Is there a specific site/ store I need to preorder it from to get it at MSRP? Thanks all for your reply!
The store that you go to all the time and have a good relationship with. Ask the owner who you know well and they may cut you in on it. If you don't have that kind of relationship than you need to just accept that you are competing with a bunch of other people for a limited product and their money is just as valuable as yours and they are willing to blow $99 on this piece of crap.
Wow so that art isn't twilight shepherd. interesting!
Yeah, I just quickly looked through all the possibilities that first revealed art could be again, and using my best judgment to rule out anything that's either underwhelming, non-iconic, and doesn't fit the flavor of the art, I think my best new prediction may be Karmic Guide.
I'd agree with you that it's possibly the best logical fit now... but smart people do not trust guides with covered faces (angels or not).
As others have supposed, maybe it's Blinding Angel? Haven't seen that reprinted for a while... it's a good 'un...
I'm thinking it's baneslayer because in the art for the original, she's flying through a starry sky (although most of it is obscured by clouds), and while less revealing, the armor is fairly similar. She has a second sword instead of a shield in the new art, and while the blade is thicker in the original, the pommels are similar as well. The veil is the only bit that really throws it off, and combined with the glowing swords, I believe it could also be Blinding Angel, as the glow is coming from near the guard as per the original art for Blinding.
The art totally conflicts with the overall feel for Baneslayer and Blinding Angel tho. With the former looking for more of an "above them" feel with a possible new art and Blinding Angel focusing more on the bright light shebang that the reveal new art lacks.
This removes:
Sigarda and Twilight shepherd from the list. Sorry for those who wanted them reprinted in foil/new art.
I kind of would have liked the 15th spot to be Stoic Angel, but just because I both love the art and the effect and would hav loved having her in foil
I ain't gonna discount Twilight Shepherd yet until that card art is actually revealed, because amongst all the theorized possibilities for the initial reveal art it just matches Twilight Shepherd tons.
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Very happy this isn't Twilight Shepherd! I like this art, but I love the original Twilight Shepherd one (my current wallpaper) and it would feel like a waste to have great art replacing amazing art. Also, Twilight Shepherd got reprinted twice last year.
My guess (and the one I had before Tariel was confirmed) is that this art is for Angel of Despair. It is very different from the original art, but I dunno... it just fits.
Very happy this isn't Twilight Shepherd! I like this art, but I love the original Twilight Shepherd one (my current wallpaper) and it would feel like a waste to have great art replacing amazing art. Also, Twilight Shepherd got reprinted twice last year.
My guess (and the one I had before Tariel was confirmed) is that this art is for Angel of Despair. It is very different from the original art, but I dunno... it just fits.
If that is the case, then I need about 100 of these. I *love* Angel of Despair, and I would greatly like a new art for her!
Now, we just need Linvala... Of course, because thats the only one I really want, that means she won't get printed.
I would be shocked if they printed her because she would, surely, have been one of the "faces" of the set, and we have seen all three of those: White Akroma, Avacyn, and Iona.
Yeah, when I saw that they were printing Iona and Avacyn and there were no further spoilers, I got the creeping feeling that Linvala didn't make the cut. Makes no sense to me, given Iona was just reprinted in MM2, and Linvala foils fetch double that right now.
Oh well, at least my wife gets to enjoy all her new foily additions to her Dan Brown EDH deck.
HA! And here I thought I was the only one with a Dan Brown EDH deck.
I think I might actually have to slot that Tariel into my Kaalia even though her synergy with the deck is lousy. Or I might just make her the new head of the RW Angel deck I started planning when the Akromas got revealed and have Tariel be the only black card in the deck (I don't want more than one deck of each color combo).
I think I might actually have to slot that Tariel into my Kaalia even though her synergy with the deck is lousy. Or I might just make her the new head of the RW Angel deck I started planning when the Akromas got revealed and have Tariel be the only black card in the deck (I don't want more than one deck of each color combo).
.... or you could just not use Tariel.
If she doesn't work, why bother?
Having her in here means cheap Tariels for all !
Haha, I can't agree with this enough. And being that the one plains and mountain is a promo, I myself didn't feel that it was worth going the extra mile to get enough of them to make a deck out of them. Also, the great wall theme for the plains does admittedly feel a bit out of place from the rest of the deck. I remember back in the day also always wishing that she'd be able to be the one draw any type of Wrath of God variant, but I've always known that's asking for a bit much.
