turn 1 - land - elvish mystic
turn 2 - land - sylvan cartyid
turn 3 - land - Prophet of Kruphix
turn 4 - land - god of endless mana - tap 1 land at the end of your turn
end of opponents turn add 6 to your mana pool start of your turn add another 6 to your mana pool etc this can get out of control fast for a huge sphinx's revelation
Modern: UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy: UWBMiracles
Edh: UUUThassa Control WWWHokori Stax GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy BBBGriselbrand French List RBGShattergang(Super Villians) RWGHazezon Flicker UBRMarchesa Aggro URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Ugh Kruphix is so awful. I really don't like how these sets get EDH stuff in them when there is already products that specifically cater towards EDH. These spots would be better for Standard or Modern since Modern doesnt get its own product and this is all standard gets.
Spite of Mogis seems playable however. Pretty bomb card for the burn decks since it can be another Magma Jet/Lightning Strike.
Its statements like these that annoy me alot. A magic set caters to all formats. You already got a r/w god that's playable in standard and the terrible ajani to play in standard what else do you need? Not everything can be standard playable
Well you are a very confused person if you believe anything your saying. The set doesnt cater to Legacy nor Modern. So far this set has about 6-7 cards that will see competitive standard play (neither of the 2 you mentioned), and probably 1 card that is Eternal playable. Everything else is limited or EDH filler. I know your standards for a MTG set are probably low, but some of us want quality.
LOL and that statement right there shows you know nothing about magic. Do you even play in eternal formats? Do you realize how high the power level of a card has to be in order for it to break in to a competitive legacy deck? Plus the set hasn't even completely spoiled yet so you need to learn some patience kid. As for playability it's what you make of it. And I apologize I didnt realize you were so incredible at magic that you are able to predict the meta before a set is released I bow to you oh wise one.
Right, since its not like Spirit of the Labyrinth or Swan Song broke Legacy or anything like that. Cards don't need to be powerful, they just need to be efficient and not cost 20 mana to cast along with being incredibly situational and requiring a billion other cards to do anything.
Then again I don't know why Im trying to explain this to a narrow minded person who doesn't think before they speak and just likes to play tough guy on the internet with random people for no reason.
Broke legacy...? You're joking right? Yea you're right I'm not going to continue to argue with someone who has no knowledge of the format.
Ugh Kruphix is so awful. I really don't like how these sets get EDH stuff in them when there is already products that specifically cater towards EDH. These spots would be better for Standard or Modern since Modern doesnt get its own product and this is all standard gets.
Spite of Mogis seems playable however. Pretty bomb card for the burn decks since it can be another Magma Jet/Lightning Strike.
Its statements like these that annoy me alot. A magic set caters to all formats. You already got a r/w god that's playable in standard and the terrible ajani to play in standard what else do you need? Not everything can be standard playable
Well you are a very confused person if you believe anything your saying. The set doesnt cater to Legacy nor Modern. So far this set has about 6-7 cards that will see competitive standard play (neither of the 2 you mentioned), and probably 1 card that is Eternal playable. Everything else is limited or EDH filler. I know your standards for a MTG set are probably low, but some of us want quality.
LOL and that statement right there shows you know nothing about magic. Do you even play in eternal formats? Do you realize how high the power level of a card has to be in order for it to break in to a competitive legacy deck? Plus the set hasn't even completely spoiled yet so you need to learn some patience kid. As for playability it's what you make of it. And I apologize I didnt realize you were so incredible at magic that you are able to predict the meta before a set is released I bow to you oh wise one.
Kruphix looks like a ton of fun. He's fringe Standard palayble (a single copy in Bant Control doesn't seem all that bad) and going to be a house in Commander. Pretty rad.
Mogis' Spite is decent. The attached scry definitely adds some value, and this might make Izzet control a thing.
Ugh Kruphix is so awful. I really don't like how these sets get EDH stuff in them when there is already products that specifically cater towards EDH. These spots would be better for Standard or Modern since Modern doesnt get its own product and this is all standard gets.
