That is some sexy art, to bad the card is nigh unplayable outside of standard. I kinda wish the FMN art were for cards with some eternal format playability. (And I don't even play them!)
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"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain bad at Magic."
-Benjamin "The Innovator" Franklin
Standard:
Nothing, hate standard after Rhino
Modern:
Looking at Evolution Decks, RUG or [mana]WRG[mana]
Legacy:
Shardless Foundry ('Cause I have a crippling addiction to Shardless Agent)BUG (and I'm to broke for goyfs)
EDH: RGUSurrak Dragon Tribal!RGU URArjun StormUR GUEzuri TokensGU GRBUYidris GoodstuffGRBU
That is some sexy art, to bad the card is nigh unplayable outside of standard. I kinda wish the FMN art were for cards with some eternal format playability. (And I don't even play them!)
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary Melek, Izzet Paragon Oona, Queen of the Fae Bruna, Light of Alabaster Gisela, Blade of Goldnight Rhys the Redeemed Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord Sen Triplets The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
That is some sexy art, to bad the card is nigh unplayable outside of standard. I kinda wish the FMN art were for cards with some eternal format playability. (And I don't even play them!)
When FNM promos are bad, people wish we got good ones. When FNM promos are good, people whine that we didn't get better ones.
If we get another legacy playable promo, people will complain it isn't good enough for vintage.
If they don't reprint Counterspell, how are we going to get promos of it for FNM?
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I fear I won't have much time to play Magic these days.
I get to watch worlds develop around me.
I get to watch great leaders, terrible oppressors, and trend setters rise and fall.
Limited, Standard, Modern, everything is a different playing field I feel I can observe, but will not actually touch.
I look forward to the stories I will hear.
And more so to the ones I will watch unfold first hand.
Isn't the unknown exciting?
If we get another legacy playable promo, people will complain it isn't good enough for vintage.
People complain about everything. Making promo's for other formats besides standard would be good for the game, players in those formats would be happy, and it can increase card availability. Obviously people will complain but people are complaining now so I think its reasonable for players who play other formats especially if only for a few months in a year. (Say 2-4)
They've seriously toned down the power level of uncommon cards is why you don't get many playables.
How many uncommons and commons from recent sets have seen eternal play? Obviously Treasure Cruise, but with that banned we probably won't see a promo.
The last multi format staple common/uncommon printed is probably Lingering Souls, and we did get that as a promo.
Monastery Swiftspear.
Good call, I figured I had missed a couple (and I bet we see that as an FNM promo). Point is, they are definitely fewer and further between than a few years ago, when a lot of the best cards in a given set were commons and uncommons with veyr high power levels.
I disagree that people complain all the time about FNM promos. I haven't heard many complaints about Stoke the Flames, for instance, even if it's just a Standard-staple.
There are plenty of cards I'd like to see a promo of: Monastery Swiftspear (already mentioned) Murderous Cut (played in some modern and standard decks) Anticipate (maybe playable, who knows) Become Immense (played in modern infect) Gurmag Angler (played in modern Dredgevine) Duress (Can we get a nice artwork on a discard-spell just ONCE please? Both versions of Thoughtseize are terrible, as are all artworks for Duress and Despise (the new one being particularly bad)).
edit: Okay, maybe I was a little unfair about Duress-artworks. I think the M10+ Artwork is actually tolerable.
I disagree that people complain all the time about FNM promos. I haven't heard many complaints about Stoke the Flames, for instance, even if it's just a Standard-staple.
There are plenty of cards I'd like to see a promo of: Monastery Swiftspear (already mentioned) Murderous Cut (played in some modern and standard decks) Anticipate (maybe playable, who knows) Become Immense (played in modern infect) Gurmag Angler (played in modern Dredgevine) Duress (Can we get a nice artwork on a discard-spell just ONCE please? Both versions of Thoughtseize are terrible, as are all artworks for Duress and Despise (the new one being particularly bad)).
edit: Okay, maybe I was a little unfair about Duress-artworks. I think the M10+ Artwork is actually tolerable.
