Soulfire Grand Master + Reality Shift =
Reality Shift 3U
Instant (U)
Exile target creature, its controller manifests the top card of their library. If Reality Shift would be put into your graveyard, return it your hand instead as it resolves.
Totally nothing brokenat all about this in standard.
I don't find 2 card, 6 mana, combos that are blanked to creature removal terribly threatening.
Of course you could just be sarcastic, in which case carry on.
The term "broken" needs to have meaning. To do that we can't throw it around at every opportunity.
Emphasis "in standard". Now if it only costed U and two cards to do that trick then I would start to be worried for other formats but as it is, its a cute trick in other formats and a somewhat powerful trick in standard. Also dratdarn. My sarcasm didn't translate well.
It seldom does through text. Even less so when talking about mtg, where hyperbole is rampant.
Soulfire Grand Master + Reality Shift =
Reality Shift 3U
Instant (U)
Exile target creature, its controller manifests the top card of their library. If Reality Shift would be put into your graveyard, return it your hand instead as it resolves.
Totally nothing brokenat all about this in standard.
Yeah, man! You could totally infinite cycle their manifested creatures. Pseuso-imposing sovreign is pretty busted.
Every new polimorph/pongify variant that appears someone says it's not blue's color pie. Reality Shift is boring, c'mon... Curse of Swine is much more exciting and it's poorly used. Pongify is 1CMC and not random and it's not used on blue decks to imitate Path to Exile.
Even modern top control (Lantern of Insight) don't need Reality Shift, Dispatch exists.
I'm disappointed of blue manifest cards.
I'm not making the mistake of saying it's a 2 for 1 again, but against a courser deck, you're not just using it to take out a creature you're also using it to deny your opponent a spell that can hurt you. You use it on one of their creatures when you see he's top decked an Elspeth or a Sorin or even like I said before you use it to stop his siege rhino from getting the ETB trigger. Plus if you're playing Jeskai and you have a lightning strike or the new shock hopefully you can kill it before they can pay to turn it up.
It's totally blue (Pongify-slash-Ixidron) and while it'll absolutely see play it's not broken. Smart players might even be able to use the manifested creature to their advantage. Its predecessors were less mana for guaranteedly vanilla creatures.
PS. Is that 3W for Mastery's ability? It's no Pack Rat, but we've been taught time and time again guaranteed creatures is good...
I honestly can't see Reality Shift having any impact on constructed formats, except maybe as a sideboard option depending on how Standard turns out.
There are currently very few targets in Standard where the drawback of giving a 2/2 (possibly better) is worth it. Stormbreath Dragon, Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker and to a lesser extent Doomwake Giant are about the only popular targets that wouldn't make me feel like I got screwed for using Reality Shift.
At some point crying "That's not blue!" stops having anything to back it up because they've done the effect in blue so many times now. It's pretty solidly blue, guys.
And to people complaining about blue's "Ever expanding color-pie:" Every color's color pie is shifting around, losing and gaining things all the time; there's just this absurd bias against blue because blue was at one point in the game overtly more powerful than the other colors. That hasn't been true of modern sets for a very long time, but people don't want to accept that the colors of magic are pretty balanced these days, with every color getting it's time in the light of standard.
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So the best removal in Limited is Blue again? Theros block went that way with cheap common blue bounce, and we already have Force Away.
Get in the habit of forcing and first-picking Blue.
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"Entitled:" the entire ad hominem fallacy condensed into a single word. It doesn't strengthen your argument to attack motivations, it just makes you look like you don't understand the argument.
I dunno about you guys but Reality Shift looks broken. Like Path to Exile broken...
I'd assume it's not broken in the same way that Rapid Hybridisation wasn't broken. One more mana for a smaller creature, that has the possibility to be a better creature anyway. Nah.
