Yay! I did not expect such a card to be lower in rarity than Rare. Great limited card since spare mana is always likely. For this to see Standard play, though, we probably need a good ritual or a standard environment where rituals are playable, so here's hoping for that.
Love the art, love the flavour text, but the card is utter garbage. Literally stone unplayable in any reasonable situation. Like, unless you have 6+ mana the card has exactly zero text on it.
Perfect to play on turn 5 in a low-curve deck, before dropping your land for the turn.....
... except that deck probably would rather miss the land drop and cast an Ember Swallower over going Act on Impulse into a Mountain, a Lightning Strike and a 'wasted' Rakdos Cackler.
Pretty baffled at the positive reception here. Does Red really want to pay three mana and a card for this? What gets cut? Other colors, especially blue, simply do it better.
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Pretty baffled at the positive reception here. Does Red really want to pay three mana and a card for this? What gets cut? Other colors, especially blue, simply do it better.
I dunno about others, but I like it because it's a new usage of the red ability. It shows good things for the future if nothing else.
Worth noting that Three Wishes has seen actual Legacy play in Solidarity decks. Also, this is one of the cheapest card advantage spells that Red has gotten since Wheel of Fortune. Even if you only get 1.5 cards on average with this, that's still unprecedented.
This is something odd to compliment about, but I really like the reminder text of the spell ability. Pretty much confirms that the reminder text lingo to be used for custom cards is "land play", such as "use a land play" and so on.
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How to use card tags (please use them for everybody's sanity)
[c]Lightning Bolt[/c] -> Lightning Bolt
[c=Lightning Bolt]Apple Pie[/c] -> Apple Pie
Vowels-Only Format Minimum deck size: 60 Maximum number of identical cards: 4 Ban list: Cards whose English names begin with a consonant, Unglued and Unhinged cards, cards involving ante, Ancestral Recall
This card is...difficult to evaluate. Its the kind of thing you desperately want to be able to cast on turn 2/3/4, but in doing so you are basically just guaranteeing that you hit your next land drop and not much else.
This is a very good lategame play, though. As it stands I can see it as a solid 1 or 2 of for certain decks. This is less of an "engine" card and more of a "flex" card.
Love the art, love the flavour text, but the card is utter garbage. Literally stone unplayable in any reasonable situation. Like, unless you have 6+ mana the card has exactly zero text on it.
I guess you consider any red ritual deck an unreasonable situation?
Those cards have seen recent printings there is nothing stopping them turning up in standard again, It is probably too weak for modern but if it was RR and flip 2 I'd of played it there its really not even that far off modern playable.
If red is reaching late game, in recent Standard, it has probably already lost.
They'd need a heavily adjusted standard environment coming up in Khans to make this good.
I'm sure this can be crazy in some older formats in the right combo, although the 3 cmc might detract from it.
I hope they do a 1 drop and a 2 drop versions of this kind of effect in upcoming sets. I like how the effect fits into red's themes. They'd need to be better than equivalent draw spells for that turn, maybe latched on to what would normally be slightly too strong as a cantrip, but is okay when you can only play the cantriped card that turn.
I guess you consider any red ritual deck an unreasonable situation?
Yep. Standard will never see enough rituals for a card like this to be effective, and a modern deck has access to at least a dozen better ways of drawing cards. Compare this to Desperate Ravings or even Ideas Unbound. Hell, even Divination is better than this.
If red is reaching late game, in recent Standard, it has probably already lost.
They'd need a heavily adjusted standard environment coming up in Khans to make this good.
I'm sure this can be crazy in some older formats in the right combo, although the 3 cmc might detract from it.
I hope they do a 1 drop and a 2 drop versions of this kind of effect in upcoming sets. I like how the effect fits into red's themes. They'd need to be better than equivalent draw spells for that turn, maybe latched on to what would normally be slightly too strong as a cantrip, but is okay when you can only play the cantriped card that turn.
I no longer think this is a Standard card at all. This is a storm card (Spanish Inquisition, Modern storm, or something else).
If you untap on turn 3 with this and a Desperate Ritual in hand and a Goblin Electromancer on the battlefield, I do not see you losing often.
In decks that run LED, this is considerably better than 2R: Draw 3 cards.
The entire flavor context is rather hilarious when you consider that the rock reflected in her googles is rather phallic.
*reads ^comment*
*looks back at art*
*laughs uproariously*
On a more serious note though I love the direction that this takes red card advantage in as well as the flavor. I'm not sure how to judge it since you probably need 5 mana out to cast anything good and that feels like a lot given that you don't know what you're getting.
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Casual Decks WRBoros Aggro (Glorious knights of badassery) RBRakdos Bloodthirst (Undercosted waves of fat s***) URIzzet Talrand/Pyromancer (b/c I hate you) GRGruul Ramp and Stomp (SO FAT. SO FAST. RAWRRR) GBGolgari Birthing Pod (b/c you wanted a challenge. I did warn you this BS is banned though) BWOrzhov Lifegain Aggro (Removal for dayzzz) WGSelesnya Tribal Golem-splicers/token (meh. Needs more upgrades. Perhaps switching to bant?) WUAzorius Flicker (b/c I wanna annoy the f*** outta you) GUSimic Evolve Aggro (Aggro takes a journey to the weird side of the color pie) BUDimir Control (b/c I wanna peel your skin off and flay you within an inch of life before I kill you) URWJeskai Ascendency Tokens (MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA) RWBMardu Warriors (Butcher is da bomb) GU Simic Morph (slow as s*** but oh so fun) WBGAbzan Dredge-animator (PURE EVIL) GWHexproof Aggro (Deal with it. Lemme guess, you cant?)