I'd say it's obvious they should've had her do an island (because art aside, I'm not playing Saprazzan Cove) and a forest, at least, back when she worked for Wizards. (And a plains for something other than a rare promo.) Though it is funny to refer to her plains as "Great Wall (the one people actually care about)".
I think I might actually have to slot that Tariel into my Kaalia even though her synergy with the deck is lousy. Or I might just make her the new head of the RW Angel deck I started planning when the Akromas got revealed and have Tariel be the only black card in the deck (I don't want more than one deck of each color combo).
.... or you could just not use Tariel.
If she doesn't work, why bother?
Having her in here means cheap Tariels for all !
Tariel is *****ty as a commander in my experience, but actually playable as one of the 99 in Kaalia. Not the best pick, though. (You're more likely to use those "must cheat into play" slots for Avacyn or Iona.)
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Tariel is hard to make work properly, she does require a different gameplan from what you'd expect from Mardu. Makes her interesting to me. Been planning to get a Tariel deck for a while now.
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Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
Very happy this isn't Twilight Shepherd! I like this art, but I love the original Twilight Shepherd one (my current wallpaper) and it would feel like a waste to have great art replacing amazing art. Also, Twilight Shepherd got reprinted twice last year.
Agree with you here. I'm still upset WOTC did this with Explore. I love the original AND the new one from the Kiora Duel Deck. Was hoping that art was Spreading Seas instead of a new art Explore. How can I choose?
Very happy this isn't Twilight Shepherd! I like this art, but I love the original Twilight Shepherd one (my current wallpaper) and it would feel like a waste to have great art replacing amazing art. Also, Twilight Shepherd got reprinted twice last year.
Agree with you here. I'm still upset WOTC did this with Explore. I love the original AND the new one from the Kiora Duel Deck. Was hoping that art was Spreading Seas instead of a new art Explore. How can I choose?
Build another deck and use both?
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Less possible
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Looking back at my prediction from Feb 17 I am happy that I have gotten a few right and at least called it not being Twilight Shepard. I rearranged the order
Yeah, at this point Avacyn seems to be the #1 money card. Though with Iona, the two Akromas, Tariel and new art Serra, this set is already looking much better then FTV Annihilation value wise.
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Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
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Am I the only one bothered by the inclusion of Serra Angel? I feel that after the final list is revealed it will prove to be a card that took the place of a better angel. I understand the historical aspect of Serra Angel, but it was even downgraded from rare to common and it basically appeared in almost every core set. I feel very cheated.
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Am I the only one bothered by the inclusion of Serra Angel? I feel that after the final list is revealed it will prove to be a card that took the place of a better angel. I understand the historical aspect of Serra Angel, but it was even downgraded from rare to common and it basically appeared in almost every core set. I feel very cheated.
What do you expect? Not every card can be money, or even a rare for that matter. From the Vault products are meant to showcase their themes and there is not a single Angel in Magic who even comes close to the iconic level of Serra Angel. It would be a sin not to include her.
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Am I the only one bothered by the inclusion of Serra Angel? I feel that after the final list is revealed it will prove to be a card that took the place of a better angel. I understand the historical aspect of Serra Angel, but it was even downgraded from rare to common and it basically appeared in almost every core set. I feel very cheated.
It is a throwback to nostalgia They had shiv in ftv dragons and they will probably have lord of the pit in demons (if they make one). Its a fine choice as people collect her.
I was actually referring to the people who were listing Archangel as a potential inclusion at #6. #5 being Avacyn, Angel of Hope means that #6 must be alphabetically after "Av".
Not too much longer to wait until I can find out if they've put in Fallen Angel. Though Angel of Despair being the new card would make me squee.
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The store that you go to all the time and have a good relationship with. Ask the owner who you know well and they may cut you in on it. If you don't have that kind of relationship than you need to just accept that you are competing with a bunch of other people for a limited product and their money is just as valuable as yours and they are willing to blow $99 on this piece of crap.
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I'd agree with you that it's possibly the best logical fit now... but smart people do not trust guides with covered faces (angels or not).
As others have supposed, maybe it's Blinding Angel? Haven't seen that reprinted for a while... it's a good 'un...
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A bit conflicted with her included (her and Avacyn) as I have them both already. But oh well.
The art totally conflicts with the overall feel for Baneslayer and Blinding Angel tho. With the former looking for more of an "above them" feel with a possible new art and Blinding Angel focusing more on the bright light shebang that the reveal new art lacks.
