Narseeeeeeeet! I love the idea of abusing her -2 with board wipes... Also cute with shenanigans like Traumatize (dat curve) or Brainstorm for that +...
Anyone have any idea how difficult Narset will be able to obtain? She's so awesome I nearly dropped my coffee when I saw her as a UW Planeswalker with that amazing art. 4 CMC for 6 Loyalty and a great +1? Going right into my Ephara EDH. Hope she's not like $50+ Though....
She is nowhere near $50 good.
Depending on how things go, and the next block. I could DEFINITELY see her reaching near $50 in standard. After she rotates out I'm fairly sure she'll be at the $20 mark for quite a while.
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For this to happen, she would have to find a permanent home in a modern deck, and DTK would have to be a poor selling set.
You sure realise that you might very well be the only person who'd follow the statement "Dragons, Dragons..EVERYWHERE, Dragons." with an eye-roll, right?
I'm calling it right now- worst rare in the set. Even good limited players will find better bombs at common and uncommon no sweat. Worst. Episode. Ever.
I really do predict this to be our worst rare in set award winner. I'd be happier opening a jar of eyeballs, so I think anything worse is highly unlikely. This card wont just have zero constructed potential, but not be significantly better than a mass of ghouls in a draft.
It's less exciting, but it's also pretty tactically useful to use that ability with a sweeper, so that you don't immediately fall behind on the board again (as well as cleaning up Bestowed creatures and the like).
end hostilities already cleans up bestow creatures
You sure realise that you might very well be the only person who'd follow the statement "Dragons, Dragons..EVERYWHERE, Dragons." with an eye-roll, right?
Not everyone likes overcosted, unplayable creatures lol
Dragons are super unexciting.
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You sure realise that you might very well be the only person who'd follow the statement "Dragons, Dragons..EVERYWHERE, Dragons." with an eye-roll, right?
Not the only one. 20 hurfdurfs is one set is a lot. 20 hurfdurfs with dragon creature type AND the normal array of slow fat makes me roll my eyes too.
I see $30 to start since nobody seems to know how to judge these things in the Post Mind Sculptor world AND
Then, she'll drop to $7 by the time she rotates out of standard. She's missing a lot of things that make planeswalkers valuable even if people don't see it now. The ONLY things she has going for her inflated value are 1) 3rd sets are always under printed compared to 1st, and 2) fans already like the character.
I see $30 to start since nobody seems to know how to judge these things in the Post Mind Sculptor world AND
Then, she'll drop to $7 by the time she rotates out of standard. She's missing a lot of things that make planeswalkers valuable even if people don't see it now. The ONLY things she has going for her inflated value are 1) 3rd sets are always under printed compared to 1st, and 2) fans already like the character.
Ugh, I recently sold off all my Elspeths and other UW standard goodies, and now this comes along? Oh well, the good news is I sold all of that off for UWR in Modern. Narset might just be good enough.
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No you won't. That's not how Rebound works.
Yes, in fact, it does. You -2 her rebounding time warp. You get your extra turn immediately and time warp's rebound delayed trigger works and Time Warp goes to the yard. Then, on the same turn or on the next one, you snap it back from the graveyard.
Ehh, Narset is okay. Her 6 starting loyalty is very nice, but her abilities don't protect her whatsoever. But there are planeswalkers that have become popular that aren't able to.
I wish my 4/4s with haste and first strike that acted as Goblin Warchiefs were better and didn't die to instants and overshadowed all other 4 drops in the format. And that they had evasion too, and some way to dodge wrath effects.
When anyone says this about highly conditional Planeswalkers 3 minutes after they spoil, I get this bad feeling that we are looking at a polished turd. The fact that she does nothing on her own is a reason to be weary. 4 mana for the deck that seems to naturally want this card is a lot - especially at sorcery speed with little to no impact for an entire turn.
2. it is very hard to kill, so you will often be able to play it into an empty board then wrath
3. it has cool art
It is very, very strong. C
How exactly does it combo with lands?
