I'm curious if he considers the mono-colored creatures with hybrid off-color activated abilities (e.g. Tasigur, Monastery Mentor, etc) to be "wedge" cards in any way. Strictly speaking, they aren't, but they are for, say, Commander purposes.
In any case, I don't think that a single wedge-colored planeswalker card at Mythic rarity would in any way disqualify DTK from "not being a wedge set".
Except there were people moaning that Worldwake was "too much multicolor" when all it had was Wrexial, Novablast Wurm, the manlands, and the Loam Lion cycle as the only remotely multicolored cards in the set. I'm pretty sure those same people raised a stink when Sarkhan the Mad was spoiled as the only multicolored card in Rise of the Eldrazi, as well.
Those people better suck it up, as we are unlikely to have a set with less multicolor than Innistrad anytime soon.
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Yeah, multicolour has been stated to be made a mechanic to help limited and that we should expect some multicolour uncommons and rares in each set. Theros (the set) was as monocolour as you can go, and had them.
I'm calling it right now- worst rare in the set. Even good limited players will find better bombs at common and uncommon no sweat. Worst. Episode. Ever.
I really do predict this to be our worst rare in set award winner. I'd be happier opening a jar of eyeballs, so I think anything worse is highly unlikely. This card wont just have zero constructed potential, but not be significantly better than a mass of ghouls in a draft.
I like the amount of multicolor we saw in Theros. If there's a spectrum of Theros at the minimum amount of gold and Khans as the maximum amount, I'm a happy camper. Some of the gold designs in the last two sets have been really elegant: Prophet of Kruphix, Master the Way, Harsh Sustenance, Nyx Weaver.
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Agreed. I am on the side of "not enough" when it comes to multicolor. I enjoy multicolor formats because of the openness of archetypes. Monocolor formats are linear and boring.
Maro is not saying "There will be no gold cards in wedge colors".
It's just that when he says it isn't a wedge set and people then go on to ask "But will there be wedges?" and "I know you said no wedge set...but maybe a bunch of wedge cycles?" it sounds like children who won't accept no.
I DON'T think that necessarily says that your WUR Narset can't happen or Ramaz (whoever that is). I would just expect 0-2 at max. And do you think he would really say "Well, there won't be any wedge cards...except a wedge colored planeswalker!" Of course not.
Doug Beyer said that "A person calling himself Sarkhan" would be on Alara and interacting with Bolas etc.
So I guess this at least opens up the possibility that Sarkhan Vol loses his spark and that there is another Sarkhan (not named Vol) in this new timeline. Seems fishy though, if only for game mechanics reasons: Sarkhan Vol is a planeswalker of type sarkhan. So there is a new Sarkhan that uses the Sarkhan title, but gets another planeswalker type? Sounds confusing.
If anything, I think the most logical answer is that there are now two Sarkhans: The first is the planeswalker, who no longer "exists" because he is a paradox. The streak of blue hair could symbolize that he is an anomaly. The second is the individual that exists in the new timeline, not necessarily a planeswalker, but an individual who never knew the old Tarkir.
Wizards has, in the past, stated that they like having a color balance for a block's planeswalkers. Unless Narset is somehow green, chances are that Sarkhan will be RG. It also makes sense for him to be Atarka because that likely aligns with his own desire of worshiping a powerful dragon.
First of all Narset is still not confirmed to be a walker and the comments about her inner greater potential could just be that she masters somehow the sixth fire (Ghostfire, opposed to soulfire, mistfire , bloodfire & else), what could mean she and the jeskai-replacement faction will have colorless with colorful manacost as their thing, or just her being a colorless card.
Second, Maro stated in November there will be 5 planeswalkers in KTK block, but he never said 5 cards so if 2 Sarkhans it is possible we have a 6th walker.
I would hate if he ends up RG because that would mean 3 blocks in a row with an RG walker, plus the fact that Theros had 3 green walkers and M15 had both Garruk and Nissa. Green does not need a walker in the block, although if there isn't any that would mean next block shall revolve on Garruk's returning to green...
I personally believe and hope it will be BR Sarkhan, U Narset and possibly a RUG Ramaz if Maro's comments have to be interpreted as a 'we are getting 5 walkers, one of them twice".
