Not being able to attack through Sylvan Caryatid is the biggest flaw that I can see with the card. But it's still intriguing regardless. I hear some complaints already ("SUPER PUSHED MYTHIC OMG") but the design actually seems pretty clever. I mean, it's a 1/3 double strike trample, which has ramifications for what type of cards work with the trigger. Yet the base mode itself is tempting, and it helps bring variety to Red's mediocre creature 3-slot (Boros Reckoner, Chandra's Phoenix, Mindsparker if you're the optimistic type).
That red guy is probably going to replace domri in modern zoo. He swings and digs 2 deep, and you will certainly always be able to play both cards if he connects. Ghor clan makes him half an alpha swing by himself as well....
Modern: UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy: UWBMiracles
Edh: UUUThassa Control WWWHokori Stax GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy BBBGriselbrand French List RBGShattergang(Super Villians) RWGHazezon Flicker UBRMarchesa Aggro URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
Is the red mythic good or not? I have no idea. It's very unique, that's for sure. I very seldom don't have an idea of how to evaluate a card, but ...help?
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
That red guy is probably going to replace domri in modern zoo. He swings and digs 2 deep, and you will certainly always be able to play both cards if he connects. Ghor clan makes him half an alpha swing by himself as well....
Except he has to you know, connect? And Domri doesn't. Plus domri can act as removal. This card is unplayable in modern.
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
That red guy is probably going to replace domri in modern zoo. He swings and digs 2 deep, and you will certainly always be able to play both cards if he connects. Ghor clan makes him half an alpha swing by himself as well....
Except he has to you know, connect? And Domri doesn't. Plus domri can act as removal. This card is unplayable in modern.
There still is that Shamanism deck that Pizzap has been playing for a while. And I believe that the damage from Rage Forger counts as combat damage.
I love the Demon and the fact that it's so underrated. Will be easy to pick up on prerelease.
Now, I'm not saying it's the best thing since slice bread, but like Abyssal Persecutor before, it needs a correct shell to work in, and in that shell it'll shine.
His shell is balls to the walls aggro. Who cares about the extra cards they draw if they'll die faster than they can use them? And the fact that first card it will draw for your opponent is on YOUR upkeep makes all the difference. Yeah, he's fun with niche cards like Toil/Trouble, but he's also good without them. Also, as opposed to Percy, you can easily field multiples. Sure, they'll draw two cards in your upkeep. Question is - will it really matter when you'll swing for 10? Also, to use those instant speed removal that they'll draw into they need to leave open mana. If you're on the play, will they forfeit their 3-drop just so they can get one more card? If so, chances are your 1 and 2 drops are safe in doing their job.
Rage forger does not count as combat damage. I really feel like he would connect more times than not in zoo, it's incredibly hard to keep enough of zoo's threats at bay, by the time this guy shows up, they will be scrambling for answers. Sure Domri survives wraths effects, but thats the trade off for having an insane "draw" ability on top of double-strike trampler...
Modern: UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy: UWBMiracles
Edh: UUUThassa Control WWWHokori Stax GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy BBBGriselbrand French List RBGShattergang(Super Villians) RWGHazezon Flicker UBRMarchesa Aggro URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
(though it looks like another UR Mythic is going to be in Conspiracy,
so they may have given this more thought than I give them credit for)
The only formats that conspiracy cards are legal for will be legacy and conspiracy draft. No standard, no modern. So if the reason for no UR mythic in theros block period is because of conspiracy having one I will be extremely upset. I have waited 8 months for a good UR card. The best thing I have seen in the colors since RTR was counterflux and even that card doesn't see play really. Keranos is good, and I am thankful for that, but when you compare that to other color pairs like red green which got domri, xenegos, xenegos, gorclan rampager, burning tree emissary, ect. It just is not enough. They can print good blue cards (thassa), and good red cards (anger of the gods, magma jet), but they can't print one thing in UR that is standard playable? Where is the prophetic bolt, the wee dragonaughts, the electrolyzes of this block?
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I dont see how the speaker is remotely playable. It cant get through most of the cards being played in standard and a red deck does not want to be wasting 2 turns trying to get a 2 power guy through just so you can see if you can play your next card since you only get 1 turn to play whatever you get off it. The speaker is just a Daxos on yourself, and Daxos is terrible, and this guy has no evasion like Nightveil Specter to where it can get through almost every time.
The demon however is ok. Its got a big drawback and that drawback isnt a very good one against a lot of decks, but its a decent demon replacer come rotation. At the same time, giving your opponent a card is pretty bad, but maybe Aggro decks might not care about that.