I ain't gonna discount Twilight Shepherd yet until that card art is actually revealed, because amongst all the theorized possibilities for the initial reveal art it just matches Twilight Shepherd tons.
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My guess (and the one I had before Tariel was confirmed) is that this art is for Angel of Despair. It is very different from the original art, but I dunno... it just fits.
If that is the case, then I need about 100 of these. I *love* Angel of Despair, and I would greatly like a new art for her!
HA! And here I thought I was the only one with a Dan Brown EDH deck.
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.... or you could just not use Tariel.
If she doesn't work, why bother?
Having her in here means cheap Tariels for all !
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I'd say it's obvious they should've had her do an island (because art aside, I'm not playing Saprazzan Cove) and a forest, at least, back when she worked for Wizards. (And a plains for something other than a rare promo.) Though it is funny to refer to her plains as "Great Wall (the one people actually care about)".
It is nice to upgrade from Starlit Angel to Serra Angel tho.
I'm actually surprised we're getting Tariel.
Tariel is *****ty as a commander in my experience, but actually playable as one of the 99 in Kaalia. Not the best pick, though. (You're more likely to use those "must cheat into play" slots for Avacyn or Iona.)
On phasing:
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
Agree with you here. I'm still upset WOTC did this with Explore. I love the original AND the new one from the Kiora Duel Deck. Was hoping that art was Spreading Seas instead of a new art Explore. How can I choose?
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Cards I still want to see created:
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Build another deck and use both?
I use the WWK printing of Nature's Claim in my Modern Infect deck,
and the CNS printing in my Titan Bloom deck.
Reprint Stasis!
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Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
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Looking back at my prediction from Feb 17 I am happy that I have gotten a few right and at least called it not being Twilight Shepard. I rearranged the order
1. Akroma, Angel of Fury Red Angel, Legendary, Flavor fail if there isn't an Akroma
Angel of Despair WB Angel and iconic art
Angelic Arbiter White - Control Angel
Angelic Page White - Cheapest Cost Angel
Archangel The new art (image name is ARC20150216 and I assume ARC = Archangel), Moon and stars in the background and flavor text fits with new image.
Baneslayer Angel White - The she's got you covered angel (flying, first strike, etc)
Crypt Angel Black Angel
Deathless Angel White - Get some new art on her, and mini Avacyn effect
9. Iona, Shield of Emeria White - Highest casting cost Angel, The money card
Maelstrom Archangel WUBRG - 5-color Angel
Platinum Angel Colorless Artifact Angel
Serra Angel White - From the beginning
Sigil of the Empty Throne White - Enchantment bringing angelsStoic Angel GWB - Shard Angel
15. Tariel, Reckoner of Souls WBR Wedge Angel - Legendary
If I am modifying my list I think it looks like this now. I realized we probably won't get token producers since there won't be tokens in the box.
1. Akroma, Angel of Fury Red Angel, Legendary, Flavor fail if there isn't an Akroma
2. Akroma, Angel of Wrath Confirmed
Angel of Despair WB Angel and iconic art
Archangel The new art (image name is ARC20150216 and I assume ARC = Archangel), Moon and stars in the background and flavor text fits with new image.
5. Avacyn, Angel of Hope Confirmed
Baneslayer Angel White - The she's got you covered angel (flying, first strike, etc)
Blinding Angel
Crypt Angel Black Angel
9. Iona, Shield of Emeria White - Highest casting cost Angel, The money card
Iridescent Angel Protection is dying, she won't be reprinted any time soon because of it
Jenera, Asura of War Green "Shard Angel"
Maelstrom Archangel WUBRG - 5-color Angel
Platinum Angel Colorless Artifact Angel
14. Serra Angel Confirmed White - From the beginning
15. Tariel, Reckoner of Souls WBR Wedge Angel - Legendary
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Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
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What do you expect? Not every card can be money, or even a rare for that matter. From the Vault products are meant to showcase their themes and there is not a single Angel in Magic who even comes close to the iconic level of Serra Angel. It would be a sin not to include her.
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It is a throwback to nostalgia They had shiv in ftv dragons and they will probably have lord of the pit in demons (if they make one). Its a fine choice as people collect her.
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Not too much longer to wait until I can find out if they've put in Fallen Angel. Though Angel of Despair being the new card would make me squee.