WHAT? Why couldn't Ghastly Conscription exile all cards and manifest them? COME ON, it's a MYTHIC. One of Manifest's best points is that it can turn a non-creature into a creature.
That Goblin is monored's first 3-power, 0-drawback, 2-drop creature. Ever. AND it has a highly relevant upside.
This is big news for aggro. At LEAST Rakdos Cackler big.
Which I honestly find surprising because I would have imagined Red to carve this niche out a long time ago.
Ghastly Conscription could have cost 1-2 less, depending on how far they wanted to push this. It seems like they went the other way with it though. Anyone playing EDH will almost always spring for the two additional mana to just use Rise of the Dark Realms, the value you get is so much more worth it. Like people said, it seems like a black card without a home. I personally like it but it costs 1 mana too much for me to get too excited about.
I'm wondering whether there will be any interesting common/uncommon reprints when the full set is spoiled. What I would do for a Crypt Incursion reprint!
Actually, now that I think about it, Dragon's Maze had 11 mythics because Maze's End could be found only in the basic land/guildgate/shockland spot of a booster pack, which means that the 11th mythic of that set was printed on entirely different sheets separate from the rest of the cards.
So yeah, red probably got shafted this time around. Unless they put Ugin, the Spirit Dragon in the land slot of a FRF pack as well...but that'd be stupid.
EDIT: Downdala beat me to my post by a few seconds. Pfft.
I'd think the mythic might get better if we get more colorless-caring cards in Dragons of Tarkhir. It already works well with Ugin, since morph avoid his wrath.
Dragon Maze had eleven with Maze's End but that card was in the land slot.
So, unless Ugin is in the land slot we are not getting a red mythic.
That last mythic is so bad though... Seven mana for what, 3 to 4 manifested 2/2s in typical limited games ?
Seems like a design failiure. They should have done a one mana version targetting one card at mythic if they really wanted that kind of interactions...
You know MAYBE...since we already got Rageform and Lightform, we can have a Black Enchantment a la Animate Dead but with Manisfest? Right?
Boring mythic. The goblin looks fairly good though.
Its fairly sad when the mythic sucks and a common is the highlight of the day...
You mean that's a good day right? After all, I like it when my wallet doesn't need to commit seppuku every time a good card gets spoiled.
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Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
You mean that's a good day right? After all, I like it when my wallet doesn't need to commit seppuku every time a good card gets spoiled.
Its good for money reasons but I want to see cool and unique mythics. Good commons is always good but when we get things that are just bad versions of existing cards its just hard to get excited.
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I have officially moved to MTGNexus. I just wanted to let people know as my response time to salvation decks being bumped is very hit or miss.
Dragon Maze had eleven with Maze's End but that card was in the land slot.
So, unless Ugin is in the land slot we are not getting a red mythic.
That last mythic is so bad though... Seven mana for what, 3 to 4 manifested 2/2s in typical limited games ?
Seems like a design failiure. They should have done a one mana version targetting one card at mythic if they really wanted that kind of interactions...
Add Cloudshift to that hypothetical card, and you have yourself a broken combo in Modern (and a very powerful one in Legacy)
You can't even pawin off the black mythic as "lol edh" because of color identity. Unless you got blink hijinks/ face up cheats with Ixidor. But that adds a bunch of other colors to the mix so maybe u can cast some of them?
Still most edh players would just run rise of the dark realms.
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To the people that say that a card needs to be a higher rarity because of Limited... I hate you guys so much. I present to you with this.
That last mythic is so bad though... Seven mana for what, 3 to 4 manifested 2/2s in typical limited games ?
Hm, I think it's still a bomb. Especially if you have some self mill from Delve enablers, huge amount of card advantage. Even if it's only 4 creatures it's already a 4-for-1. And unlike say a draw spell, the manifests help stabilize the board so you have time to 'cast' them. Would be a fun card to first pick and build around, I think.
The goblin is indeed more exciting though, I think adding FRF will speed up Limited by quite a bit.
So, 4 mana, Sandsurf goblin, Flamewake Phoenix and Fanatic of Mogis on the field. Dash in Flamerush Rider, copy Fanatic, deal 7 damage, attack with 15 power?
I think this is bigger for red devotion than for mono red.
Well, only 9/10 of the Mythics are great cards instead of all 10. Can't complain about that ratio
Anyone criticizing the quality of this set is crazy.
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The mythic saddens me. Should have been all cards not just creatures ESPECIALLY if it only targets a single opponent (I'm thinking of EDH of course).
Also FINALLY WE GET A RED TWO MANA 3/1! AND WITH UPSIDE!!! (I've been waiting for this for oh so long) AND EVEN THE ART IS SWEET & IT'S ALSO A COMMON :sunny::sunny:
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Casual Decks WRBoros Aggro (Glorious knights of badassery) RBRakdos Bloodthirst (Undercosted waves of fat s***) URIzzet Talrand/Pyromancer (b/c I hate you) GRGruul Ramp and Stomp (SO FAT. SO FAST. RAWRRR) GBGolgari Birthing Pod (b/c you wanted a challenge. I did warn you this BS is banned though) BWOrzhov Lifegain Aggro (Removal for dayzzz) WGSelesnya Tribal Golem-splicers/token (meh. Needs more upgrades. Perhaps switching to bant?) WUAzorius Flicker (b/c I wanna annoy the f*** outta you) GUSimic Evolve Aggro (Aggro takes a journey to the weird side of the color pie) BUDimir Control (b/c I wanna peel your skin off and flay you within an inch of life before I kill you) URWJeskai Ascendency Tokens (MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA) RWBMardu Warriors (Butcher is da bomb) GU Simic Morph (slow as s*** but oh so fun) WBGAbzan Dredge-animator (PURE EVIL) GWHexproof Aggro (Deal with it. Lemme guess, you cant?)
