Surprised there isn't a post for this yet. If you scroll down the imgur link to the picture with the deck lists, the white one is titled"Forged in Stone".
Officially, or ar least realistically, this means the end of some of our hopes for Serra. The Lithomancer has won, looks like that will be one less to buy for me.
Here's hoping the "Built from Scratch" red deck has a cool new walker that my Norin deck can high five at least!
It has been discussed somewhat in the "Basically entire black deck spoiled." thread in some capacity.
Indeed, as a fan, it sucks that Serra will get the shove to the side instead of Nahiri, a planeswalker who can possibly get more coverage since she still has story ties with Sorin, Ugin and Zendikar.
Who knows when will this mono-colored commander decks will be done again (as I seem to notice that those who headline the Commander Deck reflects the whole packaging of the decks, so if the next Commander product will feature multi-colored Planeswalker Commanders Serra cannot possibly vie for a slot).
Maybe Serra will be the Gisa and Geralf of the Commander 2014 products (i.e. got their cards after people kept calling out for them).
But hey! There's no harm with continued hoping. At least we can save our moneys for now.
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I won't be satisfied with Magic until I have cards of Yawgmoth, Serra, and Urza. I think anyone who played Magic pre-Modern would agree with me, they're arguably the three most important characters in Magic's first 10 years. Yawgmoth would be a monoblack Legendary Creature, Serra a monowhite Planeswalker, and Urza, well... his colors have always been up for debate.
Extort is so weird that way, but Xiahou Dun is happy to have that ghost.
I think what makes me more annoyed than Lithomancer over Serra ks the inclusion of Ajani's brother in the white deck. How many people were actually asking for him? The siblings make a lot of sense and were really asked for, and Feldon is amazing even if it wasn't. But seriously, Ajani's brother is only in there because one of the important developers likes cat tribal...
go go go Nahiri super stoked, cant wait to see what she does and how they integrate her further into the story from here
reminds me of future sight a little bit
EDIT: obviously, this is only if it is Nahiri...but cmon, seriously....its Nahiri lol
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The true mind can weather all the lies and illusions without being lost. The true heart can tough the poison of hatred without being harmed. Since beginning-less time, darkness thrives in the void but always yields to purifying light.
I invision a future where one is not mighty when he can silence a crowd with brutality,
but when he leaves them speechless with wisdom.
Can someone explain why Forged in Stone automatically means it's Nahiri over Serra?
Perhaps I'm overly optimistic but I thought of Worship and the statue in the background.
Or maybe we're getting lots of angels to compensate this blatant fail...
Somehow, I can't see an equipment deck for white...
I completely agree, more than any other speculated character Serra is beloved by so many people. Nahiri better be dead dead in the storyline because otherwise she could have gotten her own card in a real set. Ob nixilis lost his spark, and may not get it back, so a past card of him makes sense flavorwise.
It's just one more poke in the eye to their older fan base that has stuck it put this long. Freyalise slightly makes up for it at least though!
Extort is so weird that way, but Xiahou Dun is happy to have that ghost.
I think what makes me more annoyed than Lithomancer over Serra ks the inclusion of Ajani's brother in the white deck. How many people were actually asking for him? The siblings make a lot of sense and were really asked for, and Feldon is amazing even if it wasn't. But seriously, Ajani's brother is only in there because one of the important developers likes cat tribal...
Indeed, sure some people are happy to have a cat legend, but no one asked for Ajani's brother to get a card, while lots of other characters are out there that people really wanted to see.
Since the Red deck is called "Built from Scratch" (which is a godawful name), does that mean the Red planeswalker is artifact-themed? What old-walker was mono-R and dealt with artifacts?
It's just one more poke in the eye to their older fan base that has stuck it put this long. Freyalise slightly makes up for it at least though!
We're getting a set that has a Freyalise PW and a freaking card for Feldon of all people, and you're complaining that older players are getting screwed just because you're not getting the one character you specifically wanted? 20 Dollar Bill principle in full effect.
It's just one more poke in the eye to their older fan base that has stuck it put this long. Freyalise slightly makes up for it at least though!
We're getting a set that has a Freyalise PW and a freaking card for Feldon of all people, and you're complaining that older players are getting screwed just because you're not getting the one character you specifically wanted? 20 Dollar Bill principle in full effect.
