Yeah, and imagine how crappy you'll feel if the card you get is the intro pack rare.
Yeah, if you pick Temur, you can get a Surrak Dragonclaw foil... or an Avalanche Tusker foil... :|
I don't think the Khans are promos... But you should get a chance to open them in the respective seeded booster.
They've already confirmed that the Khans are a possible promo of the 40 you can get.
There's no information on if they will have alternate art or not since we do have alternate art of them from the trailer. I'm not sure how I'd feel if they did have alternate arts while the other promos didn't; I'd definitely love to have an alternate art Anafenza with the trailer art though.
So it isn't like the older prerelease cards; we aren't 100% getting the intro pack rare, right?
Yes , we get one rare in the sealed pack and it is the promo that is "random".
And where can we see that this is how it works? Because the file with the content of the prerelease kits only says "1 seeded booster pack, including a promo card", which only means the promo is inside the package of that booster (as usual), not that there is no normal rare... if this should be the case, prerelease kits should cost a little less because, to be realistic, they lose 1/7 of their value...
I'm curious about where this information comes from as well. Was it from the Comic Con panel or something?
Lame so we get the terrible dragon throne, which we can't play, no second rare, and no alternate art.
dragon throne is the !RELEASE!-Promo, not the !PRE-RELEASE! Promo. You will get any rare/mythic possible with your clan.
btw: how did we get the info that there will only be 1 rare in the seeded pack this time? i actualy still dont believe this, untill i see this information confirmed.
i still think that we will get 1 promo with a timestamp and *****, and 1 rare fitting our clan, like we got in ravnica for example.
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The following information is known about the pre-release packs:
-The prerelease foil will not have alternate art, but it will be stamped with the pre-release date
Do we have a source for this? I've heard several rumors that the Khans will have alternate art corresponding to their trailer arts, and I really want the Zurgo from the trailer to be a thing (his other two arts are hideous).
Well, instead of "normal rare + very bad foil promo for everyone" we will receive "random foil rare with date"
I think, KTK version is better, especially if the Khans will be among promos.
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The following information is known about the pre-release packs:
-Each seeded pack will only have one rare/mythic card in it, the pre-release foil.
-The prerelease foil will not have alternate art, but it will be stamped with the pre-release date
-The cards that show up as a pre-release promo are not necessarily restricted to the cards watermarked for that clan. Utter End, for instance, can show up in one of the packs. More information will be added here when it is received. End hi-jack
Do we have a source for this? Seems strange to get any card of the clan color (given that clans have AT LEAST 8 rares with the watermark on them)
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So it isn't like the older prerelease cards; we aren't 100% getting the intro pack rare, right?
Yes , we get one rare in the sealed pack and it is the promo that is "random".
And where can we see that this is how it works? Because the file with the content of the prerelease kits only says "1 seeded booster pack, including a promo card", which only means the promo is inside the package of that booster (as usual), not that there is no normal rare... if this should be the case, prerelease kits should cost a little less because, to be realistic, they lose 1/7 of their value...
1/7 of their value? last time i chequed no one gave a **** to the prerelease promos ( that now are the "other rare" of the seeded booster, and while it has no special art, all the intro pack 'front' rare are promos with special art)
Also its not confirmed that there is only one rare in the pack , but anyone that has played sealed(prerelease pool) knows that people went choosing packs bassed only on the promo rare....
The sources wishes to remain anonymous, but he is a reliable one. This is the same source that provided the rumor about the handful of reprints in KTK.
I see. Well, I hoped the promo would have been a watermarked card, but we'll see.
Anyway, today the offical MtG italian Facebook page will post a video of the opening of a prerelease pack, so we will see something
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Some other information/confirmation:
- If you get a Khan as a promo, it will be stamped as any other promo.
- If you get a Khan as a promo, it will have the same art found in boosters. It sucks, I know.
- They've changed how seeded booster are made, and they have just 1 rare OR MR (Khan) and it will be the 1st card you see in the booster.
