I apologise for making this thread about Tarmogoyf. we have enough of those threads already.
anyway i agree with most of what is being said here. basically:
- losing value on a small handful of overpriced staples doesn't mean a net-loss for people trading in singles. the increase in interest/buying into modern gained from a crash in the "mega money" cards will mean more cards are sold overall and will mean a less "spiky", more healthy pricing trend.
- modern could really honestly do with a big influx of cards, especially as the format is going from strength to strength and now has more players than we could have imagined a couple of years ago. The popularity of the format isn't reflected by the supply of reprints, which is causing an issue. There shouldn't be a monetary barrier to playing Modern, any more than there is for standard. If it's much more expensive, there's a problem. New or recent players wanting to get involved find they can't, simply because their wallets aren't big enough, rather than any reflection of skill or willingness to be involved in the community. that's BAD.
one of my modern decks is now worth more than two month's salary for me. that's more than 1/6th of my entire year's pay! this is a CARD GAME. it's wrong. (i hasten to add i owned the cards from when they were in standard and worth pennies... been collecting for a loong time)
generall good will around from people though. it's pleasing to see people actually being realistic about what needs to be done to help save modern from ever-increasing prices.
Prices reflect the community's general perception of supply vs. demand. Regardless of whether you or I'm willing to pay $50+ for Emrakul or any other card, if enough people are, then that's the price it'll be found at. "It's too expensive/undervalued" is an opinion that most people don't share, or the price would be lower/higher that it is. MoMa was printed conservatively, as they wanted to avoid another Chronicles situation, which overcame the market's demand for many of its cards, driving the prices of most of its cards into the bulk bin. MM2 will be likely to have a larger print run than MoMa, and I'd think is likely to include some of the cards from MoMa that still have significant unsatisfied demand.
Generally speaking, MoMa's reprints didn't hurt shops; the drop in prices on a few high-value cards was offset by increased demand/prices for the non-reprinted high-demand cards, and by a general rise in price of some sets as they age and become less available. Non-shop collectors and people who 'just acquired' a card generally did feel like they lost out from MoMa's reprints lowering demand/prices on cards they had acquired at higher prices. Part of what drives the game is its collectibility; if every card was always available to anyone who wants it at minimal price, the game just wouldn't be nearly as successful. Reprints damage that collectibility (although how much is open to debate); this is why people eventually begin to drift towards trying to acquire Reserved List cards, due to their collectibility being protected from reprints.
It's not a simple matter of "should we or shouldn't we", there's actual promissory laws prohibiting Wizards from reprinting Reserved cards. And even if those laws didn't exist, it's still not an easy answer as both sides have legitimate arguments. Wizards' own reputation is on the line; if they broke their promise about the list, what other commitments might they not honor in the future? At least by sticking to the list, Wizards has shown that they honor their commitments.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
It's not a simple matter of "should we or shouldn't we", there's actual promissory laws prohibiting Wizards from reprinting Reserved cards. And even if those laws didn't exist, it's still not an easy answer as both sides have legitimate arguments. Wizards' own reputation is on the line; if they broke their promise about the list, what other commitments might they not honor in the future? At least by sticking to the list, Wizards has shown that they honor their commitments.
Speculation, actually. We don't know, and Wizards won't say, why the RL is being stuck to. They acknowledge that it was a mistake, but have decided to keep it for reasons they won't (can't?) discuss.
Wizards' reputation? Really, would you rather do business with a company that does what is best for their game and their customers, or one that blindly follows every misguided policy they create, refusing to make necessary changes because "we promised?" I think its irresponsible of Wizards to stick to the RL despite obvious demand, and doubly so to decide to drop support for a format rather than reprint the staple cards that would allow the format to thrive.
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Cards are game pieces, and should be treated as such, easily replaceable.
Cards are not money, investments, or a retirement fund, and should never have been treated as such.