I couldn't agree more. I'm personally happy that Jazal got a rather good card.
As for Red being an older character, it would seem even the Planeswalker Commander will be "Built From Scratch" since 3 are plainly from Magic's past, that would be Teferi, Ob Nixilis, and Freyalise. We know one, but not by name, that would be Nahiri, as the crew doesn't quite admit that we've already put 2 and 2 together. Another will be a newly introduced walker who hails from a familiar plane.
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It's just one more poke in the eye to their older fan base that has stuck it put this long. Freyalise slightly makes up for it at least though!
We're getting a set that has a Freyalise PW and a freaking card for Feldon of all people, and you're complaining that older players are getting screwed just because you're not getting the one character you specifically wanted? 20 Dollar Bill principle in full effect.
I don't think older players are getting screwed. Each set seem to getting a new and an old legendary character. Blue gets Teferi (old) and Geraft (new) and black gets Ob (old), Drana (old ?) and Gisa (new). White is getting what? Nahira (old or new?), Jazal (new), and...
It's just one more poke in the eye to their older fan base that has stuck it put this long. Freyalise slightly makes up for it at least though!
We're getting a set that has a Freyalise PW and a freaking card for Feldon of all people, and you're complaining that older players are getting screwed just because you're not getting the one character you specifically wanted? 20 Dollar Bill principle in full effect.
Wow, angry much?
First off, calm down. This is my opinion, and yes I am complaining about no Serra, I think it's perfectly normal to be disappointed. Am I calling for a boycott of Wizards? No. Take a look around the boards, it's not just me disappointed. To jump down someone's throat when they voice their opinion is disingenuous and rude, especially using the tired $20 bill argument.
It's alright to disagree, just don't try and start a flame war with aggressive responses. Breath dude, in the end it's just a card game.
...says the guy who is talking about being poked in the eye because he didn't get the one card he wanted. Calling a guy angry 3 or 4 times isn't exactly showing off a ton of insight, since it doesn't appear that he or she was angry in the first place. Reminds me of the "u mad bro?" trolls in online games.
I'm really excited for the white deck, but I have to admit that I'm most interested in the red one. I've been fooling around with a Bosh, Iron Golem deck forever!
I'm more annoyed about how Jazal's card could have been any creature at all, and his ability has nothing to do with his character or cat tribal. Same for Freyalise. Retrofitting cool characters to super generic card designs is so lame.
...says the guy who is talking about being poked in the eye because he didn't get the one card he wanted. Calling a guy angry 3 or 4 times isn't exactly showing off a ton of insight, since it doesn't appear that he or she was angry in the first place. Reminds me of the "u mad bro?" trolls in online games.
I'm really excited for the white deck, but I have to admit that I'm most interested in the red one. I've been fooling around with a Bosh, Iron Golem deck forever!
Could my response have been better, sure, I'll concede the point. I'm just not a fan of the $20 bill throw away line the forums use when someone doesn't like another posts opinion.
I'm curious as to what they were thinking when including Nahiri in the first place. I had thought this set was supposed to exist outside of the main story arc? Why are they introducing an important character who is theoretically still relevant to the story in a commander product at all? She could easily get printed in an expert set during the inevitable return to Zendikar, where she can come into full focus. Or do you think she will get printed both here and in an expert set? I honestly don't get it.
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I'm curious as to what they were thinking when including Nahiri in the first place. I had thought this set was supposed to exist outside of the main story arc? Why are they introducing an important character who is theoretically still relevant to the story in a commander product at all? She could easily get printed in an expert set during the inevitable return to Zendikar, where she can come into full focus. Or do you think she will get printed both here and in an expert set? I honestly don't get it.
Have you even considered the possibility that she's dead?
I'm curious as to what they were thinking when including Nahiri in the first place. I had thought this set was supposed to exist outside of the main story arc? Why are they introducing an important character who is theoretically still relevant to the story in a commander product at all? She could easily get printed in an expert set during the inevitable return to Zendikar, where she can come into full focus. Or do you think she will get printed both here and in an expert set? I honestly don't get it.
