Is Wakestone Gargoyle confirmed to be rare in Conspiracy? I know it was a rare in Ravnica, but it seems like the type of card that could be shifted down to uncommon here. (edit: nm, I see it's not been bolded, so we don't know for sure.)
Since the conspiracies and draft-altering artifacts go in what is normally the basic land slot, it seems likely that there will be a single mythic among them.
Is Wakestone Gargoyle confirmed to be rare in Conspiracy? I know it was a rare in Ravnica, but it seems like the type of card that could be shifted down to uncommon here. (edit: nm, I see it's not been bolded, so we don't know for sure.)
No, that's purely a guess from me based on the card's complexity. I think it'd be fine at uncommon too.
Since the conspiracies and draft-altering artifacts go in what is normally the basic land slot, it seems likely that there will be a single mythic among them.
That's very possible and would be appropriate to be the last one revealed. Good speculation!
All suggested changes input. Thanks for the numbering confirmations as a lot of it was guesswork and trying to find unblurry pictures.
I just want to point out that Boldwyr Intimidator is not confirmed. That info comes from the Conspiracy video, where they added a Future Sight pack to the draft with Lore Seeker. The Intimidator they use could have potentially been from that pack, so it's still up in the air whether it's in this set or not.
Boldwyr Intimidator has a futureshifted card frame in FUT. In the video it does not... in addition to looking like the CNS set symbol, and does not have the Morningtide art.
We don't know much about it, but a card called Academy Elite was mentioned in the video. I believe they had to count the number of instants and sorceries in graveyards to determine its size. It sounds like a blue creature, but that's just speculation on my part.
Did anyone else notice that Robbie Trevino's art finally started showing up as of Theros? He supposedly sold three or four works of his to WotC long ago that haven't surfaced yet. Maybe we'll finally see some of it in Conspiracy alongside Split Decision.
1. Don't bother trying to span-count Conspiracy. I already tried; it won't get you anywhere. There are so many more spans in each section than there are new cards. But there aren't enough for it to be including all cards (new and reprinted). So it's messed up; I wouldn't bother. I suppose technically one might be able to glean some information from it if one was careful, but it's not a sure thing at all.
2. Conspiracy is not a separate rarity. It has commons, uncommons, and rares just like other types. It is true that they go in a separate slot, but that doesn't apply to just conspiracies, it applies to conspiracies *and* draft-affecting cards. So it might make sense to list 4 rarities (common, uncommon, rare, mythic) or 7 or 8 (because cards can either be ordinary cards, or they can be conspiracies/draft-affecting), but the way you have it set up currently does not make sense.
maybe you can add scaled wurm as in the announcing conspiracy thread the guy that spoiled brainstorm , swords to plowshares , FoF and many others said it was in ( if i remenber correctely)
Yes thank you, I saw that as well. Looks like it was posted shortly after Dune originally started this thread so kudos to him for maintaining it during the wait. Thanks again Dune.
Yeah, like I said, not wanting to dump on his efforts, just pointing it out in case he was unaware. (I've been wanting to manage the M15 crunch thread myself)
Vintage Masters is supposed to have all of the new Conspiracy cards which are legal in Legacy/Vintage.
The full VM spoiler is up, and we have 5 more cards,
but there are still *several* gaps in the new cards section.
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Conspiracies 13/13
Draft-related Cards ?/12
Mythic Rares ?/10
Rares ?/35
Uncommons ?/60
Commons ?/80
Bold is confirmed
Normal font means known card but unknown name or number
Italics are speculative cards
Conspiracies
1 Advantageous Proclamation C
2 Backup Plan R
3 Brago's Favor C
4 Double Stroke U
5 Immediate Action C
6 Interative Analysis U
7 Muzzio's Preparations C
8 Power Play U
9 Secret Summoning U
10 Secrets of Paradise C
11 Sentinel Dispatch C
12 Unexpected Potential U
13 Worldknit R
WWhiteW
14 Brago's Representative U
15 Council Guardian U
16 Council's Judgment R
17
18
19 Rousing of Souls C
UBlueU
20 Academy Elite
21
22 Marchesa's Infiltrator U
23 Muzzio, Visionary Architect MR
24 Plea for Power R
25 Split Decision U
BBlackB
26
27 Drakestown Forgotten R
28 Grudge Keeper C
29 Reign of the Pit R
30 Tyrant's Choice C
RRedR
31
32
33
34
35 Scourge of the Throne MR
36 Treasonous Ogre U
GGreenG
37
38 Realm Seekers R
39 Selvala's Charge U
40
MultiColoured
41 Brago, King Eternal R
42 Dack Fayden MR
43 Dack's Duplicate R
44 Deathreap Ritual U
45 Extract from Darkness U
46
47 Grenzo, Dungeon Warden R
48 Magister of Worth R
49 Marchesa, the Black Rose MR
50