The reason for the heavy green emphasis on Theros is because, according to MaRo, Theros is a world that is primarily green and secondarily white. The planeswalkers reflect that. Despite that, though, all five colors were represented on planeswalker cards in that block. In fact, the only block thus far that has not featured a color on planeswalkers is Scars of Mirrodin, which did not have a green 'walker.
Tarkir is a world that is primarily red, so I think expecting Sarkhan 2.0 and/or Narset to be part red is logical.
Theros is primarily Green? How the heck did I not see that?! The focus on destiny. The idea that people are what they already are. The relative power of natural forces personified in the forms of the Gods? That's really cool to think about (even though the Soul of Theros is White to personify the heroic/selfless aspects of the world. Hmmmmm. So this explains the mindset that created the concepts of the souls for the various worlds... What gives you the idea that Tarkir is primarily red (since we don't have a Soul of Tarkir? I'm not trying to disprove your point. I'm actually curious.
Theros is primarily Green? How the heck did I not see that?! The focus on destiny. The idea that people are what they already are. The relative power of natural forces personified in the forms of the Gods? That's really cool to think about (even though the Soul of Theros is White to personify the heroic/selfless aspects of the world. Hmmmmm. So this explains the mindset that created the concepts of the souls for the various worlds... What gives you the idea that Tarkir is primarily red (since we don't have a Soul of Tarkir? I'm not trying to disprove your point. I'm actually curious.
The Souls are a six-card cycle (I'll explain in a second how), where each card embodies one of the five worlds from Magic 2015—Duels of the Planeswalkers, plus an additional one. Originally, there was just going to be a five-card cycle, but the design team figured out it could also make an artifact Soul, and made it for New Phyrexia. For a while, the team was contemplating making the red soul the Soul of Tarkir, the setting of the next block, but it was decided instead to use it to represent Shandalar. The souls are all six-mana 6/6 Avatars that have a creature keyword, an activated ability, and a second activated ability that can be used once out of your graveyard (the creature exiles itself to use it).
Chianul knows Sarkhan. He's aware of him. He was aware of the alternate timeline. According to the Guide to Tarkir he thought he needed to meet Sarkhan, but Narset ended up doing that and we never encountered him.
So, if Chianul thought he was gonna meet Sarkhan, and he knew about the alternate timeline, could it be that he was muddling the timelines in his visions? So, the "needed to meet Sarkhan" is only true now, after FRF. So he could show up as a Legendary character perhaps, and he may be helping Sarkhan sort out his mess in DTK.
Admirable thought, but the Guide seems to suggest otherwise.
Chianul, Who Whispers Twice: Chianul is old for a Temur, around fifty. (Life tends to be short due to a harsh environment and nearly constant warfare.) He was the One Who Whispers Twice when Surrak assumed the mantle of Dragonclaw, and he has seen another version of the "now" in which dragons are ascendant, leading the humans. Sarkhan Vol spent some time with Chianul as a young man, learning about his visions, voices, and knowledge of dragons. The old shaman recently led a Wide Whisper that revealed what he called a "weak point in the multiple nows." He believes Sarkhan needs to accompany him to this location to assist with a ritual that will "heal the now."
Hm...come to think of it, maybe the reason it didn't happen is that the Temur who encountered Sorin spread the word that he encountered a stranger who just disappeared after arriving at the "Weak Point In Multiple Nows." And the others just shrugged and gave up.
Right now I think everything points to Sarkhan being Jund. His mind has been healed, he's had the epiphany that trying to find a someone powerful to follow is keeping him from realizing his own true potential, he's finally at peace with himself and his place in the world. Making him BRG makes perfect sense, and it also shows the merging of his previous BR and RG aspects.
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Actually I believed that Sarkhan was just mono red all along. His desire to see dragons, and in some ways wanting to compete with the very biggest and baddest felt very Gruul in nature.
That green in him was gone when he fell in servitude to Bolas, which obviously drove him a lil mad, and a lil black.
Being monocolor, from a gameplay perspective, helps his "castability". I think we also need to acknowledge from a development standpoint. Especially in limited.