Wizards made a mistake caving to speculators once, and we still pay for that mistake 2 decades later.
"Entitled:" the entire ad hominem fallacy condensed into a single word. It doesn't strengthen your argument to attack motivations, it just makes you look like you don't understand the argument.
They're known as promissory estoppel laws, which govern gratuitous promises like that made by Wizards when they introduced the Reprint policy and formed the reserved list. The most recent version of the Reprint Policy can be found here. As I understand, Wizards cannot legally reprint cards on the Reserved List, including functional reprints. It's not just a matter of ticking off the collectors, Wizards would face legal penalties for violating its well-known promise.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
And, reading over the official policy, you'd have a very difficult time in court trying to establish a "promisee," and especially trying to convince a court that, in order for your claim to proceed, you are in fact a promisee, and so is every single other person who owns any physical Magic cards. That likely falls into the category of "unconscionable" and gets any suit dismissed out of hand.
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Cards are game pieces, and should be treated as such, easily replaceable.
Cards are not money, investments, or a retirement fund, and should never have been treated as such.
Wizards made a mistake caving to speculators once, and we still pay for that mistake 2 decades later.
"Entitled:" the entire ad hominem fallacy condensed into a single word. It doesn't strengthen your argument to attack motivations, it just makes you look like you don't understand the argument.
More reprints is always good. The bread and butter of the M:TG community are the ones actively spending for product, and even if anybody could establish themselves as a 'promisee', the amount of gains WotC/Hasbro would swing would be more than enough to offset the costs incurred. Tear down this wall!
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I'm sorry if this has already been touched on or asked but is there anything that can keep them from printing Banned Modern cards? It seems to me that they would put them in a set like this if by chance the card is unbanned at a later time.
They're known as promissory estoppel laws, which govern gratuitous promises like that made by Wizards when they introduced the Reprint policy and formed the reserved list. The most recent version of the Reprint Policy can be found here. As I understand, Wizards cannot legally reprint cards on the Reserved List, including functional reprints. It's not just a matter of ticking off the collectors, Wizards would face legal penalties for violating its well-known promise.
Where were these laws when wizards removed cards from the list in the past? The reserved list has changed multiple times since its creation.
I'm sorry if this has already been touched on or asked but is there anything that can keep them from printing Banned Modern cards? It seems to me that they would put them in a set like this if by chance the card is unbanned at a later time.
They can reprint those without any issues, but they've stated that MM15 won't contain any cards currently banned in Modern.
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Cards are game pieces, and should be treated as such, easily replaceable.
Cards are not money, investments, or a retirement fund, and should never have been treated as such.
Wizards made a mistake caving to speculators once, and we still pay for that mistake 2 decades later.
"Entitled:" the entire ad hominem fallacy condensed into a single word. It doesn't strengthen your argument to attack motivations, it just makes you look like you don't understand the argument.
Two problems with the reprint policy being affected by Promissory Estoppel:
1) Proving reliance upon the "promise." Not even if one was economically investing in the reserved list (which means they would probably have to be a card shop, which will get a majority of its sustained income from recent Wizard's product still), would I suspect this able to win or let alone even sue in court. If one is a collector, there's no chance, as this is a hobby and not an economic investment.
2) Establishing promissees. So everyone that owns a reserved list card is a promissee? No. Everyone who invests heavily into the reserved list with this in mind even? No. These are collectors, not cardboard stockbrokers.
With that in mind, I believe Wizards should honor the Reserved List. Part of the reason Magic is so stable and consistent, is because of Wizard's solidarity on how they print cards and how they support this game. We take the stable prices of this game for granted on the secondary market, but Wizard's integrity and respect is a key reason that so many of us are willing to invest as much as we do in cardboard without a fear of losing long term money. I think they should honor their Reserved List policy for one reason alone: Trust. This is also why I believe Wizards honors their word.
Lol fetchlands are getting reprinted again.
WotC don't give no ***** about you trade binder wolves of wall street.
