More rare spot removal - Yuck. Should be common, MAYBE uncommon.
This would never be common, especially nowadays. It's a potentially devastating card that can generate tons of card advantage in limited, especially with bestow as a significant part of the format.
It's too powerful to be common as-is. But at the right cost (4 for the first, 5 for additional) it wouldn't be a problem. Few limited decks end up getting 14 of their lands into play, which is what would be needed to get anywhere with it.
As it is now, you need to get much done with it. Maybe Nykthos can make that happen.
I believe this card needs a nickname. How about "Silence the Beliebers"?
Ahhh! I was coming here to post this myself at about the same time you did and got distracted and left the window open. LOL
Great minds think alike.
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Gishath, Sun's Avatar
Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Surrak Presents: Snow-where to Run (A Temur Production)
Zurgo - Mardu Warrior Tribal
Gisa and Geralf
Jhoira's Artifacts
This more or less confirms Wizards stance. Removals are going to be at higher rarity. No more Doom Blades, Lightning Bolts, Journey to Nowhere at common. Milking the cash cow...
More rare spot removal - Yuck. Should be common, MAYBE uncommon.
This would never be common, especially nowadays. It's a potentially devastating card that can generate tons of card advantage in limited, especially with bestow as a significant part of the format.
It's too powerful to be common as-is. But at the right cost (4 for the first, 5 for additional) it wouldn't be a problem. Few limited decks end up getting 14 of their lands into play, which is what would be needed to get anywhere with it.
As it is now, you need to get much done with it. Maybe Nykthos can make that happen.
That would still be broken at common in this limited format. Unconditional removal is a big deal in a format centered around building up singular threats, and with it exiling any Bestowed enchantment creatures, it'll often be a huge blowout even without the Strive text. The upfront cost would probably have to be at least a 6-mana sorcery for it to be a common, and even then uncommon would be more appropriate. At that point it's basically a different card altogether. This is pretty obviously a rare.
Removal will be at common. It will just not be unconditional.
Not only that. Common removal will be clunky, expensive to cast. Sure, it changes the way how we approach the game for the foreseeable future. For e.g. In sealed, I now choose to play first.
How do you weaken, or even kill a god? By denying him/her his/her worshippers. Works perfectly. Flavorwise, you can get rid a god with this, if it is a creature.
Gods cannot kill each other, so nobody can get rid of Xenagos. But apparently Erebos sending his agents to slaughter satyr worshippers of Xenagos works. Awesome art.
Gamewise, this is a total blowout against bestow-voltroned creatures. Limited bomb with a big B.
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Former Fact Prospector of the Greek Alliance.
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
What's Xenagos doing in the background? Yelling "nooooooo" as his worshipper is knife-murdered?
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“A man's at odds to know his mind cause his mind is aught he has to know it with. He can know his heart, but he dont want to. Rightly so. Best not to look in there. It aint the heart of a creature that is bound in the way that God has set for it. You can find meanness in the least of creatures, but when God made man the devil was at his elbow. A creature that can do anything. Make a machine. And a machine to make the machine. And evil that can run itself a thousand years, no need to tend it.”
― Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian, or the Evening Redness in the West
More rare spot removal - Yuck. Should be common, MAYBE uncommon.
I also don't like how it's worded. "Exile any number of target creatures" gives the impression that's what the card does. (It would be overpowered at 2BB, but still.) A better wording would have been:
Multikicker 2B
Choose target creature, then choose another target creature for each time ~ was kicked. Exile those creatures and all Auras attached to them.
MaRo talks about this repeatedly on his tumblr account。He states he dislikes using the same mechanic names over and over again: kicker and multikicker turning up in every set would be boring (according to him)、even though he acknowledges the Strive mechanic is functionally similar。
Also, (multi)kicker is too broad. If you're only having one thing happen when it gets kicked (new targets), then it'll feel weird having multikicker. Part of the point of (multi)kicker is that different things happen with different spells. If it was a multikicker block, people would be wondering why all the multikickers are just "choose extra targets".
Long ago, Wizards printed cards in Set A. However, the meta broke as Set A had broken creatures/spells/interaction that bore no simple answer. So in Set B they created an answer; mind you which takes 3 months to rectify. By then players are angry and frustrated at gameplay.
Small aside:
However, Set B's answer to Set A's card was too good. The answer became THE problem. So in Set C they created an answer to SET B's. And the new creation resulted in being the problem.
Moral of the Story? Wizards screwed up.
Only recently, they shifted their way of thinking, and created answers to potential problems. It's like leaving an answer sheet on the back of your exam paper. This results in current Standard.
What's Xenagos doing in the background? Yelling "nooooooo" as his worshipper is knife-murdered?
That's what I thought it was at first as well. But then I took a close look...
I noticed his staff is between his legs...
And his hand placement...
And that look on his face...
Xenagos, you sick bastard! That kinda revelry is not how you get your jollies!
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I fear I won't have much time to play Magic these days.
I get to watch worlds develop around me.
I get to watch great leaders, terrible oppressors, and trend setters rise and fall.
Limited, Standard, Modern, everything is a different playing field I feel I can observe, but will not actually touch.
I look forward to the stories I will hear.
And more so to the ones I will watch unfold first hand.
Isn't the unknown exciting?