Spite of Mogis seems playable however. Pretty bomb card for the burn decks since it can be another Magma Jet/Lightning Strike.
Its statements like these that annoy me alot. A magic set caters to all formats. You already got a r/w god that's playable in standard and the terrible ajani to play in standard what else do you need? Not everything can be standard playable
Well you are a very confused person if you believe anything your saying. The set doesnt cater to Legacy nor Modern. So far this set has about 6-7 cards that will see competitive standard play (neither of the 2 you mentioned), and probably 1 card that is Eternal playable. Everything else is limited or EDH filler. I know your standards for a MTG set are probably low, but some of us want quality.
LOL and that statement right there shows you know nothing about magic. Do you even play in eternal formats? Do you realize how high the power level of a card has to be in order for it to break in to a competitive legacy deck? Plus the set hasn't even completely spoiled yet so you need to learn some patience kid. As for playability it's what you make of it. And I apologize I didnt realize you were so incredible at magic that you are able to predict the meta before a set is released I bow to you oh wise one.
Right, since its not like Spirit of the Labyrinth or Swan Song broke Legacy or anything like that. Cards don't need to be powerful, they just need to be efficient and not cost 20 mana to cast along with being incredibly situational and requiring a billion other cards to do anything.
Then again I don't know why Im trying to explain this to a narrow minded person who doesn't think before they speak and just likes to play tough guy on the internet with random people for no reason.
Broke legacy...? You're joking right? Yea you're right I'm not going to continue to argue with someone who has no knowledge of the format.
YOUR ignorance of the format is astounding, he just gave you examples of cards that made no impact on standard, but are played in eternal formats to good effect, swan song especially as it is a great way to either disrupt or protect combos. Spell Pierce is another example mentioned before, and has become a staple in legacy while doing little for standard.
He seems sweet as a super Omnath. Omnath's biggest weakness is his vulnerability. This guy gets passed a lot of that with indestructibility. Wording's a little funky. If colorless mana would drain from your pool, it becomes colorless instead...but it's already colorless.
Modern: UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy: UWBMiracles
Edh: UUUThassa Control WWWHokori Stax GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy BBBGriselbrand French List RBGShattergang(Super Villians) RWGHazezon Flicker UBRMarchesa Aggro URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
Ugh Kruphix is so awful. I really don't like how these sets get EDH stuff in them when there is already products that specifically cater towards EDH. These spots would be better for Standard or Modern since Modern doesnt get its own product and this is all standard gets.
Spite of Mogis seems playable however. Pretty bomb card for the burn decks since it can be another Magma Jet/Lightning Strike.
God forbid sets cater to all players...
I know right. That's what Modern and Legacy players have been saying for most of the Theros block.
Ugh Kruphix is so awful. I really don't like how these sets get EDH stuff in them when there is already products that specifically cater towards EDH. These spots would be better for Standard or Modern since Modern doesnt get its own product and this is all standard gets.
yeah, all Standard gets is a entire new set every 3 months, 4 times a year. poor thing.
Broke legacy...? You're joking right? Yea you're right I'm not going to continue to argue with someone who has no knowledge of the format.
The point being made is that you seem to be stating that cards like Gitaxian Probe have to be super busted since that is the only way cards can see play in Legacy. Spirit of the Labyrinth and Swan Song are Legacy playable without being insane.
Ugh Kruphix is so awful. I really don't like how these sets get EDH stuff in them when there is already products that specifically cater towards EDH. These spots would be better for Standard or Modern since Modern doesnt get its own product and this is all standard gets.
Spite of Mogis seems playable however. Pretty bomb card for the burn decks since it can be another Magma Jet/Lightning Strike.
Its statements like these that annoy me alot. A magic set caters to all formats. You already got a r/w god that's playable in standard and the terrible ajani to play in standard what else do you need? Not everything can be standard playable
Well you are a very confused person if you believe anything your saying. The set doesnt cater to Legacy nor Modern. So far this set has about 6-7 cards that will see competitive standard play (neither of the 2 you mentioned), and probably 1 card that is Eternal playable. Everything else is limited or EDH filler. I know your standards for a MTG set are probably low, but some of us want quality.
