Thats unfair.Ajani is the most badass of the lorwn 5 because he actually managed to stop Nicol Bolas and enter his ***** list.Hellping Elspeth fight against Xenagos was also another cool thing he did.Nothing against Gideon tough i kinda like him also.Is possible that they changed because of color alignment?Ajani is more Naya and Gideon is mono white so far making him a better fit for the group to keep pattern of mono colored planeswalker
Thats unfair.Ajani is the most badass of the lorwn 5 because he actually managed to stop Nicol Bolas and enter his ***** list.Hellping Elspeth fight against Xenagos was also another cool thing he did.Nothing against Gideon tough i kinda like him also.Is possible that they changed because of color alignment?Ajani is more Naya and Gideon is mono white so far making him a better fit for the group to keep pattern of mono colored planeswalker
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You know... speaking in a Vorthos kind of manner, there is something incredibly wrong about putting DFCs in a set called Origins.
Or Planeswalkers, for that matter.
Man, I feel old...
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I doubt it's valid anymore, but my theory was that the final core set product would be legal forever in all formats. Of course, that would only work if they never stopped printing it on demand.
Already been speculated. Would be bad for limited.
Oh no!
Not Mythics that would be bad in Limited!
Such a thing is entirely unprecedented!
Oh no!
Did I realy needed to mention that would make 5 "key" mythic out of 15ish unplayable for limited?
If you want to screw limited with a bunch of bad rare/mythic. Create card's that search Library for card that exist only in other set.. That would be awesome!!!
This isn't really the Origins of Magic but the Origins of Neowalkers. I wonder how many people are going to upset MaRo when they keep referring to them as neowalkers as they announce the set? For some reason he hates that term even though it's actually very good at separating the planeswalkers of old from new without making the new seem more feeble.
Because of the way its used. Ever since 2007, the terms Neowalker and Bradywalker have always seemed at least to me to be used as derogatory terms for the post-mending walkers.
With a quick google search I found Mark's thoughts on neowalker.
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sarpadianempiresvol-viii asked: On "neowalker": But it's Wizards that created the difference. Pre-Mending, planeswalkers were gods. Post-Mending, they're people that hop through the Multiverse. With that change comes a slew of storytelling differences, which has been stated to be a reason for the change in the first place. I understand that "neowalker" could be used as a derogatory term, but most of the time it's not (just used as a synonym for post-Mending planeswalker).
If it were only used in context (“Jace doesn’t have that kind of power. He’s a neowalker”), I’d feel better about it but it’s not. It’s a way to distinguish characters made after a certain chronological real world time and it is mostly used in a derogatory way to signify that they are newer characters and that they are less because of it.
It’s like pointing out that someone is of a certain race or gender when it’s irrelevant to the conversation. I like language when it is inclusive and dislike it when it is divisive.
Part of my job is to monitor the Magic playerbase. I read a lot of what you all say. The word “neowalker” came from a divisive place and continues to be used often in a divisive way. Note that I understand a lot of players don’t use it that way but the word itself reinforces behavior I think is unhealthy for the community. As such, I don’t like it.
I don’t like that there are “these” planeswalkers and “those” planeswalkers. Planeswalkers, unless you are narrowly talking within story contrast, are one group. Let’s use words to treat them as such.
I can't help but feel its odd that Magic Origins doesn't have the original 5 walkers. Ajani was magic's first white planeswalker card not gidion. Same goes for Chandra. Would it not have made more sense for them to start with the first wave of neowalkers?
I remember Maro saying that Ajani was the least popular of the Lorwyn 5 and he theorized it was because he wasn't human enough. That could be why they went with Gideon instead.
Ajani isn't in it, most likely, because we already KNOW his origin. It was called Conflux.
We already know 3 out of the 5 though and one is the poster boy.
We already know Jace's. He ascended while practicing with illusion magic under the tutelage of Alhammarrat when he was just a student.
Chandra's activated under the threat of execution during the time her village was burnt to the ground due to her misuse of power.
Gideon's was activated while meditating after a brutal battle against a powerful opponent.
Nissa and Liliana's are the only ones we don't know, it is stated Nissa's activated when she was very young but not explained how.
EDIT: Had to edit this cause people are stating Ajani wasn't chosen because of his known origin.
We also know Lilianas and Nissias backstories as well, though we never leaned how Liliana ascended.
I also agree Tamiyo would have fit better then Jace.
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Thats unfair.Ajani is the most badass of the lorwn 5 because he actually managed to stop Nicol Bolas and enter his ***** list.Hellping Elspeth fight against Xenagos was also another cool thing he did.Nothing against Gideon tough i kinda like him also.Is possible that they changed because of color alignment?Ajani is more Naya and Gideon is mono white so far making him a better fit for the group to keep pattern of mono colored planeswalker
We already have Ajani's backstory, it was basically the entire Alara block. The young Ajani planeswalker card was Ajani Vengeant.
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msun: Well, knives SHOULD scoop icecream.
Highroller: We have spoons that do it. Moreover, the shape of a knife that would scoop ice cream would make it horrible for performing the functions of a knife.
msun: Highroller, you bring up spoons as though they were the utensil used for scooping ice cream.
Yep they go from legend to planeswalker. Compare Venser, Shaper Savant to Venser, the Sojourner. Venser is the very first walker in the game to have a creature card that came before his walker card.
Yep they go from legend to planeswalker. Compare Venser, Shaper Savant to Venser, the Sojourner. Venser is the very first walker in the game to have a creature card that came before his walker card.