It's too powerful to be common as-is. But at the right cost (4 for the first, 5 for additional) it wouldn't be a problem. Few limited decks end up getting 14 of their lands into play, which is what would be needed to get anywhere with it.
As it is now, you need to get much done with it. Maybe Nykthos can make that happen.
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Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
Ahhh! I was coming here to post this myself at about the same time you did and got distracted and left the window open. LOL
Great minds think alike.
High Five!!!
COMMANDER DECKS
Gishath, Sun's Avatar
Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Surrak Presents: Snow-where to Run (A Temur Production)
Zurgo - Mardu Warrior Tribal
Gisa and Geralf
Jhoira's Artifacts
But is it *belief* when you have *evidence*??
Silence the Worshippers would be a lot more appropriate.
Removal will be at common. It will just not be unconditional.
It's better limited that way actually. As a limited player, I approve.
edit: reading your latter post, fwiw I agree that uncommon is the good spot for good removal.
That would still be broken at common in this limited format. Unconditional removal is a big deal in a format centered around building up singular threats, and with it exiling any Bestowed enchantment creatures, it'll often be a huge blowout even without the Strive text. The upfront cost would probably have to be at least a 6-mana sorcery for it to be a common, and even then uncommon would be more appropriate. At that point it's basically a different card altogether. This is pretty obviously a rare.
Not only that. Common removal will be clunky, expensive to cast. Sure, it changes the way how we approach the game for the foreseeable future. For e.g. In sealed, I now choose to play first.
UR Melek, Izzet ParagonUR, B Shirei, Shizo's CaretakerB, R Jaya Ballard, Task MageR,RW Tajic, Blade of the LegionRW, UB Lazav, Dimir MastermindUB, UB Circu, Dimir LobotomistUB, RWU Zedruu the GreatheartedRWU, GUBThe MimeoplasmGUB, UGExperiment Kraj UG, WDarien, King of KjeldorW, BMarrow-GnawerB, WBGKarador, Ghost ChieftainWBG, UTeferi, Temporal ArchmageU, GWUDerevi, Empyrial TacticianGWU, RDaretti, Scrap SavantR, UTalrand, Sky SummonerU, GEzuri, Renegade LeaderG, WUBRGReaper KingWUBRG, RGXenagos, God of RevelsRG, CKozilek, Butcher of TruthC, WUBRGGeneral TazriWUBRG, GTitania, Protector of ArgothG
How do you weaken, or even kill a god? By denying him/her his/her worshippers. Works perfectly. Flavorwise, you can get rid a god with this, if it is a creature.
Gods cannot kill each other, so nobody can get rid of Xenagos. But apparently Erebos sending his agents to slaughter satyr worshippers of Xenagos works. Awesome art.
Gamewise, this is a total blowout against bestow-voltroned creatures. Limited bomb with a big B.
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
― Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian, or the Evening Redness in the West
Looks like it. He and his satyrs had it coming anyway. No Mercy!
MaRo talks about this repeatedly on his tumblr account。He states he dislikes using the same mechanic names over and over again: kicker and multikicker turning up in every set would be boring (according to him)、even though he acknowledges the Strive mechanic is functionally similar。
Long ago, Wizards printed cards in Set A. However, the meta broke as Set A had broken creatures/spells/interaction that bore no simple answer. So in Set B they created an answer; mind you which takes 3 months to rectify. By then players are angry and frustrated at gameplay.
Small aside:
However, Set B's answer to Set A's card was too good. The answer became THE problem. So in Set C they created an answer to SET B's. And the new creation resulted in being the problem.
Moral of the Story? Wizards screwed up.
Only recently, they shifted their way of thinking, and created answers to potential problems. It's like leaving an answer sheet on the back of your exam paper. This results in current Standard.
STALE.
UR Melek, Izzet ParagonUR, B Shirei, Shizo's CaretakerB, R Jaya Ballard, Task MageR,RW Tajic, Blade of the LegionRW, UB Lazav, Dimir MastermindUB, UB Circu, Dimir LobotomistUB, RWU Zedruu the GreatheartedRWU, GUBThe MimeoplasmGUB, UGExperiment Kraj UG, WDarien, King of KjeldorW, BMarrow-GnawerB, WBGKarador, Ghost ChieftainWBG, UTeferi, Temporal ArchmageU, GWUDerevi, Empyrial TacticianGWU, RDaretti, Scrap SavantR, UTalrand, Sky SummonerU, GEzuri, Renegade LeaderG, WUBRGReaper KingWUBRG, RGXenagos, God of RevelsRG, CKozilek, Butcher of TruthC, WUBRGGeneral TazriWUBRG, GTitania, Protector of ArgothG
That's what I thought it was at first as well. But then I took a close look...
I noticed his staff is between his legs...
And his hand placement...
And that look on his face...
Xenagos, you sick bastard! That kinda revelry is not how you get your jollies!
I get to watch great leaders, terrible oppressors, and trend setters rise and fall.
Limited, Standard, Modern, everything is a different playing field I feel I can observe, but will not actually touch.
I look forward to the stories I will hear.
And more so to the ones I will watch unfold first hand.
Isn't the unknown exciting?
We definitely need more shiny blood.
As for the card it seems good for EDH and Limited.