I think this sideboard material versus control decks. It's too expensive for a main deck slot; Ingenuity sees play, sure, but once Anticipate rotates in I doubt it will continue to do so.
Assuming this is playable, that's another point in favor of Dragonlord Ojutai as control's go-to finisher.
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* There's a incentive to cut DTT slots there in order to raise Murderousw Cut slots (there's only so much Delve you can use without direct delve enablers).
* DTT's delve cost reduction does not help you to play the card very early. Instead it let you reduce the cost and one of the reasons why this is important is to let you keep mana open to protect it from counters. This can't be countered under certain circustances which sort of have similar effect. And between this and Crux, you want to play dragon finishers anyway.
* It draws a lot of cards which is more in tune with UB strategy then searching for specific cards. TC always had a hard time only because it was a sorcery so playing it without the full delve is pretty bad which made the card inconsistent.
I think UB should consider playing a mix of Antecipate, this and DTT. It looks like a very, very solid draw engine to me.
With the reprint of Ultimate price, I don't think that many people will run Murderous Cut, at least as long as the theros block is standard legal. Some people might run this card, but I think it's an incredibly boring rare that I might run out of necessity somewhere down the line if they don't print any other good card drawing spells.
Really? This is WEAK sauce.
requirement: Run a Dragon/ S Plural (Silumgar seems very Meh to play as a finisher for control decks. Control tends to run 1-2 creatures to win, with Planeswalkers as other win cons/ or grindclock? lol) this card is...oh I think it's a funny card. Jace's Ingenuity can save UB turn 5 when it needs to draw. This? If I'm drawing on Turn 6 for cards I'm usually dead in this format, besides, they do know how hard it is to hit a land drop every turn? This will go off turn 7 if you're lucky.
IN the mirror match? MAYBE.
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Really? This is WEAK sauce.
requirement: Run a Dragon/ S Plural (Silumgar seems very Meh to play as a finisher for control decks. Control tends to run 1-2 creatures to win, with Planeswalkers as other win cons/ or grindclock? lol) this card is...oh I think it's a funny card. Jace's Ingenuity can save UB turn 5 when it needs to draw. This? If I'm drawing on Turn 6 for cards I'm usually dead in this format, besides, they do know how hard it is to hit a land drop every turn? This will go off turn 7 if you're lucky.
IN the mirror match? MAYBE.
Somebody has never played with Opportunity, a card that was played in every Standard format it was legal, including when Revelation was legal.
Just seems like a run of the mill uncommon, but at rare. Not very pleased with that. Even if it just always couldn't be countered it would still just be a solid uncommon...
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all I know is that right now, the requirement to have a Dragonlord card in Hand, and 6 Mana available to cast this is tough to meet (The latter being conditional). I play UB control, and getting a consistent land drop every game isn't something I've done yet. Jace's Ingenuity does it for less and while it can be countered, I do not need to do anything cute except have 5 lands in play turn 5-or 6. That is much more realstic to achieve than getting 6 and a dragon card in hand. Hey, it could be amazing, but 6? + Dragonlord? Silumgar isn't a finisher, and his younger version was "okay", and arguably better. At best, it'll be 4 cards for 6 mana, not bad, I prefer to leave 2 open for negate/ Disdainful stroke follow up to an cuteness my opponent tries.
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Modern: Decks I'm playing right now: G Mono Green Tron (34-10-3 paper record, only SCG/Regionals/PPTQ record) C Eldrazi Tron (9-5) UG Infect RW Burn
all I know is that right now, the requirement to have a Dragonlord card in Hand, and 6 Mana available to cast this is tough to meet (The latter being conditional). I play UB control, and getting a consistent land drop every game isn't something I've done yet. Jace's Ingenuity does it for less and while it can be countered, I do not need to do anything cute except have 5 lands in play turn 5-or 6. That is much more realstic to achieve than getting 6 and a dragon card in hand. Hey, it could be amazing, but 6? + Dragonlord? Silumgar isn't a finisher, and his younger version was "okay", and arguably better. At best, it'll be 4 cards for 6 mana, not bad, I prefer to leave 2 open for negate/ Disdainful stroke follow up to an cuteness my opponent tries.