Actually I believed that Sarkhan was just mono red all along. His desire to see dragons, and in some ways wanting to compete with the very biggest and baddest felt very Gruul in nature.
That green in him was gone when he fell in servitude to Bolas, which obviously drove him a lil mad, and a lil black.
Being monocolor, from a gameplay perspective, helps his "castability". I think we also need to acknowledge from a development standpoint. Especially in limited.
I see Sarkhan being RRBG in the same way Ajani is WWRG
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There is no real black in Sarkhan, IMO. The reason Sarkhan the Mad is black is both because of Bolas corrupting and manipulating him, as well as Sarkhan being driven mad by the voice of Ugin, causing him to act out of character.
It's allied colours for this set so a RW Sarkhan wouldn't exist and I don't think his name would be Sarkhan either because part of that name is forbidden. He is either RG or RB or R. And that's if they print him on a card this set. They could just have him on card art but not give him a walker card.
I must have missed the confirmation that DTK is allied. Why do people keep stating this as fact?
Also, the storyline ties very heavily onto cards. To cut a long story short, the wedges dumped the opposing clan color for various reasons. Sarkhan's actions changed the history of Tarkir. The dragons were victorious/successful in their pursuits.
My guess is also that dragons are probably coexisting and cooperating with the people. Back to clan fights. But this time with the aid of dragons.
Because the brood watermarks are associated with allied color pairs. Adding more to them would be like making a RGW card with the Boros watermark (extremely unlikely). And since there will be no clans in DTK and the broods are what we get instead, allied it will be.
That is conjecture. Ugin's Fate showed two different possibilities of what could have happened. The Fate Reforged cards had Clan watermarks.
Also notice that the dragon brood are very monocolored, even in their abilities. The Dragon Mothers don't even really play into their allied color. Dromoka is very white (is there even any green?), Ojutai is extremely blue and maybe a little white, Silumgar has zero blue except for the hexproof, Kolaghan has zero Black and in fact the Uncharted Realms article exhibits no black, and Atarka is shown as big green fatty with no red.
As it stands there is just as much chance as DTK being moncolored as Allied. In fact, due to the very small amount of allied cards in FRF (legends only) it may be extremely difficult to base a draft strategy around Allied pairs. Note all gold cards were enemy cards in FRF so they wouldn't fit well at all with DTK if it were allied. Harsh Sustenance, War Flare, Cunning Strike, Ethereal Ambush, and Grim Contest would be garbage cards in a FRF/DTK/DTK draft or even in the prerelease.
Because the brood watermarks are associated with allied color pairs. Adding more to them would be like making a RGW card with the Boros watermark (extremely unlikely). And since there will be no clans in DTK and the broods are what we get instead, allied it will be.
That is conjecture. Ugin's Fate showed two different possibilities of what could have happened. The Fate Reforged cards had Clan watermarks.
Also notice that the dragon brood are very monocolored, even in their abilities. The Dragon Mothers don't even really play into their allied color. Dromoka is very white (is there even any green?), Ojutai is extremely blue and maybe a little white, Silumgar has zero blue except for the hexproof, Kolaghan has zero Black and in fact the Uncharted Realms article exhibits no black, and Atarka is shown as big green fatty with no red.
As it stands there is just as much chance as DTK being moncolored as Allied. In fact, due to the very small amount of allied cards in FRF (legends only) it may be extremely difficult to base a draft strategy around Allied pairs. Note all gold cards were enemy cards in FRF so they wouldn't fit well at all with DTK if it were allied. Harsh Sustenance, War Flare, Cunning Strike, Ethereal Ambush, and Grim Contest would be garbage cards in a FRF/DTK/DTK draft or even in the prerelease.
Oh right because blue can have vigilance and Green can have Double Strike. I'll agree that the brood leans towards one color more then the other that doesn't mean they will be mono-colored, the clans where the same way with one color being the "main" color but still where 3 colored. Bolster and Dash are only on in their ally color combos (as well as all the other Clan mechanics), the clans in fate reforged are mostly ally colors and that all the "wedge cards" in fate reforge ( Wandering Champion cycle, Runemark Cycle, Khans Cycle, mythic hybrid cycle) can be played in ally colors and match which broods the clans will become apart of (Abzan Runemark and the other "wedge" cards aligned with Azban are the only ones that can be played in GW decks).