As much as it hurts me, mostly because it means we'll never see the gorgeous online dual land art printed, WotC should really issue a very clear statement to collectors and mostly low volume "investors" that the only cards they won't print into open avaliability are the cards in the Reserved List. That way we get less fearmongering, less vile and foaming at the mouth from hoarders, and much bigger tournaments. A huge tournament scene and an accessible casual scene are the true lifeblood of a game, it means people will go to your LGS everyday to play and consume cards, snacks and accessories, and not just on release day to pick ***** they'll be selling online next week to your detriment.
All this talk of promissory estoppel is just speculation. We have no idea what WotC's actual reasons are behind their tight-lipped and unyielding stance on the Reserve List, because they are so tight-lipped about it. Legal reasons would explain it but that doesn't mean they're the only thing that could explain it or that our assumption of which specific law is involved is complete and correct.
And, reading over the official policy, you'd have a very difficult time in court trying to establish a "promisee," and especially trying to convince a court that, in order for your claim to proceed, you are in fact a promisee, and so is every single other person who owns any physical Magic cards. That likely falls into the category of "unconscionable" and gets any suit dismissed out of hand.
It is speculation as to the likelihood of success or failure. However, less speculative would be the costs of any litigation. If said litigation were to proceed to the discovery point, Wizards would be subject to disclosure of its printing numbers, internal memos and emails regarding the subject, etc. It would cost them millions (if not tens of millions) to defend. Plus, their employees would be subject to depositions. It would be like the Microsoft litigation where you can watch videos of Bill Gates being deposed for hours. And, it is not as easy as you put it to get the suit dismissed out of hand. It could be filed over and over in all fifty states until a judge finds it suitable to proceed and let discovery commence. In some states, you only have to wait a short amount of time before conducting discovery. At that point, Wizards loses.
In a non-litigation sense, the elimination of the reprint policy could cause enough of a backlash that Wizards doesn't want to face. After all, part of the mystique of Magic is the scarcity of cards like Black Lotus. As demonstrated by the continual rise of sales, the Reprint policy hasn't hurt sales of current product. If you look at Vintage Masters online, it started big but eventually faded. The last time it was available online, I couldn't even get a draft to fire in under an hour.
In a non-litigation sense, the elimination of the reprint policy could cause enough of a backlash that Wizards doesn't want to face. After all, part of the mystique of Magic is the scarcity of cards like Black Lotus.
Even if the Reserve List gets the axe, that doesn't mean we'll be seeing a mass reprint of the Power 9. Just because they can doesn't mean that they will.
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If the reserved list was abolished I can see a paper set of Vintage Masters coming out. In it you could find all the cards on the list (or a lot of them) but it's going to come at a price. The price would most likely be set to $30-$50 (MSRP not marked up by retail) a pack and the print run would be so low that the value of the cards would most likely climb. This would silence the collectors due to the climb in price and it would silence everyone that wants the list to not exist.
If that never happens the next best thing would be another Magic Set with Hidden Treasures like Zendikar. This would provide at least a shot at getting these cards. Who knows though, I am taking about something that absolutely no one knows the answer to and most likely WOTC isn't sure yet either.
EDIT: I also highly doubt we would see any premium cards in the Vintage Masters paper set
WHEN the reserved list is abolished they will release ultra rare cards in such small print runs that they still wont save the formats dying of thirst for the cards which make them operate. I've played with a black lotus, you arent rally missing anything.
I own a good portion of the cards on the reserved list including the power 9. I could really care less if they reprinted those cards or not. There are a few that would lose value maybe but for the most part it wouldn't do anything to them. I would like to see them in the hands of more players.
To get back on subject I really can't wait for this set to release. Modern is such a fun format and I loved the revival of the format that happened when the first one dropped.
WHEN the reserved list is abolished they will release ultra rare cards in such small print runs that they still wont save the formats dying of thirst for the cards which make them operate. I've played with a black lotus, you arent rally missing anything.