Why exactly do you need to have a dragon in hand to cast this?
It's an instant, so you can leave up mana for Negate/Disdainful Stroke and still cast this.
If you're having problems hitting your land drops in U/B control, you should probably rethink how you have built your deck, cause that's not a problem with the spells in your deck, it's a problem with the number of lands in your deck.
Because if I did want to use it, call me greedy I'd want to have it be uncounterable, if it's a rare I'd rather use it's rare effect, if that's not doable, I'd rather use Jace's Ingenuity until it rotates out, because as it stands, the latter card is better for UB control style play. This is my opinion, I'll play test it, but UB runs maybe 2 creatures MB.
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Modern: Decks I'm playing right now: G Mono Green Tron (34-10-3 paper record, only SCG/Regionals/PPTQ record) C Eldrazi Tron (9-5) UG Infect RW Burn
Because if I did want to use it, call me greedy I'd want to have it be uncounterable, if it's a rare I'd rather use it's rare effect, if that's not doable, I'd rather use Jace's Ingenuity until it rotates out, because as it stands, the latter card is better for UB control style play. This is my opinion, I'll play test it, but UB runs maybe 2 creatures MB.
So because you are stubborn, you are going to insist on playing with a worse card? Ok, guess we're done with this discussion.
Stubborn has it's benefits, stand your ground when it's necessary. I have a play test group, we'll give it a shot, talk about but this card doesn't scream MB top 60 for me yet. It's not a starter on team UB get it? He's a sub on the bench waiting to see if hes worth casting. At 6, 4 cards could be a poweruful effect, the mana curve would be stupidly higher than it currently is, hence why UB control can durdle and not get it's double BB or UU in time to save itself.
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Not hitting rhino by itself is enough reason why ultimate price won't be replacing cut.
It's a opportunty+, which makes it a rare, since opportunity is already a constructed worthy uncommon. This is as boring as downfall or char. Utility rare never pleases people, but they tendo to be good nonetheless.
It's not bad, but I've got no idea why it needed a rare slot.
Because draw 4 effects are busted in Limited. MaRo has a rule 'nothing more powerful in Limited than Mahamoti Djinn can be uncommon'. This card is a windmill slam first pick even if Mahamoti Djinn were in the same pack.
M14 would have been a much much much better draft format if Opportunity was made rare.
It's not bad, but I've got no idea why it needed a rare slot.
Because draw 4 effects are busted in Limited. MaRo has a rule 'nothing more powerful in Limited than Mahamoti Djinn can be uncommon'. This card is a windmill slam first pick even if Mahamoti Djinn were in the same pack.
M14 would have been a much much much better draft format if Opportunity was made rare.
There are so many things wrong with this statement.
Maro has little to no input on power level of cards in limited. He is design, not development.
Opportunity was reprinted at uncommon like 2 years ago, and while good, not remotely busted.
It's not bad, but I've got no idea why it needed a rare slot.
Because draw 4 effects are busted in Limited. MaRo has a rule 'nothing more powerful in Limited than Mahamoti Djinn can be uncommon'. This card is a windmill slam first pick even if Mahamoti Djinn were in the same pack.
M14 would have been a much much much better draft format if Opportunity was made rare.
There are so many things wrong with this statement.
Maro has little to no input on power level of cards in limited. He is design, not development.
Opportunity was reprinted at uncommon like 2 years ago, and while good, not remotely busted.
This is rare because it is "complicated."
Opportunity was a windmill slam first pick in draft over many of the rare bombs in the set. It wasn't a 'very good uncommon' like Pyrotechnics that got first picked often but was fair, it was a bomb. Cards like Overrun, Mind Control and the like have been moved out of uncommon deliberately by WotC recently, and Opportunity in M14 was the last time they screwed up and put one at uncommon.
Also MaRo was the one that conveyed that rule in an article. It's a development rule.
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Assuming this is playable, that's another point in favor of Dragonlord Ojutai as control's go-to finisher.
