So are they going to sell the 4 duel decks individually? I don't see this being sold in big box stores being viable otherwise. There's just not a lot of shelf space dedicated to tcgs in those places, and they have never put 80 dollar product in those sections before (correct me if I'm wrong)
I'm getting the vibe that these are going to be like From the Vault print runs.
So are they going to sell the 4 duel decks individually? I don't see this being sold in big box stores being viable otherwise. There's just not a lot of shelf space dedicated to tcgs in those places, and they have never put 80 dollar product in those sections before (correct me if I'm wrong)
I'm getting the vibe that these are going to be like From the Vault print runs.
You could very easily fit 8 decks into the deckbuilder toolkit box, and almost every walmart has a half dozen of those on the shelf, not to mention they stocked the hell out of the holiday gift boxes which are a lot of wasted space for just 4 boosters.
I think the issue might be more with pricing than with shelf space. Is the average Walmart shopper going to want to spend $80 on a TCG product? Don't get me wrong, I would love for this to be available at big box stores, I'm just wondering if they'll see it as a viable investment.
Elspeth is actually lower then she has been in a long time since they put her in the first modern Event Deck and Modern Masters.
She's still more expensive than Chandra Nalaar, Jace Beleren or any of the other DD face cards (except Akroma). Despite having had four printings now she's still about $10 and is one of those walkers that you can never really have enough printings of because she's just that good and supply will always dry up quickly. Tezzeret hasn't been reprinted since that DD either and he's more expensive than Elspeth now. It would be nice to see the deck out there again.
Elspeth is actually lower then she has been in a long time since they put her in the first modern Event Deck and Modern Masters.
She's still more expensive than Chandra Nalaar, Jace Beleren or any of the other DD face cards (except Akroma). Despite having had four printings now she's still about $10 and is one of those walkers that you can never really have enough printings of because she's just that good and supply will always dry up quickly. Tezzeret hasn't been reprinted since that DD either and he's more expensive than Elspeth now. It would be nice to see the deck out there again.
This is clearly due to usability, I mean Chandra Nalaar is a joke as far as competitive play is concerned. Jace Beleren has more of a shot of seeing some minor play and he is only slightly cheaper than the cheapest version of Elspeth. 4 mana Elspeth is an all-time great planeswalker no wonder she has trouble dropping in value...
If all of Elspeth's reprints so far haven't lowered her price, one more won't do much to help.
They HAVE lowered her price and another printing might help keep it low. Also keep in mind there has only been one printing of the DD version which has alternate art, of course. Personally I prefer the original art, but again, I'd like to have another copy of the deck. I need another Elspeth, I need another Tezzeret, I can never have enough Swords to Plowshares and Steel Overseer is a $10+ card now too. I think it's just as good a choice as Garruk v Liliana, which doesn't really have anything of value other than the planeswalkers and a couple of $1 commons.
If this is not gonna be sold in target and stuff I fear to see what they will be sold for just because Liliana Demonic Tutor and Jace Counterspell by themselves.
As a person who collects duel decks and having missed out on the early ones. Especially since I only have the Japanese Jace vs Chandra I am very much looking forward to what this item is.
A bundle of the 4 decks would be fantastic I worry that this product might have a small print run which would suck as prices would be insanely high.
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If this is not gonna be sold in target and stuff I fear to see what they will be sold for just because Liliana Demonic Tutor and Jace Counterspell by themselves.
Don't forget the Double Dazeeither... Or the Ancestral Vision, Akroma, Angel of Wrath, and the very expensive Elf uncommons (Imperious Perfect, et al.) Along with Goblin Warchief, etc.
These first 4 duel deck runs have some pretty pricey stuff in them.
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As an OCD collector my question is are they going to have their original borders and copyright dates or will either of those be updated? If they update either or both, then both the original prints and this new print will be required for collection purposes. I'll pick this set up regardless, but it's a curiosity since it will affect whether or not new additions are made to the binder.