It would obviously be great if they were to print eternal playable promos, but I'm content with standard playables. About half of them seem to be.
It's not looking good for the KTK uncommons (still possible but they've moved on to FRF already). Anticipate is the one I'd love to see printed from the last two sets.
I always think that FNM Promos are interesting, especially ones like these. Since we know that they don't want to release crappy promos, we're seeing a card that R&D expected to be more popular or more playable than it is. It makes me wonder what decks people were playing in the FFL to make them believe Frost Walker was good enough for people to want a promo.
frost walker its very playable, 4/1 for 2 mana in a delver deck can beat so much
Gurmag Angler its a staple in Pauper format too, UB Delver decks runs 3x and 4x Delver
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Modern: RW R/W Burn WB B/W TokensXU MonuU Tron // UWX UW Tron R GoblinsW Soul SistersRWG Small ZooWUR WUR Geist/Control/Kiki-Resto Combo/NahiriUR Splinter Twin (90% Japanese)/ Grixis TwinRUB UR Delver / Grixis Delver UR Blue MoonBWU Ad NauseamWDeath and TaxesRUB Grixis ControlUMerfolksX Affinity RGB Living End UR Storm/PiF Combo RGX R/G TRON GWU Bant Eldrazi BW Eldrazi and Taxes RUBGoryos Vengeance UB Faeries Legacy:BRx Renimator Playing right now:Standard: Jeskai Control Modern; GoryosVengeance/UBFaeries/Affinity Legacy: BRx Reanimator Pauper: UR Drake (banned) Commander: Merieke Ri Berit Esper
I disagree that people complain all the time about FNM promos. I haven't heard many complaints about Stoke the Flames, for instance, even if it's just a Standard-staple.
There are plenty of cards I'd like to see a promo of: Monastery Swiftspear (already mentioned) Murderous Cut (played in some modern and standard decks) Anticipate (maybe playable, who knows) Become Immense (played in modern infect) Gurmag Angler (played in modern Dredgevine) Duress (Can we get a nice artwork on a discard-spell just ONCE please? Both versions of Thoughtseize are terrible, as are all artworks for Duress and Despise (the new one being particularly bad)).
edit: Okay, maybe I was a little unfair about Duress-artworks. I think the M10+ Artwork is actually tolerable.
Given there is quiet a number of eternal playable cards in the Kharn's block (relative to your average block) I am confused how they have managed to not print any of them yet. I am still surprised we never got a Young Pyromancer Promo. It is played in every format including Vintage and the original art is god-awful.
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In play: Jund Death Shadow, Grixis Control, Eldrazi Stompy, Ponza
In the yard: RUG Delver, Kiki-Chord, Grixis Twin, Mardu Control, Smallpox, Jeskai Control, Jeskai Delver, Assault Loam, Elves, Deathcloud, Eggs, Storm
I always think that FNM Promos are interesting, especially ones like these. Since we know that they don't want to release crappy promos, we're seeing a card that R&D expected to be more popular or more playable than it is. It makes me wonder what decks people were playing in the FFL to make them believe Frost Walker was good enough for people to want a promo.
I don't know why people are complaining. My deck runs 4 Frost Walkers currently and usually goes 4-0, 3-1, or 3-0-1 at FNM each week.
From Today's Arcana
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/arcana/april-through-june-fnm-promo-update-2015-03-30
-Benjamin "The Innovator" Franklin
Standard:
Nothing, hate standard after Rhino
Modern:
Looking at Evolution Decks, RUG or [mana]WRG[mana]
Legacy:
Shardless Foundry ('Cause I have a crippling addiction to Shardless Agent) BUG (and I'm to broke for goyfs)
EDH:
RGUSurrak Dragon Tribal!RGU
URArjun StormUR
GUEzuri TokensGU
GRBUYidris GoodstuffGRBU
We used to get FNM promos like Remand, Isochron Scepter, and Path to Exile.
Now it's mostly garbagetastic.
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Well Path was never an FNM promo...
Also Hoardling Outburst, Stoke the Flames and Bile Blight are bad cards now? What?