51 Selvala, Explorer Returned R
52
Artifacts
53 Æther Searcher R
54 Agent of Acquisitions U
55
56 Coercive Portal MR
57
58 Cogwork Librarian C
59 Cogwork Spy C
60
61 Deal Broker R
62 Lore Seeker R
63 Lurking Automaton C
64 Whispergear Sneak C
Land
65 Paliano, the High City R
WWhiteW
66
67 Doomed Traveler C
68 Courier Hawk C
69
70
71
72
73 Glimmerpoint Stag U
74 Kor Chant C
75
76 Noble Templar C
77
78 Pristine Angel MR
79 Reya Dawnbringer R
80 Rout R
81
82
83 Swords to Plowshares U
84
85
86
87 Unquestioned Authority U
88 Wakestone Gargoyle R
UBlueU
89 Æther Tradewinds C
90 Air Servant U
91
92 Brainstorm C
93 Breakthrough U
94 Compulsive Research C
95 Enclave Elite C
96 Fact or Fiction U
97 Favorable Winds U
98
99
100
101
102 Misdirection R
103
104
105
106 Reckless Scholar C
107 Screaming Seahawk C
108 Shoreline Ranger C
109 Stasis Cell C
110
111
BBlackB
112 Assassinate C
113
114
115
116
117
118 Infectious Horror C
119
120
121
122 Liliana’s Specter C
123 Magus of the Mirror R
124
125
126
127
128 Smallpox U
129
130 Tragic Slip C
131 Twisted Abomination C
132 Unhallowed Pact C
133 Vampire Hexmage U
134
RRedR
135
136 Boldwyr Intimidator U
137
138 Chartooth Cougar C
139
140
141 Heartless Hidetsugu R
142
143
144
145
146 Lizard Warrior C
147
148
149
150
151
152
153
154
155
156
157 Volcanic Fallout U
GGreenG
158
159
160 Charging Rhino U
161 Copperhorn Scout C
162 Elvish Aberration U
163
164 Exploration R
165
166 Gnarlid Pack C
167 Howling Wolf C
168
169
170
171
172
173 Pelakka Wurm U
174 Plummet C
175
176
177
178
179 Sporecap Spider C
180 Squirrel Nest U
181 Terastodon R
MultiColoured
182 Basandra, Battle Seraph R
183
184
185 Decimate R
186
187 Fires of Yavimaya U
188
189
190 Mortify U
191
192
193 Spiritmonger R
194
195
Artifacts
196 Altar of Dementia R
197
198
199
200
201 Galvanic Juggernaut U
202
203
204
205 Reito Lantern U
206
207
208
209
Land
210 Reflecting Pool R
Since the conspiracies and draft-altering artifacts go in what is normally the basic land slot, it seems likely that there will be a single mythic among them.
Confirm: Council Guardian, Rousing of Souls, Plea for Power, Split Decision, Reign of the Pit, Selvala's Charge, Cogwork Spy, Misdirection, Exploration, and Decimate.
Correct: Slot #9 is still open for Conspiracies, so slide down both Secrets of Paradise and Sentinel Dispatch.
Extract from Darkness is 45#; Agent of Acquisitions is #54; Rout is #80.
No, that's purely a guess from me based on the card's complexity. I think it'd be fine at uncommon too.
That's very possible and would be appropriate to be the last one revealed. Good speculation!
All suggested changes input. Thanks for the numbering confirmations as a lot of it was guesswork and trying to find unblurry pictures.
Noble Templar can be seen here.
Gnarlid Pack can be seen here.
Unquestioned Authority is on the Wakestone Gargoyle here.
Assassinate, Breakthrough, Copperhorn Scout, Doomed Traveler, and Shoreline Ranger were spoiled in the Japanese version of the Conspiracy video. Screen caps here.
1. Don't bother trying to span-count Conspiracy. I already tried; it won't get you anywhere. There are so many more spans in each section than there are new cards. But there aren't enough for it to be including all cards (new and reprinted). So it's messed up; I wouldn't bother. I suppose technically one might be able to glean some information from it if one was careful, but it's not a sure thing at all.
2. Conspiracy is not a separate rarity. It has commons, uncommons, and rares just like other types. It is true that they go in a separate slot, but that doesn't apply to just conspiracies, it applies to conspiracies *and* draft-affecting cards. So it might make sense to list 4 rarities (common, uncommon, rare, mythic) or 7 or 8 (because cards can either be ordinary cards, or they can be conspiracies/draft-affecting), but the way you have it set up currently does not make sense.
#47 Grenzo, Dungeon Warden R
from this thread here:
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/the-rumor-mill/559013-missed-reprint-altar-of-dementia-pristine-angel
How do we know it's going to be fully spoiled tomorrow? Haven't seen that info anywhere.
Regardless, I appreciate the effort Dune. Thanks.
Magic Online's twitter confirmed it:
https://mobile.twitter.com/MagicOnline/status/469224891766415361
https://mobile.twitter.com/MagicOnline/status/469222655652945923
T-minus 1 hour & 22 minutes.
60 uncommons
35 rares
10 mythic rares
Custom Set
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hu9uNBSUt92PwGhvexYlwFvsh6_SJBlEEIUV3H9_XyU/edit?usp=sharing
60 uncommons
35 rares
10 mythic rares
Total is 185. But there are 210 cards in CNS.
Vintage Masters is supposed to have all of the new Conspiracy cards which are legal in Legacy/Vintage.
The full VM spoiler is up, and we have 5 more cards,
but there are still *several* gaps in the new cards section.
What gives?
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
For example, Brago's Representative isn't in VM.