Just when I was thinking about giving up on collecting all the duel decks, they reprint the two I never got, sleeved, and Duel-Deck-Boxed... not to mention Speed vs. Cunning... curse you, Wizards, curse you for knowing my true weakness.
As an OCD collector my question is are they going to have their original borders and copyright dates or will either of those be updated? If they update either or both, then both the original prints and this new print will be required for collection purposes. I'll pick this set up regardless, but it's a curiosity since it will affect whether or not new additions are made to the binder.
Was wondering the same thing for the same reason.
Wouldn't it be hilarious if just like the old Anthologies set they white bordered this?
Considering Demonic Tutor is like $15 or something like that and it will have four planeswalkers (be it ones that have seen many printings), it probably comes pretty close to value. Well, that and the fact that the Divine Vs. Demonic goes for about $80 on its own...
One box with all four decks contained within it.
Print numbers much like what we see for DD now.
Distribution to the big box stores just like the first time around for each of the decks.
The reasoning being that I'm sure these are being printed to help bring down the cost not only of the first dual decks but also of the cards contained within them. Sending these to only card shops wouldn't do that.
I'm also hoping that it being 1 box and that these decks were already created and would thus require much less work to create a second time that we could see a price point more like $60.
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I'm getting the vibe that these are going to be like From the Vault print runs.
You could very easily fit 8 decks into the deckbuilder toolkit box, and almost every walmart has a half dozen of those on the shelf, not to mention they stocked the hell out of the holiday gift boxes which are a lot of wasted space for just 4 boosters.
Elspeth is actually lower then she has been in a long time since they put her in the first modern Event Deck and Modern Masters.
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She's still more expensive than Chandra Nalaar, Jace Beleren or any of the other DD face cards (except Akroma). Despite having had four printings now she's still about $10 and is one of those walkers that you can never really have enough printings of because she's just that good and supply will always dry up quickly. Tezzeret hasn't been reprinted since that DD either and he's more expensive than Elspeth now. It would be nice to see the deck out there again.
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If all of Elspeth's reprints so far haven't lowered her price, one more won't do much to help.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
This is clearly due to usability, I mean Chandra Nalaar is a joke as far as competitive play is concerned. Jace Beleren has more of a shot of seeing some minor play and he is only slightly cheaper than the cheapest version of Elspeth. 4 mana Elspeth is an all-time great planeswalker no wonder she has trouble dropping in value...
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They HAVE lowered her price and another printing might help keep it low. Also keep in mind there has only been one printing of the DD version which has alternate art, of course. Personally I prefer the original art, but again, I'd like to have another copy of the deck. I need another Elspeth, I need another Tezzeret, I can never have enough Swords to Plowshares and Steel Overseer is a $10+ card now too. I think it's just as good a choice as Garruk v Liliana, which doesn't really have anything of value other than the planeswalkers and a couple of $1 commons.
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I love playing duel decks with my kids and if this makes earlier ones available at a fair price it is a great move.
Quite excited to be honest.
A bundle of the 4 decks would be fantastic I worry that this product might have a small print run which would suck as prices would be insanely high.
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These first 4 duel deck runs have some pretty pricey stuff in them.
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Was wondering the same thing for the same reason.
Wouldn't it be hilarious if just like the old Anthologies set they white bordered this?
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One box with all four decks contained within it.
Print numbers much like what we see for DD now.
Distribution to the big box stores just like the first time around for each of the decks.
The reasoning being that I'm sure these are being printed to help bring down the cost not only of the first dual decks but also of the cards contained within them. Sending these to only card shops wouldn't do that.
I'm also hoping that it being 1 box and that these decks were already created and would thus require much less work to create a second time that we could see a price point more like $60.
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Those of you wishing for EvT should buy this so they make a second edition.
My only complaint is that they didn't demote Lord of the Pit so Demonic Tutor could take its rightful place as the Demonic Foil card
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