LOL and that statement right there shows you know nothing about magic. Do you even play in eternal formats? Do you realize how high the power level of a card has to be in order for it to break in to a competitive legacy deck? Plus the set hasn't even completely spoiled yet so you need to learn some patience kid. As for playability it's what you make of it. And I apologize I didnt realize you were so incredible at magic that you are able to predict the meta before a set is released I bow to you oh wise one.
Right, since its not like Spirit of the Labyrinth or Swan Song broke Legacy or anything like that. Cards don't need to be powerful, they just need to be efficient and not cost 20 mana to cast along with being incredibly situational and requiring a billion other cards to do anything.
Then again I don't know why Im trying to explain this to a narrow minded person who doesn't think before they speak and just likes to play tough guy on the internet with random people for no reason.
Given the very nature of Eternal formats, there will always be very few cards that make a large impact, and there's no reason why those cards have to be the same cards that are good in other formats. As you say, straight power level isn't the sole criteria. Plus, EDH, being a casual format, will take any card that people want to play, and most players that play magic like to play big, indestructible cards that give you bonkers mana. That said, any format that can turbo fog can probably play this.
Lastly, and this is a serious question, if you get so mad about little things like the playability of a few cards in a very limited competitive format, then why do you even play? If this card helps bring in some new players, isn't that a good thing? Imagine a new player getting this card at pre-release, struggling to understand it, but eventually exploring all of the places it can take him, learning about all the crazy card interactions out there, falling in love with the game. Because that's going to happen. Some little 10 year old is going to open this and be so excited. More than one probably. I'd consider that a greater benefit to modern and legacy than anything else could ever be.
dakra mystic, dictate of kruphix, eidolon of great revel, and godsend are all at least modern playable so far.
Dictate is in a fringe deck that isn't even at a tier number (Owling Mine), Eidolon is most likely going to be a sideboard card in one tier 3 deck (Skred Red), Dakra isn't going to replace anything, and Godsend is much worse than the swords.
Kruphix - absolutely fantastic for casual formats particularly EDH. In standard though i'm not sure how viable it'll be (although I do love the interaction between him and Sphinx's Revelation where on one hand he lets you float mana for bigger Revelations and on the other hand he lets you keep all the cards you draw).
Spite of Mogis - it feels a lot like Skred except that instead of a snow theme it forces/requires an instant/sorcery theme, obviously works well with some of the izzet themed stuff in theros and also quite decent in a R/x burn deck (where it can play the large creature removal role that Boros uses Chained to the Rocks for and Rakdos uses Dreadbore for).
Spite of Mogis isn't like Skred. It does nothing on turns 1-2 and it is a sorcery instead of an instant.
Ugh Kruphix is so awful. I really don't like how these sets get EDH stuff in them when there is already products that specifically cater towards EDH. These spots would be better for Standard or Modern since Modern doesnt get its own product and this is all standard gets.
Spite of Mogis seems playable however. Pretty bomb card for the burn decks since it can be another Magma Jet/Lightning Strike.
Its statements like these that annoy me alot. A magic set caters to all formats. You already got a r/w god that's playable in standard and the terrible ajani to play in standard what else do you need? Not everything can be standard playable
Well you are a very confused person if you believe anything your saying. The set doesnt cater to Legacy nor Modern. So far this set has about 6-7 cards that will see competitive standard play (neither of the 2 you mentioned), and probably 1 card that is Eternal playable. Everything else is limited or EDH filler. I know your standards for a MTG set are probably low, but some of us want quality.
LOL and that statement right there shows you know nothing about magic. Do you even play in eternal formats? Do you realize how high the power level of a card has to be in order for it to break in to a competitive legacy deck? Plus the set hasn't even completely spoiled yet so you need to learn some patience kid. As for playability it's what you make of it. And I apologize I didnt realize you were so incredible at magic that you are able to predict the meta before a set is released I bow to you oh wise one.
