Veil absolutely makes up for the not so epic mythic sliver!
I was so excited for a new sliver lord and made room in it for my super friends/sliver EDH deckthen when it was spoiled I realised he's just a worse avacyn, angel of hope.. I became furious that it was so hyped.
I was so sure the sliver would be epic and the veil would be average.. now that the opposite has come true I can fill that newly empty slot regardless!
Oh awesome! Kurkesh is an Ogre Spirit. That's some cool flavor right there. His ability is interesting... I doubt it'll see use in standard, but I guess that depends on where the next set brings us.
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Veil absolutely makes up for the not so epic mythic sliver!
I was so excited for a new sliver lord and made room in it for my super friends/sliver EDH deckthen when it was spoiled I realised he's just a worse avacyn, angel of hope.. I became furious that it was so hyped.
I was so sure the sliver would be epic and the veil would be average.. now that the opposite has come true I can fill that newly empty slot regardless!
Thank you wizards! ^.^
/Amen.
WotC way "over-thought" on the Sliver Lord and thus nerfed it to nearly completely useless.
It's an instant speed 5/5 trampler for 4. Wtf do you people want seriously? It has applications in populate/ above the curve beats decks, or in Bant control/ flash. I seriously think anyone mad at this card for any reason other than losing an attacker to instant speed wurm, should go home and make their own awesome card game and leave the rest of us alone.
what a crap website (mothership). do they even QC before they release stuff? Articles still haven't updated, so I figure I'll try the "reset" button underneath the main article links. Site reloads, except the entire bottom half of the page is gone altogether.
Thank God for MTGS. It's pretty sad when your customers/fanbase have to go to a 3rd party website to view the content from your page/site.
Amen, and it'll get worse when they decide at 11am EST just to be "global". So stupid. If you are so worried about being "global", then update at midnight Greenwich time.
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Amen, and it'll get worse when they decide at 11am EST just to be "global". So stupid. If you are so worried about being "global", then update at midnight Greenwich time.
Infinite loyalty with Tez 1.0 and the Nissa 2.0... good catch...someone has to start brewing some combo deck here.
I don't think this works. The Chain Veil is worded such that you may activate a loyalty ability for each planeswalker you control ONCE this turn as though none had been activated. So after you untap it an use it again, it will see that you've already met that condition and fail to function.
My initial reaction to The Chain Veil: jump back from my computer in fear and flail my arms.
Upon further contemplation: it seems pretty terrible in all constructed formats unless you manage to build a decent Planeswalker deck and even then you'd only want one or two of them.
Meanwhile at the Hall of the Justice: EDH players who play Superfriends decks are rejoicing.
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Amen, and it'll get worse when they decide at 11am EST just to be "global". So stupid. If you are so worried about being "global", then update at midnight Greenwich time.
At 4 cost per turn after 4 invested to drop it, the chain veil seems like its completely priced out of anything *but* superfriends. You have to dump an unholy amount of mana into a combo piece that does nothing on its own (and indeed drags you down) only to further another medium to high cost card, and rather than advance you to a win on the spot, it just doubles you up? That all reeks so hard of win-moar. I can see it in superfriends ofc but outside of that narrow, narrow scope its probably unplayable in any capacity.
Now take that with a grain of salt as I play devils advocate against my own post, since those same categories I said could plausibly speak the same of doubling season, and edh besides, it does nasty nasty things. But I think the very appreciable difference is in how slow this is by comparison. Drop a PWer after double is out and you ult that same turn. This punishes you for laying it first, and would need obscene mana to do anythinv on the same turn you lay a walker, so its pegged into taking 1-2 turns before it does anything at all, and even then you arent pooping out 5 dragons instantly or anything, but just getting time walk speed, it might still be 2-3 turns out to ult depending on the walker. And crikey, at some point you could just play time warp or whatever is in the format.
I think its a tricky ground for development, and this card seems overly cautious. Not to say it will have no home, and who knows a friends control deck might erupt in standard if planeswalkers keep being pushed when finishers are pitiful.
Infinite loyalty with Tez 1.0 and the Nissa 2.0... good catch...someone has to start brewing some combo deck here.
I don't think this works. The Chain Veil is worded such that you may activate a loyalty ability for each planeswalker you control ONCE this turn as though none had been activated. So after you untap it an use it again, it will see that you've already met that condition and fail to function.
No, the "once" is in there so that the ability "resets" the number of times you've activated it rather than removing the restriction entirely.
Amen, and it'll get worse when they decide at 11am EST just to be "global". So stupid. If you are so worried about being "global", then update at midnight Greenwich time.
Wait where was this said?
It wasn't. He is just speculating.
No he wasn't speculating. It's in Blake Rasmussen's new article
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Casual Decks WRBoros Aggro (Glorious knights of badassery) RBRakdos Bloodthirst (Undercosted waves of fat s***) URIzzet Talrand/Pyromancer (b/c I hate you) GRGruul Ramp and Stomp (SO FAT. SO FAST. RAWRRR) GBGolgari Birthing Pod (b/c you wanted a challenge. I did warn you this BS is banned though) BWOrzhov Lifegain Aggro (Removal for dayzzz) WGSelesnya Tribal Golem-splicers/token (meh. Needs more upgrades. Perhaps switching to bant?) WUAzorius Flicker (b/c I wanna annoy the f*** outta you) GUSimic Evolve Aggro (Aggro takes a journey to the weird side of the color pie) BUDimir Control (b/c I wanna peel your skin off and flay you within an inch of life before I kill you) URWJeskai Ascendency Tokens (MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA) RWBMardu Warriors (Butcher is da bomb) GU Simic Morph (slow as s*** but oh so fun) WBGAbzan Dredge-animator (PURE EVIL) GWHexproof Aggro (Deal with it. Lemme guess, you cant?)
