How exactly would this work? Let's say Player A unmorphs Master of Pearls. What would be the effect of Player B trying to cast Bile Blight in response to the trigger?
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How exactly would this work? Let's say Player A unmorphs Master of Pearls. What would be the effect of Player B trying to cast Bile Blight in response to the trigger?
I quess:
- Trigger +2/+2 goes to the stack
- Bile Blight goes to the stack
- Bile Blight resolves, Master of Pearls dies
- Trigger resolves, +2/+2 to everything
How exactly would this work? Let's say Player A unmorphs Master of Pearls. What would be the effect of Player B trying to cast Bile Blight in response to the trigger?
In response to the morph up trigger, you get to kill the Master or a bunch of identical 2/2 tokens.
First thought was ooooh, a merfolk? Then I realized how unlikely that was and this popped into my head: http://youtu.be/-UbB-Q1Xunw?t=3s
Forgot all about these guys from the planeswalker's guide. As far as how good it is? meh. This guy is grizzly bears. If I want a 5 mana +2/+2 to the team combat trick I'd rather have Dictate of Heliod. If the format somehow ends up hostile to enchantments but not creatures, this could be better, but I find that extremely unlikely. Even still playing this then unmorphing it is gray ogre + Swell of Courage, not a sequence designed to wow the crowd.
I guess it's still technically a dictate of heliod, so it's probably not quite as bad as it seems at first glance.
It's actually technically a Dictate of Heliod that says "When ~ comes into play put a 2/2 white human monk creature token with haste into play. Sacrifice ~ at end of turn."
I know that the comparison is faulty for many reasons, but these cards feel like they have slow Kicker to me. As in, you can play them as vanilla creatures early, or you can play them face-down and then flip them in case you have spare mana and get an effect in the process. While I do see how interesting it is in shaping the Limited environment, I wish these cards would be a bit more exciting in case I have neither mana nor time to play them face-down. Know that story about Grizzly Bears being better than Kavu Titans because you don't want to hold them in your hand forever? It's going to feel very bad to play these guys face-up.
I think this card is much better than people think. Kind of like how Bestow was a cool ability because you could get the creature when you wnated it or get the ability, this guy fits that same line. If you are trying to curve out, playing him turn 2 isn't that bad. If you don't have a three-drop, you can play him turn three, and have the option of an uncounterable pump spell turn 5. For an aggro deck, everything is about curving out as efficiently as possible. While he isn't the best three drop or two drop, he is respectable because he gives you a choice between the two. You can't really compare this to Dictate of Heliod, because that can never be a two-mana 2/2. If you want any value from it, you must wait until turn 5; this you could run as a three or four-of, because you can get some value more consistently. This will never be an gamebreaking card, but I could see it being a reasonable role player in constructed and very good in limited.
How exactly would this work? Let's say Player A unmorphs Master of Pearls. What would be the effect of Player B trying to cast Bile Blight in response to the trigger?
In response to the morph up trigger, you get to kill the Master or a bunch of identical 2/2 tokens.
Flipping the creature doesn't use the stack so you wont nab all the morphed creatures, additionally I don't believe morphed creatures even have a name so I'm not sure bile blight wrecks them all. The only triggers on these cards are when flipped do X. If anything paying the cost to flip a creature would be an activated ability not a trigger. Activated abilities you have to pay for, triggers happen due to an event like the phases in a turn changing, being turned face up, or being placed onto the battlefield etc.
This set makes me hate morph more than I did before. What went wrong if you are not morphing this guy? Why the hell are you durdling if you DO morph him???
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Morph cards in general are too overcosted to be good in standard. They require a three mana investment + the morph cost. That's a lot of mana and usually time to invest in what is going to be a 2/2 for at least one turn. The only morph cards that are good are ones with really cheap morph costs and a good effect and ones that are playable without casting them as morph creatures (like the hydra and phoenix so far). I always thought morph was a cool mechanic for limited but really 'meh' for constructed, and this set has just reinforced that for me.
Morph cards in general are too overcosted to be good in standard. They require a three mana investment + the morph cost. That's a lot of mana and usually time to invest in what is going to be a 2/2 for at least one turn. The only morph cards that are good are ones with really cheap morph costs and a good effect and ones that are playable without casting them as morph creatures (like the hydra and phoenix so far). I always thought morph was a cool mechanic for limited but really 'meh' for constructed, and this set has just reinforced that for me.