I've played with a black lotus too, and winning with one is fun. And, there are proxy tournaments for both Legacy and Vintage, and, guess what, people are still afraid to play them because they are unfamiliar with the format. I have offered to sponsor good players at said tournaments b/c I could not attend, but people still don't want to play. People want Black Lotus and dual lands to have high priced cards, not to play in Vintage/Legacy tournaments. If people wanted to play said formats, they can easily pick up the cards for much lower costs online and play online to their hearts content. But, they don't. Finally, the SCG Legacy tournaments have pretty decent attendance (which often exceeds their modern tournaments), so I don't see a format dying of thirst.
In relationship to modern masters, abolishing the reserved list I predict would have the same effect as modern masters did with modern staples.
Tarmogoyf prior to MM was like 100$. It's like 300$ now. Vendillion Clique, cryptic command. Etc.
Sure you might see a dip in value of reserved list, but these limited print runs barely add to the card pool and create even more of a buzz and interest.
No, I predict that reprinting paper power would just cause the price to go up when there is even MORE demand afterwards.
In relationship to modern masters, abolishing the reserved list I predict would have the same effect as modern masters did with modern staples.
Tarmogoyf prior to MM was like 100$. It's like 300$ now. Vendillion Clique, cryptic command. Etc.
Sure you might see a dip in value of reserved list, but these limited print runs barely add to the card pool and create even more of a buzz and interest.
No, I predict that reprinting paper power would just cause the price to go up when there is even MORE demand afterwards.
Exactly
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WHEN the reserved list is abolished they will release ultra rare cards in such small print runs that they still wont save the formats dying of thirst for the cards which make them operate. I've played with a black lotus, you arent rally missing anything.
I've played with a black lotus too, and winning with one is fun. And, there are proxy tournaments for both Legacy and Vintage, and, guess what, people are still afraid to play them because they are unfamiliar with the format. I have offered to sponsor good players at said tournaments b/c I could not attend, but people still don't want to play. People want Black Lotus and dual lands to have high priced cards, not to play in Vintage/Legacy tournaments. If people wanted to play said formats, they can easily pick up the cards for much lower costs online and play online to their hearts content. But, they don't. Finally, the SCG Legacy tournaments have pretty decent attendance (which often exceeds their modern tournaments), so I don't see a format dying of thirst.
Hardly, most people are not willing to drop sizable sums of money on digital goods. If I want to play vintage or legacy, i'll just proxy.
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What makes me most excited about Modern Masters 2 is getting those not "Super Power" cards that everyone craves, but the reprinted rares that make interesting decks but you can't find anymore. I've been trying to make a Pyromancer Ascension deck for like two years now, and I can't find single for cheap anywhere. The price has been going up, but I've had no luck in finding a mint playset for under 10$ (believe it or not this card was really cheap at one point). The point is, I like Modern Masters for bringing me those cards at a lower price once again. I hope Pyromancer Ascension is in this bad boy!
What makes me most excited about Modern Masters 2 is getting those not "Super Power" cards that everyone craves, but the reprinted rares that make interesting decks but you can't find anymore. I've been trying to make a Pyromancer Ascension deck for like two years now, and I can't find single for cheap anywhere. The price has been going up, but I've had no luck in finding a mint playset for under 10$ (believe it or not this card was really cheap at one point). The point is, I like Modern Masters for bringing me those cards at a lower price once again. I hope Pyromancer Ascension is in this bad boy!
Yes, those type of cards will be great. Just for a $10 price tag per pack, I am hoping that it is filled with higher priced rares. There has to be some reason for the jump in price and I find it hard to believe they did it just based off the popularity of Modern Master 1. $3 is quite a jump between 2 sets.