They wanted to introduce who they were before they use them in the Return to Zendikar, which makes a lot of sense from a marketing stand point. If your audience is now familiar with the characters, they will respond better with higher sales later on. It's brilliant marketing imo, and Ob Nixilis is actually pretty neat I think.
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Surprised there isn't a post for this yet. If you scroll down the imgur link to the picture with the deck lists, the white one is titled"Forged in Stone".
Officially, or ar least realistically, this means the end of some of our hopes for Serra. The Lithomancer has won, looks like that will be one less to buy for me.
Here's hoping the "Built from Scratch" red deck has a cool new walker that my Norin deck can high five at least!
Indeed, as a fan, it sucks that Serra will get the shove to the side instead of Nahiri, a planeswalker who can possibly get more coverage since she still has story ties with Sorin, Ugin and Zendikar.
Who knows when will this mono-colored commander decks will be done again (as I seem to notice that those who headline the Commander Deck reflects the whole packaging of the decks, so if the next Commander product will feature multi-colored Planeswalker Commanders Serra cannot possibly vie for a slot).
Maybe Serra will be the Gisa and Geralf of the Commander 2014 products (i.e. got their cards after people kept calling out for them).
But hey! There's no harm with continued hoping. At least we can save our moneys for now.
Serra Stan - Angel Enthusiast - Garruk and Tyvar thirsty follower - Flavor and Art Enthusiast
Major flavor fail...
Reminder text doesn't count towards color identity.
I think what makes me more annoyed than Lithomancer over Serra ks the inclusion of Ajani's brother in the white deck. How many people were actually asking for him? The siblings make a lot of sense and were really asked for, and Feldon is amazing even if it wasn't. But seriously, Ajani's brother is only in there because one of the important developers likes cat tribal...
reminds me of future sight a little bit
EDIT: obviously, this is only if it is Nahiri...but cmon, seriously....its Nahiri lol
I invision a future where one is not mighty when he can silence a crowd with brutality,
but when he leaves them speechless with wisdom.
Perhaps I'm overly optimistic but I thought of Worship and the statue in the background.
Or maybe we're getting lots of angels to compensate this blatant fail...
Somehow, I can't see an equipment deck for white...
So sad...
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It's just one more poke in the eye to their older fan base that has stuck it put this long. Freyalise slightly makes up for it at least though!
Indeed, sure some people are happy to have a cat legend, but no one asked for Ajani's brother to get a card, while lots of other characters are out there that people really wanted to see.
We're getting a set that has a Freyalise PW and a freaking card for Feldon of all people, and you're complaining that older players are getting screwed just because you're not getting the one character you specifically wanted? 20 Dollar Bill principle in full effect.
As for Red being an older character, it would seem even the Planeswalker Commander will be "Built From Scratch" since 3 are plainly from Magic's past, that would be Teferi, Ob Nixilis, and Freyalise. We know one, but not by name, that would be Nahiri, as the crew doesn't quite admit that we've already put 2 and 2 together. Another will be a newly introduced walker who hails from a familiar plane.
I don't think older players are getting screwed. Each set seem to getting a new and an old legendary character. Blue gets Teferi (old) and Geraft (new) and black gets Ob (old), Drana (old ?) and Gisa (new). White is getting what? Nahira (old or new?), Jazal (new), and...
Wow, angry much?
First off, calm down. This is my opinion, and yes I am complaining about no Serra, I think it's perfectly normal to be disappointed. Am I calling for a boycott of Wizards? No. Take a look around the boards, it's not just me disappointed. To jump down someone's throat when they voice their opinion is disingenuous and rude, especially using the tired $20 bill argument.
It's alright to disagree, just don't try and start a flame war with aggressive responses. Breath dude, in the end it's just a card game.
I'm really excited for the white deck, but I have to admit that I'm most interested in the red one. I've been fooling around with a Bosh, Iron Golem deck forever!
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Could my response have been better, sure, I'll concede the point. I'm just not a fan of the $20 bill throw away line the forums use when someone doesn't like another posts opinion.
Tldr: Sorry
Have you even considered the possibility that she's dead?
They wanted to introduce who they were before they use them in the Return to Zendikar, which makes a lot of sense from a marketing stand point. If your audience is now familiar with the characters, they will respond better with higher sales later on. It's brilliant marketing imo, and Ob Nixilis is actually pretty neat I think.