If we get another legacy playable promo, people will complain it isn't good enough for vintage.
Commander:
R Daretti, Scrap Savant
BR Olivia Voldaren
BRG Shattergang Brothers
GUR Riku of Two Reflections
WBG Karador, Ghost Chieftain
If they don't reprint Counterspell, how are we going to get promos of it for FNM?
I get to watch great leaders, terrible oppressors, and trend setters rise and fall.
Limited, Standard, Modern, everything is a different playing field I feel I can observe, but will not actually touch.
I look forward to the stories I will hear.
And more so to the ones I will watch unfold first hand.
Isn't the unknown exciting?
How many uncommons and commons from recent sets have seen eternal play? Obviously Treasure Cruise, but with that banned we probably won't see a promo.
The last multi format staple common/uncommon printed is probably Lingering Souls, and we did get that as a promo.
People complain about everything. Making promo's for other formats besides standard would be good for the game, players in those formats would be happy, and it can increase card availability. Obviously people will complain but people are complaining now so I think its reasonable for players who play other formats especially if only for a few months in a year. (Say 2-4)
EDH- Korlash
Modern- Enduring Ideal
Anime- Legend of the galactic heroes!
Monastery Swiftspear.
UR Blue-Red Control
Modern:
UBR Grixis Control
UWR Jeskai Control
Good call, I figured I had missed a couple (and I bet we see that as an FNM promo). Point is, they are definitely fewer and further between than a few years ago, when a lot of the best cards in a given set were commons and uncommons with veyr high power levels.
There are plenty of cards I'd like to see a promo of:
Monastery Swiftspear (already mentioned)
Murderous Cut (played in some modern and standard decks)
Anticipate (maybe playable, who knows)
Become Immense (played in modern infect)
Gurmag Angler (played in modern Dredgevine)
Duress (Can we get a nice artwork on a discard-spell just ONCE please? Both versions of Thoughtseize are terrible, as are all artworks for Duress and Despise (the new one being particularly bad)).
edit: Okay, maybe I was a little unfair about Duress-artworks. I think the M10+ Artwork is actually tolerable.
It would obviously be great if they were to print eternal playable promos, but I'm content with standard playables. About half of them seem to be.
It's not looking good for the KTK uncommons (still possible but they've moved on to FRF already). Anticipate is the one I'd love to see printed from the last two sets.
UR Blue-Red Control
Modern:
UBR Grixis Control
UWR Jeskai Control
Gurmag Angler also sees play in that Esper Delve deck in Modern with 4 of it and 4 Tasigur, the Golden Fang.
Angler also sees bit play in Legacy URb Delver. A 1-1 Angler-Tasigur split is becoming increasingly popular.
Gurmag Angler its a staple in Pauper format too, UB Delver decks runs 3x and 4x Delver
RW R/W Burn WB B/W TokensXU MonuU Tron // UWX UW Tron
R GoblinsW Soul SistersRWG Small ZooWUR WUR Geist/Control/Kiki-Resto Combo/NahiriUR Splinter Twin (90% Japanese)/ Grixis TwinRUB UR Delver / Grixis Delver UR Blue MoonBWU Ad NauseamWDeath and TaxesRUB Grixis ControlUMerfolksX Affinity RGB Living End UR Storm/PiF Combo RGX R/G TRON GWU Bant Eldrazi BW Eldrazi and Taxes RUBGoryos Vengeance UB Faeries
Legacy:BRx Renimator
Playing right now: Standard: Jeskai Control Modern; GoryosVengeance/UBFaeries/Affinity Legacy: BRx Reanimator Pauper: UR Drake (banned) Commander: Merieke Ri Berit Esper
You missed this one :>
In the yard: RUG Delver, Kiki-Chord, Grixis Twin, Mardu Control, Smallpox, Jeskai Control, Jeskai Delver, Assault Loam, Elves, Deathcloud, Eggs, Storm
UR Melek, Izzet ParagonUR, B Shirei, Shizo's CaretakerB, R Jaya Ballard, Task MageR,RW Tajic, Blade of the LegionRW, UB Lazav, Dimir MastermindUB, UB Circu, Dimir LobotomistUB, RWU Zedruu the GreatheartedRWU, GUBThe MimeoplasmGUB, UGExperiment Kraj UG, WDarien, King of KjeldorW, BMarrow-GnawerB, WBGKarador, Ghost ChieftainWBG, UTeferi, Temporal ArchmageU, GWUDerevi, Empyrial TacticianGWU, RDaretti, Scrap SavantR, UTalrand, Sky SummonerU, GEzuri, Renegade LeaderG, WUBRGReaper KingWUBRG, RGXenagos, God of RevelsRG, CKozilek, Butcher of TruthC, WUBRGGeneral TazriWUBRG, GTitania, Protector of ArgothG
So it probably tells us that 8/10 times they got it wrong in the FFL.
