Man, if she didn't say non-token, she would have been so fun as a Commander, she could even have costed one more mana and I wouldn't mind. I guess good monocolored commanders just aren't in white's colour pie.
she would be completly busted if it would not say "non-token". can you imagine how powerful she would be in a token deck then?
turn 2 her.. then hordeling outburst and you get 4 2/2 on turn 3...
Man, if she didn't say non-token, she would have been so fun as a Commander, she could even have costed one more mana and I wouldn't mind. I guess good monocolored commanders just aren't in white's colour pie.
she would be completly busted if it would not say "non-token". can you imagine how powerful she would be in a token deck then?
turn 2 her.. then hordeling outburst and you get 4 2/2 on turn 3...
She'd be strong, yeah, but I don't think busted. Maybe good enough to encourage people to run Anger of the Gods.
Man, if she didn't say non-token, she would have been so fun as a Commander, she could even have costed one more mana and I wouldn't mind. I guess good monocolored commanders just aren't in white's colour pie.
she would be completly busted if it would not say "non-token". can you imagine how powerful she would be in a token deck then?
turn 2 her.. then hordeling outburst and you get 4 2/2 on turn 3...
She'd be strong, yeah, but I don't think busted. Maybe good enough to encourage people to run Anger of the Gods.
dude just think about it wtf. hordeling outburst would make 3 2/2 tokens on turn 3, with her out. that is more than busted, that is more like broken beyond believe.
still strong even with the nontoken clause. The ability to constantly Bolster will mean your army is just growing by playing more creatures, although she is likely to be the first one bolstered.
still strong even with the nontoken clause. The ability to constantly Bolster will mean your army is just growing by playing more creatures, although she is likely to be the first one bolstered.
Pretty sure we call that "over extending." When a creature is only good if you dump your entire hand on the table it's not going to tickle a lot of peoples' fancies.
depends on the type your playing in (playing 1 creature a turn is not always over extending, you cause you can keep mana up for tricks), but thats a strategic discussion not related to the card. My original point stands.
Man, if she didn't say non-token, she would have been so fun as a Commander, she could even have costed one more mana and I wouldn't mind. I guess good monocolored commanders just aren't in white's colour pie.
she would be completly busted if it would not say "non-token". can you imagine how powerful she would be in a token deck then?
turn 2 her.. then hordeling outburst and you get 4 2/2 on turn 3...
That's honestly not that impressive. But I did say I wouldn't mind if she costed one more.
Seems a little...niche? When was the last time W/x weenie was a viable strategy, Lorwyn block?
I'm more interested in the flavor ramifications; if the Abzan Dromoka were banned from practicing necromancy but can still be protected by spirits, is there hope for some enemy-color aspects of the other clans to be preserved?
My thoughts exactly. As per Daghatar's command, all kin-trees should have been destroyed 1280 years ago, so where is she dwelling? How it is possible that the very culture of the kin-trees was not eradicated?
Neat little card, referring both Anafenza and Fruit of the First Tree (by art).
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Wonder what Surrak is going to be like? Dragon poop?
He's called the Hunt Caller on one of the Ugin's Fate cards, plus he punched a dragon in the face. Should hopefully still be badass. Will be interesting to see what his inevitable Formidable ability will be.
Wonder what Surrak is going to be like? Dragon poop?
He's called the Hunt Caller on one of the Ugin's Fate cards, plus he punched a dragon in the face. Should hopefully still be badass. Will be interesting to see what his inevitable Formidable ability will be.
Inevitable? Well, Taigam will hardly have rebound...but I admit that it is quite possible they will stick the clan abilities on the "khans" of DTK. For Zurgo, Anafenza and Sidisi it is true.
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Wonder what Surrak is going to be like? Dragon poop?
He's called the Hunt Caller on one of the Ugin's Fate cards, plus he punched a dragon in the face. Should hopefully still be badass. Will be interesting to see what his inevitable Formidable ability will be.
Inevitable? Well, Taigam will hardly have rebound...but I admit that it is quite possible they will stick the clan abilities on the "khans" of DTK. For Zurgo, Anafenza and Sidisi it is true.
Narset can give cards rebound so the 4 of the KTK Khans do actually have the clan mechanic on them.
As for Taigam, I was thinking maybe he has a diluvian primordial type ability only it's your graveyard only. (that cuts a little close to snapcaster though)
dude just think about it wtf. hordeling outburst would make 3 2/2 tokens on turn 3, with her out. that is more than busted, that is more like broken beyond believe.
You could get three 2/2s with Shared Triumph and Hordeling Outburst on turn three, and that's far from broken. Having an additional 2/2 is better, yes, but not broken beyond belief. In some ways Foundry Street Denizen is superior.
she would be completly busted if it would not say "non-token". can you imagine how powerful she would be in a token deck then?
turn 2 her.. then hordeling outburst and you get 4 2/2 on turn 3...
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She'd be strong, yeah, but I don't think busted. Maybe good enough to encourage people to run Anger of the Gods.
dude just think about it wtf. hordeling outburst would make 3 2/2 tokens on turn 3, with her out. that is more than busted, that is more like broken beyond believe.
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My thoughts exactly. As per Daghatar's command, all kin-trees should have been destroyed 1280 years ago, so where is she dwelling? How it is possible that the very culture of the kin-trees was not eradicated?
Neat little card, referring both Anafenza and Fruit of the First Tree (by art).
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He's called the Hunt Caller on one of the Ugin's Fate cards, plus he punched a dragon in the face. Should hopefully still be badass. Will be interesting to see what his inevitable Formidable ability will be.
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Inevitable? Well, Taigam will hardly have rebound...but I admit that it is quite possible they will stick the clan abilities on the "khans" of DTK. For Zurgo, Anafenza and Sidisi it is true.
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Probably not since it would usually be Norin getting the counter lol
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WHY!!!!
Narset can give cards rebound so the 4 of the KTK Khans do actually have the clan mechanic on them.
As for Taigam, I was thinking maybe he has a diluvian primordial type ability only it's your graveyard only. (that cuts a little close to snapcaster though)
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You could get three 2/2s with Shared Triumph and Hordeling Outburst on turn three, and that's far from broken. Having an additional 2/2 is better, yes, but not broken beyond belief. In some ways Foundry Street Denizen is superior.
You don't need anything special to make this a solid card. You just need to play creatures.
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