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anyway i agree with most of what is being said here. basically:
- losing value on a small handful of overpriced staples doesn't mean a net-loss for people trading in singles. the increase in interest/buying into modern gained from a crash in the "mega money" cards will mean more cards are sold overall and will mean a less "spiky", more healthy pricing trend.
- modern could really honestly do with a big influx of cards, especially as the format is going from strength to strength and now has more players than we could have imagined a couple of years ago. The popularity of the format isn't reflected by the supply of reprints, which is causing an issue. There shouldn't be a monetary barrier to playing Modern, any more than there is for standard. If it's much more expensive, there's a problem. New or recent players wanting to get involved find they can't, simply because their wallets aren't big enough, rather than any reflection of skill or willingness to be involved in the community. that's BAD.
one of my modern decks is now worth more than two month's salary for me. that's more than 1/6th of my entire year's pay! this is a CARD GAME. it's wrong. (i hasten to add i owned the cards from when they were in standard and worth pennies... been collecting for a loong time)
generall good will around from people though. it's pleasing to see people actually being realistic about what needs to be done to help save modern from ever-increasing prices.
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Generally speaking, MoMa's reprints didn't hurt shops; the drop in prices on a few high-value cards was offset by increased demand/prices for the non-reprinted high-demand cards, and by a general rise in price of some sets as they age and become less available. Non-shop collectors and people who 'just acquired' a card generally did feel like they lost out from MoMa's reprints lowering demand/prices on cards they had acquired at higher prices. Part of what drives the game is its collectibility; if every card was always available to anyone who wants it at minimal price, the game just wouldn't be nearly as successful. Reprints damage that collectibility (although how much is open to debate); this is why people eventually begin to drift towards trying to acquire Reserved List cards, due to their collectibility being protected from reprints.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Speculation, actually. We don't know, and Wizards won't say, why the RL is being stuck to. They acknowledge that it was a mistake, but have decided to keep it for reasons they won't (can't?) discuss.
Wizards' reputation? Really, would you rather do business with a company that does what is best for their game and their customers, or one that blindly follows every misguided policy they create, refusing to make necessary changes because "we promised?" I think its irresponsible of Wizards to stick to the RL despite obvious demand, and doubly so to decide to drop support for a format rather than reprint the staple cards that would allow the format to thrive.
Cards are not money, investments, or a retirement fund, and should never have been treated as such.
Wizards made a mistake caving to speculators once, and we still pay for that mistake 2 decades later.
"Entitled:" the entire ad hominem fallacy condensed into a single word. It doesn't strengthen your argument to attack motivations, it just makes you look like you don't understand the argument.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Cards are not money, investments, or a retirement fund, and should never have been treated as such.
Wizards made a mistake caving to speculators once, and we still pay for that mistake 2 decades later.
"Entitled:" the entire ad hominem fallacy condensed into a single word. It doesn't strengthen your argument to attack motivations, it just makes you look like you don't understand the argument.
They can reprint those without any issues, but they've stated that MM15 won't contain any cards currently banned in Modern.
Cards are not money, investments, or a retirement fund, and should never have been treated as such.
Wizards made a mistake caving to speculators once, and we still pay for that mistake 2 decades later.
"Entitled:" the entire ad hominem fallacy condensed into a single word. It doesn't strengthen your argument to attack motivations, it just makes you look like you don't understand the argument.
1) Proving reliance upon the "promise." Not even if one was economically investing in the reserved list (which means they would probably have to be a card shop, which will get a majority of its sustained income from recent Wizard's product still), would I suspect this able to win or let alone even sue in court. If one is a collector, there's no chance, as this is a hobby and not an economic investment.
2) Establishing promissees. So everyone that owns a reserved list card is a promissee? No. Everyone who invests heavily into the reserved list with this in mind even? No. These are collectors, not cardboard stockbrokers.