You activate her +1 and if your top card is a land or a creature you don't want (say, a finisher you don't want to draw yet) then you can crack a fetch to shuffle it away
2. it is very hard to kill, so you will often be able to play it into an empty board then wrath
3. it has cool art
It is very, very strong. C
How exactly does it combo with lands?
If you don't like what you see with Narset, you can shuffle it away with by cracking a fetch. Alternatively, if you scry first you have a better chance of Narset's +1 hitting something.
As someone who plays Modern almost exclusively, this set, Narset in particular, is awakening a desire to play Standard again. I am digging this set a great deal more then Fate Reforged thus far.
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2. it is very hard to kill, so you will often be able to play it into an empty board then wrath
3. it has cool art
It is very, very strong. C
How exactly does it combo with lands?
You activate her +1 and if your top card is a land or a creature you don't want (say, a finisher you don't want to draw yet) then you can crack a fetch to shuffle it away
You activate her +1 and if your top card is a land or a creature you don't want (say, a finisher you don't want to draw yet) then you can crack a fetch to shuffle it away
So, you just paid 4 mana a 1 life to shuffle away a card you don't want to draw a random card the next time you draw. Maybe it's just because I haven't played standard in years, but is Standard really that inefficient now? The card advantage will, in all likelihood, take 3-4 turns to hit +1.... for FOUR mana. That's brutal.
R Feldon of the Third Path EDH R
X Kozilek, the Great Distortion EDH X
B Sidisi Ad Nauseam Combo EDH B
For this to happen, she would have to find a permanent home in a modern deck, and DTK would have to be a poor selling set.
UR Blue-Red Control
Modern:
UBR Grixis Control
UWR Jeskai Control
You sure realise that you might very well be the only person who'd follow the statement "Dragons, Dragons..EVERYWHERE, Dragons." with an eye-roll, right?
end hostilities already cleans up bestow creatures
Am anxiously awaiting the DD for Tarkir. I hope one of them would be Ugin though.
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Not everyone likes overcosted, unplayable creatures lol
Dragons are super unexciting.
If we really do get Scroll Rack back it will be amazing.
Dragonlord's Servant will make a lot of tribal players happy.
Foe-Razer Regant will be a sweet limited card.
I am not entirely sure what to think of Scaleguard Sentinels.
Will Dragon Fodder replace Hordeling Outburst in Standard?
Evolving Wilds probably means no enemy fetchlands.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
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1. it combos perfectly with fetchlands and scry
2. it is very hard to kill, so you will often be able to play it when you have an empty board and then wrath
3. it has cool art
It is very, very strong. C
How exactly does it combo with lands?
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That works, I think. A rebounded spell heads off to the graveyard after it rebounds the next turn, so it can be snapcastered then.
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UBRMarchesa, the Black RoseUBR
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Thinning / scrying I suppose. IDK. I mean, all cards combo with lands lol
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Narset -2, cast Time Warp. Upon resolution it's exiled. Pass turn.
Time warp is cast for free from exile on upkeep, then goes to the graveyard. Cast snappy targeting Time Warp.
I think that's what he was getting at, and it is indeed how that works.
I'm sure he's referencing the ability to manipulate the top of your deck so her +1 is more valuable.
No you won't. Rebound skips their mana cost, so Rev will be 0.
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she draws a card the turn you play her.
You activate her +1 and if your top card is a land or a creature you don't want (say, a finisher you don't want to draw yet) then you can crack a fetch to shuffle it away
If you don't like what you see with Narset, you can shuffle it away with by cracking a fetch. Alternatively, if you scry first you have a better chance of Narset's +1 hitting something.
Pseudo-scry, I like this
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
That does nothing. Sphinx's Rev would be recast at X=0.
She works with Entwine and Kicker, though.
So, you just paid 4 mana a 1 life to shuffle away a card you don't want to draw a random card the next time you draw. Maybe it's just because I haven't played standard in years, but is Standard really that inefficient now? The card advantage will, in all likelihood, take 3-4 turns to hit +1.... for FOUR mana. That's brutal.
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