spoiler, will look forward to drafting it. Also, screw anyone who wants this set for 'value' it's a Summer draft set designed to also put some staples onto the market.
I would agree, but it'll cost something like 30$ per draft, which will dissuade people like me from drafting it as much as they want. The problem is that they are mixing the draft experience with the expensive reprints when they should keep them in distinct sets.
Here, here!
Wizards have *way* too big a boner for Limited.
I know it's very popular, but geez-
don't let it be so freaking influential on a product that has a grander purpose.
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Great spoiler, will look forward to drafting it. Also, screw anyone who wants this set for 'value' it's a Summer draft set designed to also put some staples onto the market.
I would agree, but it'll cost something like 30$ per draft, which will dissuade people like me from drafting it as much as they want. The problem is that they are mixing the draft experience with the expensive reprints when they should keep them in distinct sets.
Here, here!
Wizards have *way* too big a boner for Limited.
I know it's very popular, but geez-
don't let it be so freaking influential on a product that has a grander purpose.
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Oh lord.
And just when I finished defending the value of this set...
Gee, thanks a lot, Obama!
Pages of ant rants incoming.
Obama is in Portland today and there's tons of stuff shut down and traffic being rerouted all over the place... he is not to blame on this one.
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And yeah, this one is pretty rough for the people who pull this in a pack. But in a draft, this thing's pretty cool. Really I am just disappointed that they aren't using alt art on all these value-steamers. They have the art, so why not provide something new?
Great spoiler, will look forward to drafting it. Also, screw anyone who wants this set for 'value' it's a Summer draft set designed to also put some staples onto the market.
I would agree, but it'll cost something like 30$ per draft, which will dissuade people like me from drafting it as much as they want. The problem is that they are mixing the draft experience with the expensive reprints when they should keep them in distinct sets.
Here, here!
Wizards have *way* too big a boner for Limited.
I know it's very popular, but geez-
don't let it be so freaking influential on a product that has a grander purpose.
Yeah limited seems to be the excuse for alot of things these days. If this thing was all good reprints and had a non-existent limited environment it would still fly off the shelves. Bad cards being put in and good rares being bumped up to mythic "because it's good for limited" is getting annoying.
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Standard
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Modern UBG B/U/G control BBB MBC WUR Control WWW Prison RRR Goblins
Legacy BBB Pox UBG B/U/G Control UWU StoneBlade UW Miracle Control
Great spoiler, will look forward to drafting it. Also, screw anyone who wants this set for 'value' it's a Summer draft set designed to also put some staples onto the market.
I would agree, but it'll cost something like 30$ per draft, which will dissuade people like me from drafting it as much as they want. The problem is that they are mixing the draft experience with the expensive reprints when they should keep them in distinct sets.
Here, here!
Wizards have *way* too big a boner for Limited.
I know it's very popular, but geez-
don't let it be so freaking influential on a product that has a grander purpose.
Yeah limited seems to be the excuse for alot of things these days. If this thing was all good reprints and had a non-existent limited environment it would still fly off the shelves. Bad cards being put in and good rares being bumped up to mythic "because it's good for limited" is getting annoying.
Right, and how much would a booster cost when you're garunteed good rares? $30? per booster? Also, there's a way for people who want to "Just get the cards" buy singles.
Boosters' prices are going to trend towards being higher than their average contents. Otherwise people would crack them and sell the contents. That will either make the packs scarce or depress prices of cards from that set. The packs and the average contents then each have a new value. Whatever that value ends up being, there will always be packs containing less value than their price. One great way to even out that value proposition is to make the packs have value beyond their contents, such as being able to use them for limited.
If you are opening fairly-priced packs for the value of their contents, you're buying a lottery ticket and shouldn't expect to break even on EV. Now, you might be able to buy packs for less than their average price, but at that point you could just resell them for more instead of cracking for their contents.
Limited isn't the cause for low value MM rares. They aren't specifically lowering the EV of MM packs to make limited better. Low value MM rares lower the EV of a pack, keeping aftermarket pack prices down. Limited is an upside you can opt to take part in to increase the value of packs to you as a player.
Do we really think there are 250 some odd "Modern staples?" And all of those wouldn't lump together to make a good limited environment. And no, I don't think an MM set not designed for limited but still priced the same would fly off the shelves. There's no way in hell I'm spending ten dollars on a pack even if I stand a solid chance of getting a $250 Goyf. I don't know if it's been mentioned as to the size of this one's print run but last years was a mistake. Hopefully this year they're making a larger print run.
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I guess there are only so many modern staple cards they can include and they still have to make a good limited environment.
And just when I finished defending the value of this set...
Gee, thanks a lot, Obama!
Pages of ant rants incoming.
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
RGWMayael the AnimaRGW
UBRMarchesa, the Black RoseUBR
Modern Decks
RGWNaya BurnRGW
Daretti
Ezuri
Captain Sisay (In work)
Commmander - Eight-and-a-Half Tails; Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker; Prime Speaker Zegana; Alesha, Who Smiles at Death; Daxos the Returned; Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest; Patron of the Moonfolk; Animar, Soul of Elements
It would be so freakin hilarious if magmaw turns out to be a real card in this! Your tears of rage? Fuel for the magmaw!
There aren't enough modern staples to print on their own in a way which stops people just buying 10 packs and getting all their playsets
besides, I'd rather see goyf in a draft Only problem is my local shop re rare drafts, so no point picking the goyf in the pick stage.
Here, here!
Wizards have *way* too big a boner for Limited.
I know it's very popular, but geez-
don't let it be so freaking influential on a product that has a grander purpose.
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
I'll be totally cool with being passed this, as well.
I will not be cool with opening one.
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Limited is their biggest earner.
UR Blue-Red Control
Modern:
UBR Grixis Control
UWR Jeskai Control
Sure, but a set like this has the potential to sell like hotcakes even if the Limited environment is terrible.
I don't think many people would be complaining if these Limited-only Rares
were replaced by less expensive Modern staples (or even EDH staples).
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Obama is in Portland today and there's tons of stuff shut down and traffic being rerouted all over the place... he is not to blame on this one.
....
And yeah, this one is pretty rough for the people who pull this in a pack. But in a draft, this thing's pretty cool. Really I am just disappointed that they aren't using alt art on all these value-steamers. They have the art, so why not provide something new?
WUBRGPauper Battle BoxWUBRG ... and why I am not a fan of Wayne Reynolds' Illustrations.
Yeah limited seems to be the excuse for alot of things these days. If this thing was all good reprints and had a non-existent limited environment it would still fly off the shelves. Bad cards being put in and good rares being bumped up to mythic "because it's good for limited" is getting annoying.
none
Modern
UBG B/U/G control
BBB MBC
WUR Control
WWW Prison
RRR Goblins
Legacy
BBB Pox
UBG B/U/G Control
UWU StoneBlade
UW Miracle Control
Right, and how much would a booster cost when you're garunteed good rares? $30? per booster? Also, there's a way for people who want to "Just get the cards" buy singles.
If you are opening fairly-priced packs for the value of their contents, you're buying a lottery ticket and shouldn't expect to break even on EV. Now, you might be able to buy packs for less than their average price, but at that point you could just resell them for more instead of cracking for their contents.
Limited isn't the cause for low value MM rares. They aren't specifically lowering the EV of MM packs to make limited better. Low value MM rares lower the EV of a pack, keeping aftermarket pack prices down. Limited is an upside you can opt to take part in to increase the value of packs to you as a player.