It's generally slurred into "perogative." Similarly, "probably" is generally slurred into "probly" or, even worse, "prolly."
People omitting the first "r"? How suprising!
With the reprint of Ultimate price, I don't think that many people will run Murderous Cut, at least as long as the theros block is standard legal. Some people might run this card, but I think it's an incredibly boring rare that I might run out of necessity somewhere down the line if they don't print any other good card drawing spells.
requirement: Run a Dragon/ S Plural (Silumgar seems very Meh to play as a finisher for control decks. Control tends to run 1-2 creatures to win, with Planeswalkers as other win cons/ or grindclock? lol) this card is...oh I think it's a funny card. Jace's Ingenuity can save UB turn 5 when it needs to draw. This? If I'm drawing on Turn 6 for cards I'm usually dead in this format, besides, they do know how hard it is to hit a land drop every turn? This will go off turn 7 if you're lucky.
IN the mirror match? MAYBE.
Modern: Decks I'm playing right now:
G Mono Green Tron (34-10-3 paper record, only SCG/Regionals/PPTQ record)
C Eldrazi Tron (9-5)
UG Infect
RW Burn
Somebody has never played with Opportunity, a card that was played in every Standard format it was legal, including when Revelation was legal.
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Modern: Decks I'm playing right now:
G Mono Green Tron (34-10-3 paper record, only SCG/Regionals/PPTQ record)
C Eldrazi Tron (9-5)
UG Infect
RW Burn
KTK and FRF rotate spring 2016, DTK and Magic Origins rotate Fall 2016.
(Man I hope stores are going to be prepared for a lot of people accidentally playing illegal decks for when Tears Gameday rolls around)
Why exactly do you need to have a dragon in hand to cast this?
It's an instant, so you can leave up mana for Negate/Disdainful Stroke and still cast this.
If you're having problems hitting your land drops in U/B control, you should probably rethink how you have built your deck, cause that's not a problem with the spells in your deck, it's a problem with the number of lands in your deck.
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Modern: Decks I'm playing right now:
G Mono Green Tron (34-10-3 paper record, only SCG/Regionals/PPTQ record)
C Eldrazi Tron (9-5)
UG Infect
RW Burn
So because you are stubborn, you are going to insist on playing with a worse card? Ok, guess we're done with this discussion.
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Modern: Decks I'm playing right now:
G Mono Green Tron (34-10-3 paper record, only SCG/Regionals/PPTQ record)
C Eldrazi Tron (9-5)
UG Infect
RW Burn
Standard: lol no
Modern: BG/x, UR/x, Burn, Merfolk, Zoo, Storm
Legacy: Shardless BUG, Delver (BUG, RUG, Grixis), Landstill, Depths Combo, Merfolk
Vintage: Dark Times, BUG Fish, Merfolk
EDH: Teysa, Orzhov Scion / Krenko, Mob Boss / Stonebrow, Krosan Hero
It's a opportunty+, which makes it a rare, since opportunity is already a constructed worthy uncommon. This is as boring as downfall or char. Utility rare never pleases people, but they tendo to be good nonetheless.
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Because draw 4 effects are busted in Limited. MaRo has a rule 'nothing more powerful in Limited than Mahamoti Djinn can be uncommon'. This card is a windmill slam first pick even if Mahamoti Djinn were in the same pack.
M14 would have been a much much much better draft format if Opportunity was made rare.
There are so many things wrong with this statement.
Maro has little to no input on power level of cards in limited. He is design, not development.
Opportunity was reprinted at uncommon like 2 years ago, and while good, not remotely busted.
This is rare because it is "complicated."
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Opportunity was a windmill slam first pick in draft over many of the rare bombs in the set. It wasn't a 'very good uncommon' like Pyrotechnics that got first picked often but was fair, it was a bomb. Cards like Overrun, Mind Control and the like have been moved out of uncommon deliberately by WotC recently, and Opportunity in M14 was the last time they screwed up and put one at uncommon.
Also MaRo was the one that conveyed that rule in an article. It's a development rule.