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Honestly, I think that this is a step up from the Theros block pre-releases, where the promo was also the intro deck card foil and therefore guaranteed to have a value of about $1. At least here you have a guaranteed foil chosen from most of the rares of the set, so there's a decent chance it could be valuable (if it's a Khan, Butcher of the Horde, Crackling Doom, maybe the Ascendancy, Utter End, etc).
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I am torn, but it seems like they do listen to feedback.
The worst is that we will be down one rare, and there will be a greater number of people who can't play their clan. This is Wizards trying to balance the desire of the enfranchised with their goal for new players' experience. Alt art is still a big deal for me so I am a little bummed.
The good news is that I wont face a butcher of the horde, or other broken card, in 40% of decks.
I can get over the loss of one rare, but now it feels like they have ended the promo program completely for predeceases. At least give me a foil land like in DGM.
I wish my 4/4s with haste and first strike that acted as Goblin Warchiefs were better and didn't die to instants and overshadowed all other 4 drops in the format. And that they had evasion too, and some way to dodge wrath effects.
I think 40 alternate arts might have been cost-prohibitive.
Fair point. I wouldn't expect 40 alternate-art cards at all.
On the other hand, it seems like they already have alternate art for the khans, so I wonder what else that's being held for. Just the trailer? I doubt it - that seems like even more of a waste of resources than alternate art promos.
Instead of everybody who chooses the same clan getting the same Prerelease rare, instead there is a subset of eight different foil Prerelease rares per clan that you could receive. You'll still get a take-away card from the event that's stamped with the date—but it'll feel a bit more unique than the old Prerelease cards.
I'm not going to tell you what they all are, but rest assured there are small creatures, big creatures, and spells alike. Oh, and every clan has the chance to open up its clan leader as its Prerelease card! As far as what the other seven are, head to a Prerelease and see what you get firsthand.
You horrible, sad, entitled people are so pathetic. Cry more, please.... because you are going to do it anyway. Waaaaaaaaah I want 2 rares in my booster pack! Boo freaking hooo. It is like none of you remember 3 or 4 years ago.
I thought it was clear that I was referring to the other seeded pack rare, not the promo. You could really get useful and valuable cards from the seeded pack: just to mention some of the cards I picked from RTR, I got Loxodon Smiter, Boros Reckoner and Hero's Downfall. It seems very clear to me that missing one chance out of 6 boosters to get a valuable card lowers the money value of the prerelease pack. If that were the case, I only hope I won't end up with an Icy Blast or a Meandering Towershell...
Hero's Downfall was from Theros and Boros Reckoner was from Gatecrash. Not sure what prerelease you went to during RTR. I sure want to join as well. Is it the Future Future League???
Magic's Facebook just posted a video of a Temur box being opened. It does indeed show only 1 rare in the seeded pack, and the rare is just a foil, time-stamped version with regular art. Just in case anyone wanted some more confirmation
Instead of everybody who chooses the same clan getting the same Prerelease rare, instead there is a subset of eight different foil Prerelease rares per clan that you could receive. You'll still get a take-away card from the event that's stamped with the date—but it'll feel a bit more unique than the old Prerelease cards.
I'm not going to tell you what they all are, but rest assured there are small creatures, big creatures, and spells alike. Oh, and every clan has the chance to open up its clan leader as its Prerelease card! As far as what the other seven are, head to a Prerelease and see what you get firsthand.
A bit more unique.....they will just be regular foils with a time stamp on them. Thats no where as unique as the promos for RtR where each guild got it's own promo. Literally the only reason to go to a prerelease now is to either get to play the game early in limited or to put a sticker of your name on a sheet. Wow, I used to attend them for awesome promos.
My response to this (the policy, not your post) is...eh.
The promo was kinda nice, but they were often not cards I was going to use anyway, so they weren't really the point of going. Neither were dice, stickers, flavorful letters from the guild of my choice or anything else. I went to play Magic, and I still get to do that. (And hopefully my friends and I win enough packs overall to go home and draft.)
