Am I right that to you can't cast decimate if there isn't a card of each type it targets in play? If you cast will the whole thing fizzle if the last legal target for a type leaves play before it resolves?
...it almost seems so hard to cast it might be useless if so.
No, it doesn't work like that. It still targets the other types regardless.
Am I right that to you can't cast decimate if there isn't a card of each type it targets in play? If you cast will the whole thing fizzle if the last legal target for a type leaves play before it resolves?
...it almost seems so hard to cast it might be useless if so.
You must have a legal target of each type when you cast it. When it goes to resolve it will fizzle only if all of the targets chosen when it was cast are gone.
Am I right that to you can't cast decimate if there isn't a card of each type it targets in play? If you cast will the whole thing fizzle if the last legal target for a type leaves play before it resolves?
...it almost seems so hard to cast it might be useless if so.
you can't cast it without all four targets (though you can target the same thing more than once, if necessary and possible). But it won't fizzle unless all the targets become illegal before resolution.
Since he's in the spoiler with Basandra,
it may be safe to assume Edric, Spymaster of Trest is in CNS,
but the other three in that cycle are not.
He doesn't have the CNS symbol which seems like a confirmation that he's out.
All the cards they just added have whatever expansion symbol they used most recently.
They seem to have updated some cards (including Basandra) to use the actual VM "card" image,
though I specifically remember she was the COM version earlier this week.
I would expect Edric and the rest to follow suit eventually.
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Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
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Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
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very possible, I dont know the intricacies of that, might want to check all the articles, both spoiler pages and anything else relevant. If there is a code it could be found.
Am I right that to you can't cast decimate if there isn't a card of each type it targets in play? If you cast will the whole thing fizzle if the last legal target for a type leaves play before it resolves?
...it almost seems so hard to cast it might be useless if so.
by the old rules it would but now if a spell has more than one targets and one becomes ilegal the spell resolves ignoring the part of the ilegal target
Am I right that to you can't cast decimate if there isn't a card of each type it targets in play? If you cast will the whole thing fizzle if the last legal target for a type leaves play before it resolves?
...it almost seems so hard to cast it might be useless if so.
by the old rules it would but now if a spell has more than one targets and one becomes ilegal the spell resolves ignoring the part of the ilegal target
You still can't announce a spell without being able to target everything the spell calls for targeting. It's only countered on resolution if all of those targets are gone when it resolves, though. If you target a Rainbow Efreet with Decimate & it phases out in response, the other three targets still get destroyed.
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yep the council can be interesting, at least they enforce significantly better then the Azorius. Then again politics are all about this plane and the Council Consists of a Dungeon Keeper, King, Explorer, Architect and "Assassin"
Here's hoping Sam Stoddard's "soon" is a "yes, still today" soon.
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EDH:
R Heartless Hidetsugu R Godo, Bandit Warlord G Kamahl, Fist of Krosa B Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker RG Thromok the Insatiable WUBRG Scion of the Ur-Dragon
Modern: UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy: UWBMiracles
Edh: UUUThassa Control WWWHokori Stax GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy BBBGriselbrand French List RBGShattergang(Super Villians) RWGHazezon Flicker UBRMarchesa Aggro URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
Modern: UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy: UWBMiracles
Edh: UUUThassa Control WWWHokori Stax GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy BBBGriselbrand French List RBGShattergang(Super Villians) RWGHazezon Flicker UBRMarchesa Aggro URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
neither of which, Maelstrom Pulse can hit, which is what the discussion was about. Considering its in Conspiracy, I would say niether of those cards are in it so 0%.
neither of which, Maelstrom Pulse can hit, which is what the discussion was about. Considering its in Conspiracy, I would say niether of those cards are in it so 0%.
Oh in conspiracy its ok at best. We were all talking practical applications outside of just draft.
Modern: UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy: UWBMiracles
Edh: UUUThassa Control WWWHokori Stax GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy BBBGriselbrand French List RBGShattergang(Super Villians) RWGHazezon Flicker UBRMarchesa Aggro URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
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No, it doesn't work like that. It still targets the other types regardless.
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RWU Zedruu, the Greathearted
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You must have a legal target of each type when you cast it. When it goes to resolve it will fizzle only if all of the targets chosen when it was cast are gone.
you can't cast it without all four targets (though you can target the same thing more than once, if necessary and possible). But it won't fizzle unless all the targets become illegal before resolution.
Also, still hoping this comes up soon =/
Hopefuly they'll be up tomorrow
All the cards they just added have whatever expansion symbol they used most recently.
They seem to have updated some cards (including Basandra) to use the actual VM "card" image,
though I specifically remember she was the COM version earlier this week.
I would expect Edric and the rest to follow suit eventually.
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Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
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This one says that we will soon be able to see the full set, so it may not be today after all.
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by the old rules it would but now if a spell has more than one targets and one becomes ilegal the spell resolves ignoring the part of the ilegal target
i already tried the konami code the name of all conspirators and of the city (legendary) and 'Dack' and 'Fayden' nothing happened
You still can't announce a spell without being able to target everything the spell calls for targeting. It's only countered on resolution if all of those targets are gone when it resolves, though. If you target a Rainbow Efreet with Decimate & it phases out in response, the other three targets still get destroyed.
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Decimate has worked this way since it was printed. Spells are only countered if all of their targets disappear prior to resolution.
This guy.
Here's hoping Sam Stoddard's "soon" is a "yes, still today" soon.
At least Nils Hamm's new Howling Wolf art looks killer.
Real Men Play Aggro
EDH:
R Heartless Hidetsugu
R Godo, Bandit Warlord
G Kamahl, Fist of Krosa
B Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker
RG Thromok the Insatiable
WUBRG Scion of the Ur-Dragon
I posted this in the miracles thread. Card is absolutely awesome.
Draft it Here!
UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy:
UWBMiracles
Edh:
UUUThassa Control
WWWHokori Stax
GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy
BBBGriselbrand French List
RBGShattergang(Super Villians)
RWGHazezon Flicker
UBRMarchesa Aggro
URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
Here's the difference. Whats the odds you encounter mass tokens compared to emrakul or true-name?
Draft it Here!
UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy:
UWBMiracles
Edh:
UUUThassa Control
WWWHokori Stax
GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy
BBBGriselbrand French List
RBGShattergang(Super Villians)
RWGHazezon Flicker
UBRMarchesa Aggro
URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
Oh in conspiracy its ok at best. We were all talking practical applications outside of just draft.
Draft it Here!
UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy:
UWBMiracles
Edh:
UUUThassa Control
WWWHokori Stax
GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy
BBBGriselbrand French List
RBGShattergang(Super Villians)
RWGHazezon Flicker
UBRMarchesa Aggro
URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)