With that in mind, I believe Wizards should honor the Reserved List. Part of the reason Magic is so stable and consistent, is because of Wizard's solidarity on how they print cards and how they support this game. We take the stable prices of this game for granted on the secondary market, but Wizard's integrity and respect is a key reason that so many of us are willing to invest as much as we do in cardboard without a fear of losing long term money. I think they should honor their Reserved List policy for one reason alone: Trust. This is also why I believe Wizards honors their word.
WotC don't give no ***** about you trade binder wolves of wall street.
As much as it hurts me, mostly because it means we'll never see the gorgeous online dual land art printed, WotC should really issue a very clear statement to collectors and mostly low volume "investors" that the only cards they won't print into open avaliability are the cards in the Reserved List. That way we get less fearmongering, less vile and foaming at the mouth from hoarders, and much bigger tournaments. A huge tournament scene and an accessible casual scene are the true lifeblood of a game, it means people will go to your LGS everyday to play and consume cards, snacks and accessories, and not just on release day to pick ***** they'll be selling online next week to your detriment.
It is speculation as to the likelihood of success or failure. However, less speculative would be the costs of any litigation. If said litigation were to proceed to the discovery point, Wizards would be subject to disclosure of its printing numbers, internal memos and emails regarding the subject, etc. It would cost them millions (if not tens of millions) to defend. Plus, their employees would be subject to depositions. It would be like the Microsoft litigation where you can watch videos of Bill Gates being deposed for hours. And, it is not as easy as you put it to get the suit dismissed out of hand. It could be filed over and over in all fifty states until a judge finds it suitable to proceed and let discovery commence. In some states, you only have to wait a short amount of time before conducting discovery. At that point, Wizards loses.
In a non-litigation sense, the elimination of the reprint policy could cause enough of a backlash that Wizards doesn't want to face. After all, part of the mystique of Magic is the scarcity of cards like Black Lotus. As demonstrated by the continual rise of sales, the Reprint policy hasn't hurt sales of current product. If you look at Vintage Masters online, it started big but eventually faded. The last time it was available online, I couldn't even get a draft to fire in under an hour.
Even if the Reserve List gets the axe, that doesn't mean we'll be seeing a mass reprint of the Power 9. Just because they can doesn't mean that they will.
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If that never happens the next best thing would be another Magic Set with Hidden Treasures like Zendikar. This would provide at least a shot at getting these cards. Who knows though, I am taking about something that absolutely no one knows the answer to and most likely WOTC isn't sure yet either.
EDIT: I also highly doubt we would see any premium cards in the Vintage Masters paper set
To get back on subject I really can't wait for this set to release. Modern is such a fun format and I loved the revival of the format that happened when the first one dropped.
I've played with a black lotus too, and winning with one is fun. And, there are proxy tournaments for both Legacy and Vintage, and, guess what, people are still afraid to play them because they are unfamiliar with the format. I have offered to sponsor good players at said tournaments b/c I could not attend, but people still don't want to play. People want Black Lotus and dual lands to have high priced cards, not to play in Vintage/Legacy tournaments. If people wanted to play said formats, they can easily pick up the cards for much lower costs online and play online to their hearts content. But, they don't. Finally, the SCG Legacy tournaments have pretty decent attendance (which often exceeds their modern tournaments), so I don't see a format dying of thirst.
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Tarmogoyf prior to MM was like 100$. It's like 300$ now. Vendillion Clique, cryptic command. Etc.
Sure you might see a dip in value of reserved list, but these limited print runs barely add to the card pool and create even more of a buzz and interest.
No, I predict that reprinting paper power would just cause the price to go up when there is even MORE demand afterwards.
Exactly
Hardly, most people are not willing to drop sizable sums of money on digital goods. If I want to play vintage or legacy, i'll just proxy.
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Yes, those type of cards will be great. Just for a $10 price tag per pack, I am hoping that it is filled with higher priced rares. There has to be some reason for the jump in price and I find it hard to believe they did it just based off the popularity of Modern Master 1. $3 is quite a jump between 2 sets.