We already know that the enemy cycle was for Khans drafting as well.
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It's just that when he says it isn't a wedge set and people then go on to ask "But will there be wedges?" and "I know you said no wedge set...but maybe a bunch of wedge cycles?" it sounds like children who won't accept no.
I DON'T think that necessarily says that your WUR Narset can't happen or Ramaz (whoever that is). I would just expect 0-2 at max. And do you think he would really say "Well, there won't be any wedge cards...except a wedge colored planeswalker!" Of course not.
Theros is primarily Green? How the heck did I not see that?! The focus on destiny. The idea that people are what they already are. The relative power of natural forces personified in the forms of the Gods? That's really cool to think about (even though the Soul of Theros is White to personify the heroic/selfless aspects of the world. Hmmmmm. So this explains the mindset that created the concepts of the souls for the various worlds... What gives you the idea that Tarkir is primarily red (since we don't have a Soul of Tarkir? I'm not trying to disprove your point. I'm actually curious.
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Admirable thought, but the Guide seems to suggest otherwise.
Chianul, Who Whispers Twice: Chianul is old for a Temur, around fifty. (Life tends to be short due to a harsh environment and nearly constant warfare.) He was the One Who Whispers Twice when Surrak assumed the mantle of Dragonclaw, and he has seen another version of the "now" in which dragons are ascendant, leading the humans. Sarkhan Vol spent some time with Chianul as a young man, learning about his visions, voices, and knowledge of dragons. The old shaman recently led a Wide Whisper that revealed what he called a "weak point in the multiple nows." He believes Sarkhan needs to accompany him to this location to assist with a ritual that will "heal the now."
Hm...come to think of it, maybe the reason it didn't happen is that the Temur who encountered Sorin spread the word that he encountered a stranger who just disappeared after arriving at the "Weak Point In Multiple Nows." And the others just shrugged and gave up.
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That green in him was gone when he fell in servitude to Bolas, which obviously drove him a lil mad, and a lil black.
Being monocolor, from a gameplay perspective, helps his "castability". I think we also need to acknowledge from a development standpoint. Especially in limited.
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I see Sarkhan being RRBG in the same way Ajani is WWRG
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If anything, a walker like Sarkhan wants to be wild and free.
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I must have missed the confirmation that DTK is allied. Why do people keep stating this as fact?
My guess is also that dragons are probably coexisting and cooperating with the people. Back to clan fights. But this time with the aid of dragons.
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That is conjecture. Ugin's Fate showed two different possibilities of what could have happened. The Fate Reforged cards had Clan watermarks.
Also notice that the dragon brood are very monocolored, even in their abilities. The Dragon Mothers don't even really play into their allied color. Dromoka is very white (is there even any green?), Ojutai is extremely blue and maybe a little white, Silumgar has zero blue except for the hexproof, Kolaghan has zero Black and in fact the Uncharted Realms article exhibits no black, and Atarka is shown as big green fatty with no red.
As it stands there is just as much chance as DTK being moncolored as Allied. In fact, due to the very small amount of allied cards in FRF (legends only) it may be extremely difficult to base a draft strategy around Allied pairs. Note all gold cards were enemy cards in FRF so they wouldn't fit well at all with DTK if it were allied. Harsh Sustenance, War Flare, Cunning Strike, Ethereal Ambush, and Grim Contest would be garbage cards in a FRF/DTK/DTK draft or even in the prerelease.
Oh right because blue can have vigilance and Green can have Double Strike. I'll agree that the brood leans towards one color more then the other that doesn't mean they will be mono-colored, the clans where the same way with one color being the "main" color but still where 3 colored. Bolster and Dash are only on in their ally color combos (as well as all the other Clan mechanics), the clans in fate reforged are mostly ally colors and that all the "wedge cards" in fate reforge ( Wandering Champion cycle, Runemark Cycle, Khans Cycle, mythic hybrid cycle) can be played in ally colors and match which broods the clans will become apart of (Abzan Runemark and the other "wedge" cards aligned with Azban are the only ones that can be played in GW decks).
We already know that the enemy cycle was for Khans drafting as well.
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