Right, since its not like Spirit of the Labyrinth or Swan Song broke Legacy or anything like that. Cards don't need to be powerful, they just need to be efficient and not cost 20 mana to cast along with being incredibly situational and requiring a billion other cards to do anything.
Then again I don't know why Im trying to explain this to a narrow minded person who doesn't think before they speak and just likes to play tough guy on the internet with random people for no reason.
Given the very nature of Eternal formats, there will always be very few cards that make a large impact, and there's no reason why those cards have to be the same cards that are good in other formats. As you say, straight power level isn't the sole criteria. Plus, EDH, being a casual format, will take any card that people want to play, and most players that play magic like to play big, indestructible cards that give you bonkers mana. That said, any format that can turbo fog can probably play this.
Lastly, and this is a serious question, if you get so mad about little things like the playability of a few cards in a very limited competitive format, then why do you even play? If this card helps bring in some new players, isn't that a good thing? Imagine a new player getting this card at pre-release, struggling to understand it, but eventually exploring all of the places it can take him, learning about all the crazy card interactions out there, falling in love with the game. Because that's going to happen. Some little 10 year old is going to open this and be so excited. More than one probably. I'd consider that a greater benefit to modern and legacy than anything else could ever be.
Except that MTG isnt marketed towards 10 year olds. If 10 year olds want to be excited, they will go buy a gameboy or a pack of Yugioh cards. Not pick up a very complex and mature game.
I never said I was mad about it. I just find it disappointing that the sets don't really change the eternal formats too much. Modern doesn't get any new cards except through standard. The format has been kind of the same for a while. If the sets didnt focus on just giving EDH more trolltastic toys, then it could be a bit more interesting than it is now.
I think people are under rating this card. Obviously incredible synergy with prophet of kruphix and sphinx's revelation (especially with no max hand size). On top of that, great with things like polukranos, and counter spells (syncopate anyone?).
Now is it ability hard to utilize to it's full potential in the current standard format? Sure. But people saying it's terrible and "the worst god in the set" are being overly dramatic out of slight disappointment.
Ugh Kruphix is so awful. I really don't like how these sets get EDH stuff in them when there is already products that specifically cater towards EDH. These spots would be better for Standard or Modern since Modern doesnt get its own product and this is all standard gets.
Spite of Mogis seems playable however. Pretty bomb card for the burn decks since it can be another Magma Jet/Lightning Strike.
God forbid sets cater to all players...
I know right. That's what Modern and Legacy players have been saying for most of the Theros block.
Not sure why you're surprised. This was a block designed to drop power creep. Of course there wasn't going to be too many Modern or Legacy cards in it. But I'd rather see a set with underwhelming cards than have a Yu-Gi-Oh style.
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You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
I can see strange and awesome things happening with Kruphix. Save up a bunch of mana, cyclonic rift eot, play massive Mistcutter Hydra for the win. Or Save up mana for a Sphinx's Revelation that's 20 or more. And thanks to Kruphix's other ability, you don't need to discard those 20+ cards. Oh! G/U Monsters! Save the mana and spend it all on a huge Polukranos or Mistcutter Hydra! So many possibilities. And just in standard (I'm aware these might not be amazing uses, but that doesn't stop me from thinking up fun things). EDH will break this guy into pieces. Heck, I could see him getting banned in EDH. That probably won't happen, but I would not be surprised if it did happen.
Sphinx Revelation will go up in price if this is pull off successfully.
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If eternal formats were turned upside down on a regular basis, we'd be right up the power creep alley into oblivion in no time. Eternal formats are better not being rocked sideways every other set.
Ugh Kruphix is so awful. I really don't like how these sets get EDH stuff in them when there is already products that specifically cater towards EDH. These spots would be better for Standard or Modern since Modern doesnt get its own product and this is all standard gets.
