If you have three Banishing Lights, can you just infinitely exile them and trigger constellation?
No, the other major difference between this and O-Ring is that you can only hit your opponent's stuff. Doesn't let you win with Barren Glory + Mass Everything Destruction, no forced draws from having three on an otherwise empty field, etc.
"Exile that card until Brain Maggot leaves the battlefield." Does this mean it returns to your hand when maggot dies? (I assume so, but I feel like the wording kind of leaves it up in the air.)
How am I supposed to win with g/w against turn 2 brain maggot. As if pack rat wasn't enough. Turn 1 thoughtseize, turn 2 brain maggot, turn 3 lifebane. It's not even fun at that point, it's just embarrassing. G/W really needs an anti-hand card or some sort of protection from this effect. Loxodon Smiter is just so bad against lifebane.
Edit; Aegis of the Gods seems decent, but it's just going to get stripped from my hand before I can play it.
Well we got our significantly worse O-ring, not responding to triggers and no targeting your own permanents is harsh but the card is definitely still good enough to see play in just about any white deck not using d-sphere and maybe even as extra d-spheres in those decks too.
That dictate is quite easily the worst of the cycle.
And I'm not particularly stoked that a format that already includes Detention Sphere, Chained to the Rocks, and Banisher Priest gets another card in the same mold. Like, that's some extremely lazy design to me.
LOL hardly. Green is still by far the worst. It's a tossup between Blue and Red for best so far, but both White & Black are playable. They're not as strong of a finisher as Red's is but still decent.
It is worth noting that if you kill the Maggot in response to its trigger you will not have to reveal your hand or discard. That is a pretty big downside from Mesmeric Fiend.
It is similar to what happens when you kill a Sower of Temptation in response to its trigger.
That dictate is quite easily the worst of the cycle.
And I'm not particularly stoked that a format that already includes Detention Sphere, Chained to the Rocks, and Banisher Priest gets another card in the same mold. Like, that's some extremely lazy design to me.
I see no problem here. Chained is only playable in WR(x). Priest is only playable in WW. D-sphere has a restricting manacost (played only in UWx and U-devotion). I like the sphere it gives other colours than UW a new tool that can deal with problem cards.
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Really boring to give grave pact flash. Woah, my opponent has 5 mana open and they're chump blocking, they must have something up their sleeve!
So if I leave 5 mana open you won't attack me even if you have creature advantage? Sounds like the card is working great for me and it's not even in my deck!
Great. My favorite strategy gets nullified by exiling. Golgari dredge fails to see the light of day once more by making their cards cyclic and returnable. Nyx Spinner is the kind of card that just makes me sad. Why couldn't its effect have read "1BG, Sacrifice Nyx Spinner: Return another target creature or enchantment from your graveyard to your hand?" Would that effect have been that broken? Why does wizards play it so safe with the graveyard? I know the answer. They're afraid of dredge. But honestly a lot of the decks now can crush dredge easily. Why are they still so hellbent on exiling everything that could be used in a cool Reanimator/Dredge deck? Does anyone else think they over abide this clause? Does anyone else want real graveyard strategies back?
Meanwhile: White gets an instant speed God Killer and a New O-Ring. Surprised? No.
It is worth noting that if you kill the Maggot in response to its trigger you will not have to reveal your hand or discard. That is a pretty big downside from Mesmeric Fiend.
It is similar to what happens when you kill a Sower of Temptation in response to its trigger.
This is not correct. You won't have to discard, but why wouldn't you have to reveal your hand? If you kill my Brain Maggot in response to the trigger, you'll still reveal your hand and I'll still choose a card in it, you just won't have anything happen to the card. The revealing/choosing is part of the ETB effect. It's only a very slight downgrade without instant sacrifice effects to try to abuse the unintended interaction they mistakenly built into Mesmeric Fiend, which isn't really a thing in standard.