It won't be broken, but it is a very similar power level to rapid hybridization, which certainly saw play. Turn a high-value creature into a 2/2? Absolutely. Granted this may well be more of a sideboard if your meta has lots of aggro decks, but I'd use this on a siege rhino, stormbreath dragon, sarkhan, the dragonspeaker, brimaz, king of oreskos, any of the gods (as long as they're animated), etc. There're enough midrange decks with big creatures to make this worth at least a sideboard slot to deal with creatures you'd otherwise have trouble with.
So the best removal in Limited is Blue again? Theros block went that way with cheap common blue bounce, and we already have Force Away.
Get in the habit of forcing and first-picking Blue.
In limited I'd get used to the feeling of getting blown out with your own reality shift.
In other news: I'm really excited to deck people in Khans/Fate Reforges limited; I really hope they put in the support cards to do it besides the dragon. People aggressively manifesting cards starts making that 40 card goalpost a lot closer.
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Generals meant to be drafted first in a single pack of 6 cards.
And here is the actual cube, meant to be drafted in 4 regular sized packs. (60 card decks)
Get in the habit of forcing and first-picking Blue.
If this card shines it won't be in limited. Having a 2/2 instead of ____ isn't nearly as much of a setback in limited and creatures are so common they're more likely to actually have something to flip, with all the benefits of turning face-up instead of casting.
Earlier someone had raised the point of Phyrexian Dreadnought being a potential risk... but what if it were the point of the exercise? Cast a Strawman like Shield Sphere and transform it into Pdiddy. Some SDT trickery and you've maybe got a viable list.
Earlier someone had raised the point of Phyrexian Dreadnought being a potential risk... but what if it were the point of the exercise? Cast a Strawman like Shield Sphere and transform it into Pdiddy. Some SDT trickery and you've maybe got a viable list.
You're better off with the other Manifest cards, since you don't need to remove your own creature. Assuming you have some deck manipulation to set it up: Soul Summons2W for a 12/12 trample Lightform2WW for a 12/12 flying lifelink trample
Earlier someone had raised the point of Phyrexian Dreadnought being a potential risk... but what if it were the point of the exercise? Cast a Strawman like Shield Sphere and transform it into Pdiddy. Some SDT trickery and you've maybe got a viable list.
You're better off with the other Manifest cards, since you don't need to remove your own creature. Assuming you have some deck manipulation to set it up: Soul Summons2W for a 12/12 trample Lightform2WW for a 12/12 flying lifelink trample
Well, while Phyrexian Dreadnought is the king, of course, other creatures with bad ETB triggers are also interesting options for manifesting. Things like Eater of Days, Sky Swallower or Phage the Untouchable...
Get in the habit of forcing and first-picking Blue.
If this card shines it won't be in limited. Having a 2/2 instead of ____ isn't nearly as much of a setback in limited and creatures are so common they're more likely to actually have something to flip, with all the benefits of turning face-up instead of casting.
Limited runs more creatures, but how many bombs do you really get in a draft or sealed deck? If I hit a creature I can't otherwise answer, I'll give them a 2/2 that they can potentially flip all day. Most of the time, if it's something that needed removed, the flip will be worse for them than having the original creature. Yes, you will once in a while let them flip something nasty. Most of the time, it's 3 mana to remove their biggest threat and give them a bear.
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Cards are game pieces, and should be treated as such, easily replaceable.
Cards are not money, investments, or a retirement fund, and should never have been treated as such.
Wizards made a mistake caving to speculators once, and we still pay for that mistake 2 decades later.
"Entitled:" the entire ad hominem fallacy condensed into a single word. It doesn't strengthen your argument to attack motivations, it just makes you look like you don't understand the argument.
Holy Manifest! Do new abilities usually show up on THIS many cards in a set? I love all of the arts featuring Ugin!
Was it really necessary to have a red common that Manifests then puts 2 +1/+1 counters on the creature, then have a Green common that does the exact same thing, only one less counter for one less mana? That seems weird to me. Especially since you'd think Green would get the larger boosting card.
