The morph is good at keeping this guy safe (or at least safer), throw it in a deck with a few other morphs like Ruthless Ripper and this could be a real surprise play, unmorph it mid-combat and watch all your traded creatures draw you cards or unmorph it in response to a wrath effect (apart from Anger of the Gods obviously) and it'll draw you back into gas. Good card I can't imagine this not seeing some sort of play, the only question will be how much and how successfully.
If you look at similar effect like Blood Artist, any creature that would die at the same time as the creature with the trigger effect, will effectively activate the trigger.
If Blood Artist and one or more other creatures die at the same time, its ability will trigger for each of those creatures.
I think an Athreos deck now seems viable (T2 at least ?) based on the monoB aggro archetype. You just remove the big flying demon coz Athreos is more efficient with small creatures.
This is the kind of Morph design I like. You can play it face-up and not feel bad about it at all, or you can play it face-down for some evil mind games and surprise card advantage. Wizards, more like this one, please.
I like it, though I'm not sure how Ill make it fit in MBA. Our three drops already include Mogis's Marauder, Herald of Torment, Master of the Feasts, and (possibly) Agent of the Fates. I'll definitely try, though.
I think an Athreos deck now seems viable (T2 at least ?) based on the monoB aggro archetype. You just remove the big flying demon coz Athreos is more efficient with small creatures.
I think if MBA wanted to splash for white it would be more for stuff like Hero of Iroas. In my experience, Athreos looks way better on paper than he actually performs, though to be fair, I never tried him in an aggro shell. So I don't know. Maybe it'll be his time to shine.
Splashing white is good for all the removal it offers. Hero of Iroas is also nice on paper, but I would see him only at one exemplar in a MBA.
Athreos needs some testing. When you give the choice to your opponent it is normally bad, unless you build your deck around it. That's why there is so many 1 and 2 drops in my list, to flood the board and force the opponent to start paying life.
Return to the ranks is also nice as a backup plan. With still one or 2 creatures on the board you can easily reanimate between 2 and 4 creatures.
The morph mechanic on this card will win games in Limited. Magic runs on the slimmest of margins nowadays, and if you can hide that one of your creatures will trade 2-for-1 with a creature or one of their removal spells, you can potentially swing a game. Since they opted not to allow this guy to draw you a card when he dies, the morph prevents him from being a straight up, "2B: Trades with removal spell." People don't usually point removal at face down creatures (unless they are Guillaume Wafo-Tapa). In Constructed, the morph's usefulness will depend on whether there are enough legit morph creatures to legitimately fool someone, but it doesn't hurt the card.
It might be just an impression, but I do see a few hearthstone cards in these Khan designs! Cult Master here, for example.
Um, no. There have been Magic cards like this in the past. The only cue MTG can take from Hearthstone is a better interface for MTGO. The mere suggestion that they have anything to learn from Hearthstone's vastly inferior card design is foolish - it'd be like an NFL coach heading to a peewee football game to see if there are any new plays he can put to use in the pros. Not to mention that Khans development took place before Hearthstone existed.
Anyway, this card is obviously awesome. A 3/2 for 3 is a fine sized body for all of this value and if you draw him with 4 mana, you're almost certain to get surprise value (assuming there's any other morph card the deck would play) out of his ability.
Ooh I really want to make some B/W brew with this guy, Athreos and all of the other cheap B/W goodies
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Good card is good. Not sure that it breaks anything or is eternal playable, but it joins the ranks of two similar cards (the Black enchantment form M14 and Fecundity) providing a very useful combo effect. Very nice.
Um it's got a cmc of 3 but a morph of 4? Why bother then? So you can surprise your opponent?
Disregarding likeliness and playability, just assume you have both this and Ruthless Ripper, while your opponent has a removal spell.
Situation a) Both are face-up. Your opponent kills this and is happy with himself.
Situation b) Both are face-down. Your opponent possibly tries to kill the Ripper. You can turn it up for 2 damage, then turn this one up to draw a card. No player would kill the Ripper first if he would now the other card is the Haruspex.
Or you play him in a multicolored deck and don't have black when you want to play him first. There are many reasons to play this morphed, so even if you won't do it most of the time, it's good to have the option.
Why is the flavor of this block so much better than Theros, even though this set is not "top-down?"
Because being top-down or bottom-up does not necessarily correlate to the flavor's quality, just the direction the set was designed in. And, you know, because good flavor is subjective.
Can someone answer a question for me? Why does this draw you cards when your opponent Wraths you? Is it because you can decide which creatures hit the graveyard first, making sure that Grim Haruspex is the last to hit the graveyard? Or does it all happen at the same time?
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I think if MBA wanted to splash for white it would be more for stuff like Hero of Iroas. In my experience, Athreos looks way better on paper than he actually performs, though to be fair, I never tried him in an aggro shell. So I don't know. Maybe it'll be his time to shine.
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Athreos needs some testing. When you give the choice to your opponent it is normally bad, unless you build your deck around it. That's why there is so many 1 and 2 drops in my list, to flood the board and force the opponent to start paying life.
Return to the ranks is also nice as a backup plan. With still one or 2 creatures on the board you can easily reanimate between 2 and 4 creatures.
This card is great. Mind-games, check. EDH and probably Standard playable, check. Great creature typing (wizard), check.
Um, no. There have been Magic cards like this in the past. The only cue MTG can take from Hearthstone is a better interface for MTGO. The mere suggestion that they have anything to learn from Hearthstone's vastly inferior card design is foolish - it'd be like an NFL coach heading to a peewee football game to see if there are any new plays he can put to use in the pros. Not to mention that Khans development took place before Hearthstone existed.
Anyway, this card is obviously awesome. A 3/2 for 3 is a fine sized body for all of this value and if you draw him with 4 mana, you're almost certain to get surprise value (assuming there's any other morph card the deck would play) out of his ability.
Harvester of Souls has existed for a while now. It really is just an impression.
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UBG Tasigur, the lab enabler UR Planeswalker Control
UBRW Breya's personal box of combos BRW Vampire beats, by Dre
1 Karn, where all lands are command towers UBR Inalla's Venser lock
UBRGW Atog Atog contraption tribal WUB Xur's second chance
UGW Derivi, bird tribal R Brother's Yamazaki
BRG Prosh, the scourge of multiplayer GW Capt. Sisay's Deck Dumping Service
UB All Your Spells do Belong to Me UG Tapioca Pearl
BG Meren's grinder
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Disregarding likeliness and playability, just assume you have both this and Ruthless Ripper, while your opponent has a removal spell.
Situation a) Both are face-up. Your opponent kills this and is happy with himself.
Situation b) Both are face-down. Your opponent possibly tries to kill the Ripper. You can turn it up for 2 damage, then turn this one up to draw a card. No player would kill the Ripper first if he would now the other card is the Haruspex.
Or you play him in a multicolored deck and don't have black when you want to play him first. There are many reasons to play this morphed, so even if you won't do it most of the time, it's good to have the option.
Still work normally against drown in sorrow, since the creatures still die (or am I missing some detail here?)
Because being top-down or bottom-up does not necessarily correlate to the flavor's quality, just the direction the set was designed in. And, you know, because good flavor is subjective.
Could see play in hearthless summonings in modern.
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