Good thing half the people at my LGS play Prossh as their commander.... because they really needed another grave pact. I like fixed the mesmeric fiend (and am very glad someone else pointed it out so I didn't have to rage that it was not tidehollow sculler), and I guess it was only a matter of time for a re-templated O-ring.... but that leaves me wondering if they're just going to do everything, such as Worldgorger Dragon (remove all other permanents you control from the game until {Name} leave play).
The Grave Pact dictate is really only going to make a splash in Commander.
The new O-Ring along with Deicide makes Esper a little better but honestly every archetype seems to have at least gotten some love from this new set (aside from Dredge - the Nyx spoilers for Dredge seem like garbo to me).
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5 cmc seems a bit much, but yeah, I immediately thought of Cartel Aristocrat and how Dictate of Erebos will significantly change the battlefield dynamic. With Xathrid Necromancer also on the board, you've got potential to clear the opponent's board. Athreos is just icing on the cake. The problem I see if that WB humans/aggro will likely have a curve top of 3, so the Dictate is a bit out of place.
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Ugh more versatile? It can't target your things like O-ring does (if that even matters). Kinda less versatile then unless I'm missing something.
I'm not sure versatile is the right word, but it does have some advantages. For example, don't tell me you've never had a situation where you went to O-ring their single threat and they responded by giving it shroud or hexproof, bouncing it to hand/until end of turn or even removing it, forcing you to exile your single thread. That can't happen with this. It's worse, for sure, but only in very strange circumstances that don't really exist in standard and it's better in at least one marginal way.
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No, the other major difference between this and O-Ring is that you can only hit your opponent's stuff. Doesn't let you win with Barren Glory + Mass Everything Destruction, no forced draws from having three on an otherwise empty field, etc.
Also: Dictate of Erebos maybe a 1-of in in decks with Athreos, God of Passage + Cartel Aristocrat?
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Edit; Aegis of the Gods seems decent, but it's just going to get stripped from my hand before I can play it.
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LOL hardly. Green is still by far the worst. It's a tossup between Blue and Red for best so far, but both White & Black are playable. They're not as strong of a finisher as Red's is but still decent.
It is similar to what happens when you kill a Sower of Temptation in response to its trigger.
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I see no problem here. Chained is only playable in WR(x). Priest is only playable in WW. D-sphere has a restricting manacost (played only in UWx and U-devotion). I like the sphere it gives other colours than UW a new tool that can deal with problem cards.
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Flashpact is neat, theChumpspiderMaker is limited neat, non-abusable o ring... Meh dont play anything but limited, so this is just as good as o ring.
So if I leave 5 mana open you won't attack me even if you have creature advantage? Sounds like the card is working great for me and it's not even in my deck!
Meanwhile: White gets an instant speed God Killer and a New O-Ring. Surprised? No.
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This is not correct. You won't have to discard, but why wouldn't you have to reveal your hand? If you kill my Brain Maggot in response to the trigger, you'll still reveal your hand and I'll still choose a card in it, you just won't have anything happen to the card. The revealing/choosing is part of the ETB effect. It's only a very slight downgrade without instant sacrifice effects to try to abuse the unintended interaction they mistakenly built into Mesmeric Fiend, which isn't really a thing in standard.
The new O-Ring along with Deicide makes Esper a little better but honestly every archetype seems to have at least gotten some love from this new set (aside from Dredge - the Nyx spoilers for Dredge seem like garbo to me).
5 cmc seems a bit much, but yeah, I immediately thought of Cartel Aristocrat and how Dictate of Erebos will significantly change the battlefield dynamic. With Xathrid Necromancer also on the board, you've got potential to clear the opponent's board. Athreos is just icing on the cake. The problem I see if that WB humans/aggro will likely have a curve top of 3, so the Dictate is a bit out of place.
I'm not sure versatile is the right word, but it does have some advantages. For example, don't tell me you've never had a situation where you went to O-ring their single threat and they responded by giving it shroud or hexproof, bouncing it to hand/until end of turn or even removing it, forcing you to exile your single thread. That can't happen with this. It's worse, for sure, but only in very strange circumstances that don't really exist in standard and it's better in at least one marginal way.