EDH Decks UBRNekusar (Multiplayer MONSTA. 1v1 Klutz) GRB Prossh (Set up engines. WRECK FACE) GEzuri (Hey so I heard you liked Elves...) UTalrand (Counter. Cantrip. Counter. Cantrip. Repeat till opponents die-- possibly of boredom)
Tiny leaders WUDaxos (basic 3/1 fliers do basic s***. Also Daxos) RWAnax and Cymede (Heroic weenie beats)
Standard RRMONO RED AGGRO (RAWWWRRRR!!!!) WUHeroic Aggro (Easy mode beatstick)
nice card
maybe UR draw burn deck could use
( but it is a tale game spell)
Red philosophy would say that not drawing the card and not being able to cast the card are exactly the same thing.
Rigney usually impresses me but damn, that's awesome. Maybe my favorite art yet, definitely sells me on the new frame.
My custom sets:
Caeia Block (Released - Beta)
Generals of Dareth (In Design)
... except that deck probably would rather miss the land drop and cast an Ember Swallower over going Act on Impulse into a Mountain, a Lightning Strike and a 'wasted' Rakdos Cackler.
I dunno about others, but I like it because it's a new usage of the red ability. It shows good things for the future if nothing else.
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[c]Lightning Bolt[/c] -> Lightning Bolt
[c=Lightning Bolt]Apple Pie[/c] -> Apple Pie
Vowels-Only Format
Minimum deck size: 60
Maximum number of identical cards: 4
Ban list: Cards whose English names begin with a consonant, Unglued and Unhinged cards, cards involving ante, Ancestral Recall
goblin eletromancer
young pyromancer
spellheart chimera or Guttersnipe
and lots of cheap burn spells
and 1-2 keranos
(i know the deck exists but what i m saying is build a deck with ever lower curve and take advantage of convoke cards and this one)
Does Spanish Inquisition want this effect? I'm not sure, but it might.
Now people say this isn't good.
Allowing red to draw three cards for three mana isn't something to ignore....this card is very playable.
This is a very good lategame play, though. As it stands I can see it as a solid 1 or 2 of for certain decks. This is less of an "engine" card and more of a "flex" card.
Desperate ritual, pyrhetic ritual, infernal plunge, battle hymn... opps I have 6+ mana. You could even use stayr hedonist if you had to.
I guess you consider any red ritual deck an unreasonable situation?
Those cards have seen recent printings there is nothing stopping them turning up in standard again, It is probably too weak for modern but if it was RR and flip 2 I'd of played it there its really not even that far off modern playable.
Pioneer:UR Pheonix
Modern:U Mono U Tron
EDH
GB Glissa, the traitor: Army of Cans
UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
UWGDerevi, Empyrial Tactician "you cannot fight the storm"
R Zirilan of the claw. The solution to every problem is dragons
UB Etrata, the Silencer Cloning assassination
Peasant cube: Cards I own
They'd need a heavily adjusted standard environment coming up in Khans to make this good.
I'm sure this can be crazy in some older formats in the right combo, although the 3 cmc might detract from it.
I hope they do a 1 drop and a 2 drop versions of this kind of effect in upcoming sets. I like how the effect fits into red's themes. They'd need to be better than equivalent draw spells for that turn, maybe latched on to what would normally be slightly too strong as a cantrip, but is okay when you can only play the cantriped card that turn.
Yep. Standard will never see enough rituals for a card like this to be effective, and a modern deck has access to at least a dozen better ways of drawing cards. Compare this to Desperate Ravings or even Ideas Unbound. Hell, even Divination is better than this.
You've never played Storm, have you?
I no longer think this is a Standard card at all. This is a storm card (Spanish Inquisition, Modern storm, or something else).
If you untap on turn 3 with this and a Desperate Ritual in hand and a Goblin Electromancer on the battlefield, I do not see you losing often.
In decks that run LED, this is considerably better than 2R: Draw 3 cards.
*reads ^comment*
*looks back at art*
*laughs uproariously*
On a more serious note though I love the direction that this takes red card advantage in as well as the flavor. I'm not sure how to judge it since you probably need 5 mana out to cast anything good and that feels like a lot given that you don't know what you're getting.
WRBoros Aggro (Glorious knights of badassery)
RBRakdos Bloodthirst (Undercosted waves of fat s***)
URIzzet Talrand/Pyromancer (b/c I hate you)
GRGruul Ramp and Stomp (SO FAT. SO FAST. RAWRRR)
GBGolgari Birthing Pod (b/c you wanted a challenge. I did warn you this BS is banned though)
BWOrzhov Lifegain Aggro (Removal for dayzzz)
WGSelesnya Tribal Golem-splicers/token (meh. Needs more upgrades. Perhaps switching to bant?)
WUAzorius Flicker (b/c I wanna annoy the f*** outta you)
GUSimic Evolve Aggro (Aggro takes a journey to the weird side of the color pie)
BUDimir Control (b/c I wanna peel your skin off and flay you within an inch of life before I kill you)
URWJeskai Ascendency Tokens (MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA)
RWBMardu Warriors (Butcher is da bomb)
GU Simic Morph (slow as s*** but oh so fun)
WBGAbzan Dredge-animator (PURE EVIL)
GWHexproof Aggro (Deal with it. Lemme guess, you cant?)
EDH Decks
UBRNekusar (Multiplayer MONSTA. 1v1 Klutz)
GRB Prossh (Set up engines. WRECK FACE)
GEzuri (Hey so I heard you liked Elves...)
UTalrand (Counter. Cantrip. Counter. Cantrip. Repeat till opponents die-- possibly of boredom)
Tiny leaders
WUDaxos (basic 3/1 fliers do basic s***. Also Daxos)
RWAnax and Cymede (Heroic weenie beats)
Standard
RRMONO RED AGGRO (RAWWWRRRR!!!!)
WUHeroic Aggro (Easy mode beatstick)