While I certainly expect Reality Shift to see constructed play, I'm dubious it will be a true staple even in standard, unless there is a particular deck that can make good use of it or a deck that is particularly hosed by it.
In modern, it seems best against disruption-heavy, threat-light decks like UR Delver, where the manifest is very unlikely to punish you. Or against a deck like storm/ascendancy that presents a must answer creature with no actual interest in beating down i.e. Goblin Electromancer/Fatestitcher. In that case though, why aren't you just running bolt? Or hell, dismember? Against a deck like Cruise-burn, affinity, or a various zoo/big-green variant, tapping a creature and turning it into a 2/2 with possible upside doesn't seem to be worth a card.
In standard it can be an absurd tempo card (in response to a fleecemane lion or arbor colossus monstrous activation, for example). But I don't really see a blue-based control deck wanting this ever. It exiles, which IS relevant in a vacuum. But none of the gods are seeing play (except ironically Pharika, remember how much people hated her when she was spoiled? lolz), and the only other indestructible threat in the format also has hexproof. Against graveyard-based whip decks, exiling instead of destroying seems good, but it's not like they don't have other ways of filling their graveyards. And decks that want to abuse Cruise/Dig don't rely on trading creature off to build up delve.
In limited, I'm not sure if this is first pickable. The fact that it does stone nothing against a board of 2/2 dorks is actually extremely relevant in limited, and while you can blow people out who try to multi-block your big threat, if someone is triple blocking your 6/6 you're probably already winning.
In the end, the amount of play this sees will depend dramatically on whether or not a deck exists that can find a way to abuse it... just like rapid hybridization.
I can't wait to shove Reality Shift into a deck with Yasova Dragonclaw; 2U to attack them with their own creature and then exile it and manifest your deck.
Yep. It might not be Path to Exile, but it is still Modern-playable.
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Yeah, man! You could totally infinite cycle their manifested creatures. Pseuso-imposing sovreign is pretty busted.
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I'm not making the mistake of saying it's a 2 for 1 again, but against a courser deck, you're not just using it to take out a creature you're also using it to deny your opponent a spell that can hurt you. You use it on one of their creatures when you see he's top decked an Elspeth or a Sorin or even like I said before you use it to stop his siege rhino from getting the ETB trigger. Plus if you're playing Jeskai and you have a lightning strike or the new shock hopefully you can kill it before they can pay to turn it up.
PS. Is that 3W for Mastery's ability? It's no Pack Rat, but we've been taught time and time again guaranteed creatures is good...
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There are currently very few targets in Standard where the drawback of giving a 2/2 (possibly better) is worth it. Stormbreath Dragon, Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker and to a lesser extent Doomwake Giant are about the only popular targets that wouldn't make me feel like I got screwed for using Reality Shift.
And to people complaining about blue's "Ever expanding color-pie:" Every color's color pie is shifting around, losing and gaining things all the time; there's just this absurd bias against blue because blue was at one point in the game overtly more powerful than the other colors. That hasn't been true of modern sets for a very long time, but people don't want to accept that the colors of magic are pretty balanced these days, with every color getting it's time in the light of standard.
Generals meant to be drafted first in a single pack of 6 cards.
And here is the actual cube, meant to be drafted in 4 regular sized packs. (60 card decks)
Get in the habit of forcing and first-picking Blue.
Cards are not money, investments, or a retirement fund, and should never have been treated as such.
Wizards made a mistake caving to speculators once, and we still pay for that mistake 2 decades later.
"Entitled:" the entire ad hominem fallacy condensed into a single word. It doesn't strengthen your argument to attack motivations, it just makes you look like you don't understand the argument.
It won't be broken, but it is a very similar power level to rapid hybridization, which certainly saw play. Turn a high-value creature into a 2/2? Absolutely. Granted this may well be more of a sideboard if your meta has lots of aggro decks, but I'd use this on a siege rhino, stormbreath dragon, sarkhan, the dragonspeaker, brimaz, king of oreskos, any of the gods (as long as they're animated), etc. There're enough midrange decks with big creatures to make this worth at least a sideboard slot to deal with creatures you'd otherwise have trouble with.