UR Melek, Izzet ParagonUR, B Shirei, Shizo's CaretakerB, R Jaya Ballard, Task MageR,RW Tajic, Blade of the LegionRW, UB Lazav, Dimir MastermindUB, UB Circu, Dimir LobotomistUB, RWU Zedruu the GreatheartedRWU, GUBThe MimeoplasmGUB, UGExperiment Kraj UG, WDarien, King of KjeldorW, BMarrow-GnawerB, WBGKarador, Ghost ChieftainWBG, UTeferi, Temporal ArchmageU, GWUDerevi, Empyrial TacticianGWU, RDaretti, Scrap SavantR, UTalrand, Sky SummonerU, GEzuri, Renegade LeaderG, WUBRGReaper KingWUBRG, RGXenagos, God of RevelsRG, CKozilek, Butcher of TruthC, WUBRGGeneral TazriWUBRG, GTitania, Protector of ArgothG
I don't know why people are complaining. My deck runs 4 Frost Walkers currently and usually goes 4-0, 3-1, or 3-0-1 at FNM each week.
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- No Brains, All Feelings Cube
UR Melek, Izzet ParagonUR, B Shirei, Shizo's CaretakerB, R Jaya Ballard, Task MageR,RW Tajic, Blade of the LegionRW, UB Lazav, Dimir MastermindUB, UB Circu, Dimir LobotomistUB, RWU Zedruu the GreatheartedRWU, GUBThe MimeoplasmGUB, UGExperiment Kraj UG, WDarien, King of KjeldorW, BMarrow-GnawerB, WBGKarador, Ghost ChieftainWBG, UTeferi, Temporal ArchmageU, GWUDerevi, Empyrial TacticianGWU, RDaretti, Scrap SavantR, UTalrand, Sky SummonerU, GEzuri, Renegade LeaderG, WUBRGReaper KingWUBRG, RGXenagos, God of RevelsRG, CKozilek, Butcher of TruthC, WUBRGGeneral TazriWUBRG, GTitania, Protector of ArgothG
Sure. First, here's the deck I was running pre-DTK for about a month. It consistently went 4-0, 3-0-1, or 3-1 at FNM:
4x Rattleclaw Mystic
4x Frost Walker
4x Savage Knuckleblade
4x Flamewake Phoenix
3x Boon Satyr
3x Shaman of the Great Hunt
3x Ashcloud Phoenix
2x Wild Slash
3x Lightning Strike
4x Crater's Claws
1x Temple of Abandon
1x Temple of Epiphany
4x Frontier Bivouac
3x Shivan Reef
3x Yavimaya Coast
4x Wooded Foothills
3x Forest
2x Mountain
2x Mana Confluence
3x Disdainful Stroke
2x Stubborn Denial
2x Surrak Dragonclaw
2x Magma Spray
2x Barrage of Boulders
1x Reclamation Sage
This Friday, in the post-DTK world, I'm going to try the deck with the following changes:
Main:
-3 Elvish Mystic
-3 Ashcloud Phoenix
-2 Wild Slash
+4 Heir of the Wilds
+3 Atarka's Command
+1 Collected Company
Board
-1 Temur Charm
+1 Display of Dominance
We'll see how this works out for me on Friday.
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