EDH Decks UBRNekusar (Multiplayer MONSTA. 1v1 Klutz) GRB Prossh (Set up engines. WRECK FACE) GEzuri (Hey so I heard you liked Elves...) UTalrand (Counter. Cantrip. Counter. Cantrip. Repeat till opponents die-- possibly of boredom)
Tiny leaders WUDaxos (basic 3/1 fliers do basic s***. Also Daxos) RWAnax and Cymede (Heroic weenie beats)
Standard RRMONO RED AGGRO (RAWWWRRRR!!!!) WUHeroic Aggro (Easy mode beatstick)
So if I have my Foundry Street Denizen turn one, and this goblin in hand turn two, I can effectively attack for five until a control player has instant speed removal for my goblin, or spend his LOL SORCERY SPEED REMOVAL ON MY ONE DROP, bahahaha.
Also, I love how the goblin is double red but can enter and exit the battlefield over and over, him and purphoros are going to be best friends.
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The red mage lives by the variance and dies by the variance. May the variance be with you, always.
WHAT A WASTED OPPORTUNITY.
That sandsurfing goblin.
Small sets typically have 11 mythics, right?
Where is the 2nd red mythic?
Which I honestly find surprising because I would have imagined Red to carve this niche out a long time ago.
Ghastly Conscription could have cost 1-2 less, depending on how far they wanted to push this. It seems like they went the other way with it though. Anyone playing EDH will almost always spring for the two additional mana to just use Rise of the Dark Realms, the value you get is so much more worth it. Like people said, it seems like a black card without a home. I personally like it but it costs 1 mana too much for me to get too excited about.
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Small sets only have 10 Mythics typically. Red lost a Mythic to Ugin.
Unlikely, but possible.
I'm wondering whether there will be any interesting common/uncommon reprints when the full set is spoiled. What I would do for a Crypt Incursion reprint!
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Modern:
UBR Grixis Control
UWR Jeskai Control
So yeah, red probably got shafted this time around. Unless they put Ugin, the Spirit Dragon in the land slot of a FRF pack as well...but that'd be stupid.
EDIT: Downdala beat me to my post by a few seconds. Pfft.
You know MAYBE...since we already got Rageform and Lightform, we can have a Black Enchantment a la Animate Dead but with Manisfest? Right?
You mean that's a good day right? After all, I like it when my wallet doesn't need to commit seppuku every time a good card gets spoiled.
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
Its good for money reasons but I want to see cool and unique mythics. Good commons is always good but when we get things that are just bad versions of existing cards its just hard to get excited.
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Add Cloudshift to that hypothetical card, and you have yourself a broken combo in Modern (and a very powerful one in Legacy)
1) The manifest creatures avoid Ugin's wrath.
2) Combos well with Purphoros.
3) Not all decks play wrathes. This can fill the board and acts like card draw at the same time (because the manifest cards can be cast).
Still most edh players would just run rise of the dark realms.
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Hm, I think it's still a bomb. Especially if you have some self mill from Delve enablers, huge amount of card advantage. Even if it's only 4 creatures it's already a 4-for-1. And unlike say a draw spell, the manifests help stabilize the board so you have time to 'cast' them. Would be a fun card to first pick and build around, I think.
The goblin is indeed more exciting though, I think adding FRF will speed up Limited by quite a bit.
Stir in some Dragon Mantle, Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker, Eidolon of the Great Revel.. I smell a deck brewing. Dragon Mantle is especially helpful to the Sandsurfer and Phoenix.
Anyone criticizing the quality of this set is crazy.
Also FINALLY WE GET A RED TWO MANA 3/1! AND WITH UPSIDE!!! (I've been waiting for this for oh so long) AND EVEN THE ART IS SWEET & IT'S ALSO A COMMON :sunny::sunny:
WRBoros Aggro (Glorious knights of badassery)
RBRakdos Bloodthirst (Undercosted waves of fat s***)
URIzzet Talrand/Pyromancer (b/c I hate you)
GRGruul Ramp and Stomp (SO FAT. SO FAST. RAWRRR)
GBGolgari Birthing Pod (b/c you wanted a challenge. I did warn you this BS is banned though)
BWOrzhov Lifegain Aggro (Removal for dayzzz)
WGSelesnya Tribal Golem-splicers/token (meh. Needs more upgrades. Perhaps switching to bant?)
WUAzorius Flicker (b/c I wanna annoy the f*** outta you)
GUSimic Evolve Aggro (Aggro takes a journey to the weird side of the color pie)
BUDimir Control (b/c I wanna peel your skin off and flay you within an inch of life before I kill you)
URWJeskai Ascendency Tokens (MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA)
RWBMardu Warriors (Butcher is da bomb)
GU Simic Morph (slow as s*** but oh so fun)
WBGAbzan Dredge-animator (PURE EVIL)
GWHexproof Aggro (Deal with it. Lemme guess, you cant?)
EDH Decks
UBRNekusar (Multiplayer MONSTA. 1v1 Klutz)
GRB Prossh (Set up engines. WRECK FACE)
GEzuri (Hey so I heard you liked Elves...)
UTalrand (Counter. Cantrip. Counter. Cantrip. Repeat till opponents die-- possibly of boredom)
Tiny leaders
WUDaxos (basic 3/1 fliers do basic s***. Also Daxos)
RWAnax and Cymede (Heroic weenie beats)
Standard
RRMONO RED AGGRO (RAWWWRRRR!!!!)
WUHeroic Aggro (Easy mode beatstick)
Also, I love how the goblin is double red but can enter and exit the battlefield over and over, him and purphoros are going to be best friends.