EDH Decks UBRNekusar (Multiplayer MONSTA. 1v1 Klutz) GRB Prossh (Set up engines. WRECK FACE) GEzuri (Hey so I heard you liked Elves...) UTalrand (Counter. Cantrip. Counter. Cantrip. Repeat till opponents die-- possibly of boredom)
Tiny leaders WUDaxos (basic 3/1 fliers do basic s***. Also Daxos) RWAnax and Cymede (Heroic weenie beats)
Standard RRMONO RED AGGRO (RAWWWRRRR!!!!) WUHeroic Aggro (Easy mode beatstick)
Amen, and it'll get worse when they decide at 11am EST just to be "global". So stupid. If you are so worried about being "global", then update at midnight Greenwich time.
Amen, and it'll get worse when they decide at 11am EST just to be "global". So stupid. If you are so worried about being "global", then update at midnight Greenwich time.
I was so excited for a new sliver lord and made room in it for my super friends/sliver EDH deckthen when it was spoiled I realised he's just a worse avacyn, angel of hope.. I became furious that it was so hyped.
I was so sure the sliver would be epic and the veil would be average.. now that the opposite has come true I can fill that newly empty slot regardless!
Thank you wizards! ^.^
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i welcome the new mono red combo general.
we needed you.
veil blah blah blah planeswalker stuff.
but I love it!
It'll be even better in tandem with the inevitable card that will allow you to activate PWs on each turn
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Add Gemstone Array alongside Basalt Monolith, and you have an infinite mana combo with that guy.
Draft my Peasant Cube.
/Amen.
WotC way "over-thought" on the Sliver Lord and thus nerfed it to nearly completely useless.
Amen, and it'll get worse when they decide at 11am EST just to be "global". So stupid. If you are so worried about being "global", then update at midnight Greenwich time.
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Wait where was this said?
I don't think this works. The Chain Veil is worded such that you may activate a loyalty ability for each planeswalker you control ONCE this turn as though none had been activated. So after you untap it an use it again, it will see that you've already met that condition and fail to function.
EDH Decks
BGGlissa, the TraitorGB
URTibor and LumiaRU
WUBOloro, Ageless AsceticBUW
UBSygg, River CutthroatBU
RGXenagos, God of RevelsGR
UGVorel of the Hull CladeGU
GBSavra, Queen of the GolgariBG
URGMaelstrom WandererGRU
Upon further contemplation: it seems pretty terrible in all constructed formats unless you manage to build a decent Planeswalker deck and even then you'd only want one or two of them.
Meanwhile at the Hall of the Justice: EDH players who play Superfriends decks are rejoicing.
-Anonymous
It wasn't. He is just speculating.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
Now take that with a grain of salt as I play devils advocate against my own post, since those same categories I said could plausibly speak the same of doubling season, and edh besides, it does nasty nasty things. But I think the very appreciable difference is in how slow this is by comparison. Drop a PWer after double is out and you ult that same turn. This punishes you for laying it first, and would need obscene mana to do anythinv on the same turn you lay a walker, so its pegged into taking 1-2 turns before it does anything at all, and even then you arent pooping out 5 dragons instantly or anything, but just getting time walk speed, it might still be 2-3 turns out to ult depending on the walker. And crikey, at some point you could just play time warp or whatever is in the format.
I think its a tricky ground for development, and this card seems overly cautious. Not to say it will have no home, and who knows a friends control deck might erupt in standard if planeswalkers keep being pushed when finishers are pitiful.
No, the "once" is in there so that the ability "resets" the number of times you've activated it rather than removing the restriction entirely.
No he wasn't speculating. It's in Blake Rasmussen's new article
WRBoros Aggro (Glorious knights of badassery)
RBRakdos Bloodthirst (Undercosted waves of fat s***)
URIzzet Talrand/Pyromancer (b/c I hate you)
GRGruul Ramp and Stomp (SO FAT. SO FAST. RAWRRR)
GBGolgari Birthing Pod (b/c you wanted a challenge. I did warn you this BS is banned though)
BWOrzhov Lifegain Aggro (Removal for dayzzz)
WGSelesnya Tribal Golem-splicers/token (meh. Needs more upgrades. Perhaps switching to bant?)
WUAzorius Flicker (b/c I wanna annoy the f*** outta you)
GUSimic Evolve Aggro (Aggro takes a journey to the weird side of the color pie)
BUDimir Control (b/c I wanna peel your skin off and flay you within an inch of life before I kill you)
URWJeskai Ascendency Tokens (MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA)
RWBMardu Warriors (Butcher is da bomb)
GU Simic Morph (slow as s*** but oh so fun)
WBGAbzan Dredge-animator (PURE EVIL)
GWHexproof Aggro (Deal with it. Lemme guess, you cant?)
EDH Decks
UBRNekusar (Multiplayer MONSTA. 1v1 Klutz)
GRB Prossh (Set up engines. WRECK FACE)
GEzuri (Hey so I heard you liked Elves...)
UTalrand (Counter. Cantrip. Counter. Cantrip. Repeat till opponents die-- possibly of boredom)
Tiny leaders
WUDaxos (basic 3/1 fliers do basic s***. Also Daxos)
RWAnax and Cymede (Heroic weenie beats)
Standard
RRMONO RED AGGRO (RAWWWRRRR!!!!)
WUHeroic Aggro (Easy mode beatstick)
Guess again.
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