In limited I'd get used to the feeling of getting blown out with your own reality shift.
In other news: I'm really excited to deck people in Khans/Fate Reforges limited; I really hope they put in the support cards to do it besides the dragon. People aggressively manifesting cards starts making that 40 card goalpost a lot closer.
Generals meant to be drafted first in a single pack of 6 cards.
And here is the actual cube, meant to be drafted in 4 regular sized packs. (60 card decks)
If this card shines it won't be in limited. Having a 2/2 instead of ____ isn't nearly as much of a setback in limited and creatures are so common they're more likely to actually have something to flip, with all the benefits of turning face-up instead of casting.
Playtesting | Karador, Ghost Chieftain | Narset, Enlightened Master | Ephara, God of the Polis
Established | Gahiji, Honored One | Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker | Opal-Eye, Konda's Yojimbo | Rubinia Soulsinger
Retired | Medomai the Ageless | Diaochan, Artful Beauty
You're better off with the other Manifest cards, since you don't need to remove your own creature. Assuming you have some deck manipulation to set it up:
Soul Summons 2W for a 12/12 trample
Lightform 2WW for a 12/12 flying lifelink trample
Well, yeah.
I somehow missed that.
This set is shaping up really well.
you read manifest wrong, they can turn it face up for its mana cost so the manifest card is not wasted if its a creature...
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Limited runs more creatures, but how many bombs do you really get in a draft or sealed deck? If I hit a creature I can't otherwise answer, I'll give them a 2/2 that they can potentially flip all day. Most of the time, if it's something that needed removed, the flip will be worse for them than having the original creature. Yes, you will once in a while let them flip something nasty. Most of the time, it's 3 mana to remove their biggest threat and give them a bear.
Cards are not money, investments, or a retirement fund, and should never have been treated as such.
Wizards made a mistake caving to speculators once, and we still pay for that mistake 2 decades later.
"Entitled:" the entire ad hominem fallacy condensed into a single word. It doesn't strengthen your argument to attack motivations, it just makes you look like you don't understand the argument.
Was it really necessary to have a red common that Manifests then puts 2 +1/+1 counters on the creature, then have a Green common that does the exact same thing, only one less counter for one less mana? That seems weird to me. Especially since you'd think Green would get the larger boosting card.
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In modern, it seems best against disruption-heavy, threat-light decks like UR Delver, where the manifest is very unlikely to punish you. Or against a deck like storm/ascendancy that presents a must answer creature with no actual interest in beating down i.e. Goblin Electromancer/Fatestitcher. In that case though, why aren't you just running bolt? Or hell, dismember? Against a deck like Cruise-burn, affinity, or a various zoo/big-green variant, tapping a creature and turning it into a 2/2 with possible upside doesn't seem to be worth a card.
In standard it can be an absurd tempo card (in response to a fleecemane lion or arbor colossus monstrous activation, for example). But I don't really see a blue-based control deck wanting this ever. It exiles, which IS relevant in a vacuum. But none of the gods are seeing play (except ironically Pharika, remember how much people hated her when she was spoiled? lolz), and the only other indestructible threat in the format also has hexproof. Against graveyard-based whip decks, exiling instead of destroying seems good, but it's not like they don't have other ways of filling their graveyards. And decks that want to abuse Cruise/Dig don't rely on trading creature off to build up delve.
In limited, I'm not sure if this is first pickable. The fact that it does stone nothing against a board of 2/2 dorks is actually extremely relevant in limited, and while you can blow people out who try to multi-block your big threat, if someone is triple blocking your 6/6 you're probably already winning.
In the end, the amount of play this sees will depend dramatically on whether or not a deck exists that can find a way to abuse it... just like rapid hybridization.
Jeskai tempo/tokens?
U/R Delver