Isn't i that block with +-300 cards worth tournament play(until psycatogue.deck toke place) . That now only +-45 are worthing something due to being dumb powerfull (cofcof : Standstill , Entumb....)?
Too bad he doesn't bypass the 1 land rule or say "without paying it's mana cost."
Still, I can totally dig a double-striking trampler for 3 holy crap.
Wtf. You're crazy? Bypass the 1-land rule? Lets ramp 2 lands in red per turn if lucky? Dude, stop playing your legacy Lands deck cuz them Explorations make you go nuts.
That red guy is probably going to replace domri in modern zoo. He swings and digs 2 deep, and you will certainly always be able to play both cards if he connects. Ghor clan makes him half an alpha swing by himself as well....
Except he has to you know, connect? And Domri doesn't. Plus domri can act as removal. This card is unplayable in modern.
just because a + b = c does not mean c = d, in other words, just because domri is good, does not mean this guy is bad, there are a few different decks this has potential to go into in modern
Not being able to attack through Sylvan Caryatid is the biggest flaw that I can see with the card. But it's still intriguing regardless. I hear some complaints already ("SUPER PUSHED MYTHIC OMG") but the design actually seems pretty clever. I mean, it's a 1/3 double strike trample, which has ramifications for what type of cards work with the trigger. Yet the base mode itself is tempting, and it helps bring variety to Red's mediocre creature 3-slot (Boros Reckoner, Chandra's Phoenix, Mindsparker if you're the optimistic type).
th-thanks wizards!
Aside from the super-awesome gods that have been spoiled for those colors?
Draft it Here!
UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy:
UWBMiracles
Edh:
UUUThassa Control
WWWHokori Stax
GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy
BBBGriselbrand French List
RBGShattergang(Super Villians)
RWGHazezon Flicker
UBRMarchesa Aggro
URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
Agreed, but the real loser of the bunch is UR-
BG had Glissa, the Traitor
RW had Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
(though it looks like another UR Mythic is going to be in Conspiracy,
so they may have given this more thought than I give them credit for)
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Untap on turn 4 with 3 lands, one Sylvan Caryatid and one Axebane Guardian.
Play an untapped land.
Duplicate the two creatures with a Twinflame for 5 mana.
Play Archaeomancer from your hand.
Duplicate Archaeomancer and Axebane Guardian.
Attack with infinite Archaeomancers.
Except he has to you know, connect? And Domri doesn't. Plus domri can act as removal. This card is unplayable in modern.
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
There still is that Shamanism deck that Pizzap has been playing for a while. And I believe that the damage from Rage Forger counts as combat damage.
Only cheap enough to see play.
Agreed. It will see play.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
Draft it Here!
UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy:
UWBMiracles
Edh:
UUUThassa Control
WWWHokori Stax
GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy
BBBGriselbrand French List
RBGShattergang(Super Villians)
RWGHazezon Flicker
UBRMarchesa Aggro
URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
The only formats that conspiracy cards are legal for will be legacy and conspiracy draft. No standard, no modern. So if the reason for no UR mythic in theros block period is because of conspiracy having one I will be extremely upset. I have waited 8 months for a good UR card. The best thing I have seen in the colors since RTR was counterflux and even that card doesn't see play really. Keranos is good, and I am thankful for that, but when you compare that to other color pairs like red green which got domri, xenegos, xenegos, gorclan rampager, burning tree emissary, ect. It just is not enough. They can print good blue cards (thassa), and good red cards (anger of the gods, magma jet), but they can't print one thing in UR that is standard playable? Where is the prophetic bolt, the wee dragonaughts, the electrolyzes of this block?
-L
"The problem isn't when Scissors says Rock is overpowered, it's when Paper says it is."
-Mark Rosewater
We'll see with playtesting
The demon however is ok. Its got a big drawback and that drawback isnt a very good one against a lot of decks, but its a decent demon replacer come rotation. At the same time, giving your opponent a card is pretty bad, but maybe Aggro decks might not care about that.
If there's a strong Megrim-style deck then he's a good creature for it, but him and Waste Not won't by themselves make discard a thing, I don't think.
Isn't i that block with +-300 cards worth tournament play(until psycatogue.deck toke place) . That now only +-45 are worthing something due to being dumb powerfull (cofcof : Standstill , Entumb....)?
Wtf. You're crazy? Bypass the 1-land rule? Lets ramp 2 lands in red per turn if lucky? Dude, stop playing your legacy Lands deck cuz them Explorations make you go nuts.
just because a + b = c does not mean c = d, in other words, just because domri is good, does not mean this guy is bad, there are a few different decks this has potential to go into in modern