Yeah, you've got to think this as less of a "Here's a bonus promo" and more of "One of your rares will be a guaranteed foil with a date stamp (and selected from a smaller pool)"
I think it's a decent compromise between having highly-playable cards guaranteed (like Wurmcoil Engine or Phyrexian Metamorph) that end up devaluing a specific mythic, and having nearly-worthless cards (intro deck rares)
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The only MR you can open is the Khan ...
Althought Foil Empity the Pits with date on it would be soo cool
Ugh.
They've already confirmed that the Khans are a possible promo of the 40 you can get.
There's no information on if they will have alternate art or not since we do have alternate art of them from the trailer. I'm not sure how I'd feel if they did have alternate arts while the other promos didn't; I'd definitely love to have an alternate art Anafenza with the trailer art though.
I'm curious about where this information comes from as well. Was it from the Comic Con panel or something?
dragon throne is the !RELEASE!-Promo, not the !PRE-RELEASE! Promo. You will get any rare/mythic possible with your clan.
btw: how did we get the info that there will only be 1 rare in the seeded pack this time? i actualy still dont believe this, untill i see this information confirmed.
i still think that we will get 1 promo with a timestamp and *****, and 1 rare fitting our clan, like we got in ravnica for example.
Do we have a source for this? I've heard several rumors that the Khans will have alternate art corresponding to their trailer arts, and I really want the Zurgo from the trailer to be a thing (his other two arts are hideous).
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I think, KTK version is better, especially if the Khans will be among promos.
Do we have a source for this? Seems strange to get any card of the clan color (given that clans have AT LEAST 8 rares with the watermark on them)
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1/7 of their value? last time i chequed no one gave a **** to the prerelease promos ( that now are the "other rare" of the seeded booster, and while it has no special art, all the intro pack 'front' rare are promos with special art)
Also its not confirmed that there is only one rare in the pack , but anyone that has played sealed(prerelease pool) knows that people went choosing packs bassed only on the promo rare....
I see. Well, I hoped the promo would have been a watermarked card, but we'll see.
Anyway, today the offical MtG italian Facebook page will post a video of the opening of a prerelease pack, so we will see something
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Some other information/confirmation:
- If you get a Khan as a promo, it will be stamped as any other promo.
- If you get a Khan as a promo, it will have the same art found in boosters. It sucks, I know.
- They've changed how seeded booster are made, and they have just 1 rare OR MR (Khan) and it will be the 1st card you see in the booster.
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The worst is that we will be down one rare, and there will be a greater number of people who can't play their clan. This is Wizards trying to balance the desire of the enfranchised with their goal for new players' experience. Alt art is still a big deal for me so I am a little bummed.
The good news is that I wont face a butcher of the horde, or other broken card, in 40% of decks.
I can get over the loss of one rare, but now it feels like they have ended the promo program completely for predeceases. At least give me a foil land like in DGM.
We might finally get some variety in sealed, which I'm excited about.
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This. I want Anafenza with the art in the trailer, although I guess there won't be alternate art :/
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Fair point. I wouldn't expect 40 alternate-art cards at all.
On the other hand, it seems like they already have alternate art for the khans, so I wonder what else that's being held for. Just the trailer? I doubt it - that seems like even more of a waste of resources than alternate art promos.
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My response to this (the policy, not your post) is...eh.
The promo was kinda nice, but they were often not cards I was going to use anyway, so they weren't really the point of going. Neither were dice, stickers, flavorful letters from the guild of my choice or anything else. I went to play Magic, and I still get to do that. (And hopefully my friends and I win enough packs overall to go home and draft.)
I think it's a decent compromise between having highly-playable cards guaranteed (like Wurmcoil Engine or Phyrexian Metamorph) that end up devaluing a specific mythic, and having nearly-worthless cards (intro deck rares)
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