The problem is that Wizards doesn't consider the cost to play a creature face down as a part of the cost to unmorph a creature. Unless there is something that turns creatures face down, for a lowish price, in the set, every morph cost is actually X+3 where X is whatever colored and colorless mana to unmorph the creature.
Oh man, this guy is so good and under-coasted, he's fine at rare because he would be so broken at uncommon with a five coasted morph ability.
Just kidding, he's just another rare that should have been an uncommon or not printed at all so as to not take a rare slot.
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"I'd say this about guarantees that it won't be up till this Friday, but considering the current track record, the ETA is now probably two weeks after the set has been out."
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Speak for yourself, if drawing *****-headed wurms makes social justice warriors cry I'll make it my favorite hobby.
Morph has always been heinously overcosted, with two notable exceptions. That's not gonna change, and it's not ever going to be good outside of limited for that reason. Stop complaining about it.
According to the Planeswalker's Guide, the pearls disappear hours after their battles. I assume they're magically created and hard to maintain.
I quess:
- Trigger +2/+2 goes to the stack
- Bile Blight goes to the stack
- Bile Blight resolves, Master of Pearls dies
- Trigger resolves, +2/+2 to everything
game goes on
In response to the morph up trigger, you get to kill the Master or a bunch of identical 2/2 tokens.
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Forgot all about these guys from the planeswalker's guide. As far as how good it is? meh. This guy is grizzly bears. If I want a 5 mana +2/+2 to the team combat trick I'd rather have Dictate of Heliod. If the format somehow ends up hostile to enchantments but not creatures, this could be better, but I find that extremely unlikely. Even still playing this then unmorphing it is gray ogre + Swell of Courage, not a sequence designed to wow the crowd.
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It's a White Instant P/T mass boost for 5 mana that doesn't cost you an card.
It's actually technically a Dictate of Heliod that says "When ~ comes into play put a 2/2 white human monk creature token with haste into play. Sacrifice ~ at end of turn."
Flipping the creature doesn't use the stack so you wont nab all the morphed creatures, additionally I don't believe morphed creatures even have a name so I'm not sure bile blight wrecks them all. The only triggers on these cards are when flipped do X. If anything paying the cost to flip a creature would be an activated ability not a trigger. Activated abilities you have to pay for, triggers happen due to an event like the phases in a turn changing, being turned face up, or being placed onto the battlefield etc.
UR Melek, Izzet ParagonUR, B Shirei, Shizo's CaretakerB, R Jaya Ballard, Task MageR,RW Tajic, Blade of the LegionRW, UB Lazav, Dimir MastermindUB, UB Circu, Dimir LobotomistUB, RWU Zedruu the GreatheartedRWU, GUBThe MimeoplasmGUB, UGExperiment Kraj UG, WDarien, King of KjeldorW, BMarrow-GnawerB, WBGKarador, Ghost ChieftainWBG, UTeferi, Temporal ArchmageU, GWUDerevi, Empyrial TacticianGWU, RDaretti, Scrap SavantR, UTalrand, Sky SummonerU, GEzuri, Renegade LeaderG, WUBRGReaper KingWUBRG, RGXenagos, God of RevelsRG, CKozilek, Butcher of TruthC, WUBRGGeneral TazriWUBRG, GTitania, Protector of ArgothG
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The problem is that Wizards doesn't consider the cost to play a creature face down as a part of the cost to unmorph a creature. Unless there is something that turns creatures face down, for a lowish price, in the set, every morph cost is actually X+3 where X is whatever colored and colorless mana to unmorph the creature.
Oh man, this guy is so good and under-coasted, he's fine at rare because he would be so broken at uncommon with a five coasted morph ability.
Just kidding, he's just another rare that should have been an uncommon or not printed at all so as to not take a rare slot.
"I'd say this about guarantees that it won't be up till this Friday, but considering the current track record, the ETA is now probably two weeks after the set has been out."
Quote from Sirius_B
Speak for yourself, if drawing *****-headed wurms makes social justice warriors cry I'll make it my favorite hobby.
Why do people think that if we take out all bad rares out of the set, the rare slots they were taking would be filled with amazing staples?