Teferi was printed before Venser.
And Nicol Bolas was printed before either of them.
Honestly, the most striking thing about this announcement to me is that they decided not to hype Dragons of Tarkir which drops in a month and a half, and not MM2, but instead the July release. I am not heartened by this decision. Official Dragons of Tarkir spoilers should start March 8th, and we will be getting MTG: Origins spoilers at PAX on March 7th... Feels to me like they don't have high hopes for DTK or MM2 (any word on official set code for modern masters 2? there isn't one on the announcing arcana)
March 8th all they have to say is "Enemy fetchlands in DTK!" and it's instantly the best sold third set ever.
MM15 sells itslef even in silence.
What they need to hype is the little thing we might forget in the Modern euphoria.
How will this influence the naming of "Duels of the Planeswalkers" (the last one was "Magic 2015 - Duels of the Planeswalkers" or "Duels 2015") and the "Deck Builder's Toolkit" (which was always linked heavily to the core set)?
How will this influence the naming of "Duels of the Planeswalkers" (the last one was "Magic 2015 - Duels of the Planeswalkers" or "Duels 2015") and the "Deck Builder's Toolkit" (which was always linked heavily to the core set)?
All I know is that if they start calling it "Duels of the Planeswalkers - Origins", then "Duels of the Planeswalkers - XP" and "Duels of the Planeswalkers - Vista" can't be far behind.
It would be cool if there were Legendary Creature cards that searched for cards from outside the game, like I don't know, Planeswalkers with a specific subtype?
I do think there'll be either two cards of the same person, or just the part before they ignite their spark (meaning we get legends).
I also believe they won't be sacrificed; instead they'll be exiled (in flavor sense planeswalk) and you can search your library for a planeswalker card type "Liliana" (or any of the 5) and put it onto the battlefield. Double-faced cards could be possible, but limited to just these 5 as a gimmick. Wizards have shown to allow some room for gimmick so long as these gimmicks are few in numbers.
If they want to make a flavor homerun, they could trigger this "ignite your spark thingy" differently. For e.g. Chandra (say as a 2/2) taking damage but survives and ignites her spark. Small little game within the legends. I like it.
Whatever it is, EDH players are in for a real treat.
True he did get the msot development between them
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Planeswalker token?
As a mythic rare creature and a mythic rare planeswalker, this has a very limited impact to the "limited", TBH.
Anything, but nothing at the moment...
Modern:
WUBRGAmulet Titan, WUBRGHuman
WUBRAd Nauseam, WBRGDeath Shadow, UBRGScapeshift, UBRGDredge
WURJeskai Nahiri, WURCheeri0s, WBGCounter Company, WRGBurn, UBRMadcap Moon, BRGJund Midrange
UBTurn,BRGriselbrand Reanimator, WGKnight Company, RGRG Tron, RGRG Ponza, XAffinity, XEldrazi Tron
Or Planeswalkers, for that matter.
Man, I feel old...
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Oh no!
Not Mythics that would be bad in Limited!
Such a thing is entirely unprecedented!
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Oh no!
Did I realy needed to mention that would make 5 "key" mythic out of 15ish unplayable for limited?
If you want to screw limited with a bunch of bad rare/mythic. Create card's that search Library for card that exist only in other set.. That would be awesome!!!
Because of the way its used. Ever since 2007, the terms Neowalker and Bradywalker have always seemed at least to me to be used as derogatory terms for the post-mending walkers.
With a quick google search I found Mark's thoughts on neowalker.
Ajani isn't in it, most likely, because we already KNOW his origin. It was called Conflux.
We also know Lilianas and Nissias backstories as well, though we never leaned how Liliana ascended.
I also agree Tamiyo would have fit better then Jace.
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
But have 10 mythics in the same set been bad in Limited?
Edit: Or 5 based on which of the two systems you mean.
We already have Ajani's backstory, it was basically the entire Alara block. The young Ajani planeswalker card was Ajani Vengeant.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
are you reading this ultra-pro? can you do that much?
Easier than flipping, cheaper on ink, smoother and you will see the characters more in the limited format.
Teferi was printed before Venser.
And Nicol Bolas was printed before either of them.
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March 8th all they have to say is "Enemy fetchlands in DTK!" and it's instantly the best sold third set ever.
MM15 sells itslef even in silence.
What they need to hype is the little thing we might forget in the Modern euphoria.
How will this influence the naming of "Duels of the Planeswalkers" (the last one was "Magic 2015 - Duels of the Planeswalkers" or "Duels 2015") and the "Deck Builder's Toolkit" (which was always linked heavily to the core set)?
All I know is that if they start calling it "Duels of the Planeswalkers - Origins", then "Duels of the Planeswalkers - XP" and "Duels of the Planeswalkers - Vista" can't be far behind.
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I also believe they won't be sacrificed; instead they'll be exiled (in flavor sense planeswalk) and you can search your library for a planeswalker card type "Liliana" (or any of the 5) and put it onto the battlefield. Double-faced cards could be possible, but limited to just these 5 as a gimmick. Wizards have shown to allow some room for gimmick so long as these gimmicks are few in numbers.
If they want to make a flavor homerun, they could trigger this "ignite your spark thingy" differently. For e.g. Chandra (say as a 2/2) taking damage but survives and ignites her spark. Small little game within the legends. I like it.
Whatever it is, EDH players are in for a real treat.
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