Spite of Mogis seems playable however. Pretty bomb card for the burn decks since it can be another Magma Jet/Lightning Strike.
God forbid sets cater to all players...
I know right. That's what Modern and Legacy players have been saying for most of the Theros block.
Not sure why you're surprised. This was a block designed to drop power creep. Of course there wasn't going to be too many Modern or Legacy cards in it. But I'd rather see a set with underwhelming cards than have a Yu-Gi-Oh style.
And I would have preferred them not making the weakest block in over a decade (since Mercadian Masques I believe). I would have been fine with it if they had stabilized the power-level somewhere around M14 levels. But they instead dropped it to the level of the Mercadian Masques block.
turn 2 - land - sylvan cartyid
turn 3 - land - Prophet of Kruphix
turn 4 - land - god of endless mana - tap 1 land at the end of your turn
end of opponents turn add 6 to your mana pool start of your turn add another 6 to your mana pool etc this can get out of control fast for a huge sphinx's revelation
Draft it Here!
UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy:
UWBMiracles
Edh:
UUUThassa Control
WWWHokori Stax
GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy
BBBGriselbrand French List
RBGShattergang(Super Villians)
RWGHazezon Flicker
UBRMarchesa Aggro
URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
One big enough to turn even a Sigiled Starfish into a killer.
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
EDH:
Niv-Mizzet
Legacy:
The Rack
Modern
Venser, the Sojourner Control
Broke legacy...? You're joking right? Yea you're right I'm not going to continue to argue with someone who has no knowledge of the format.
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NATH'ed: Someone beat me to it. Cards do not need to be absurdly powerful to be legacy playable.
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French Duel Commander
WBR Kaalia of the Vast WBR
RUG Maelstrom Wanderer RUG
Mogis' Spite is decent. The attached scry definitely adds some value, and this might make Izzet control a thing.
YOUR ignorance of the format is astounding, he just gave you examples of cards that made no impact on standard, but are played in eternal formats to good effect, swan song especially as it is a great way to either disrupt or protect combos. Spell Pierce is another example mentioned before, and has become a staple in legacy while doing little for standard.
Yeah I may have to build a deck with this guy.
Draft it Here!
UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy:
UWBMiracles
Edh:
UUUThassa Control
WWWHokori Stax
GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy
BBBGriselbrand French List
RBGShattergang(Super Villians)
RWGHazezon Flicker
UBRMarchesa Aggro
URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
I know right. That's what Modern and Legacy players have been saying for most of the Theros block.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
I sure hope so. I can think of at least a couple edh decks i would love to have a copy for. i'll gladly give you $3 for a foil.
true. Spite of Keranos would seem to make more sense, but oh well. missed opportunity #5372.
indeed!
yeah, all Standard gets is a entire new set every 3 months, 4 times a year. poor thing.
The point being made is that you seem to be stating that cards like Gitaxian Probe have to be super busted since that is the only way cards can see play in Legacy. Spirit of the Labyrinth and Swan Song are Legacy playable without being insane.
Given the very nature of Eternal formats, there will always be very few cards that make a large impact, and there's no reason why those cards have to be the same cards that are good in other formats. As you say, straight power level isn't the sole criteria. Plus, EDH, being a casual format, will take any card that people want to play, and most players that play magic like to play big, indestructible cards that give you bonkers mana. That said, any format that can turbo fog can probably play this.
Lastly, and this is a serious question, if you get so mad about little things like the playability of a few cards in a very limited competitive format, then why do you even play? If this card helps bring in some new players, isn't that a good thing? Imagine a new player getting this card at pre-release, struggling to understand it, but eventually exploring all of the places it can take him, learning about all the crazy card interactions out there, falling in love with the game. Because that's going to happen. Some little 10 year old is going to open this and be so excited. More than one probably. I'd consider that a greater benefit to modern and legacy than anything else could ever be.
Dictate is in a fringe deck that isn't even at a tier number (Owling Mine), Eidolon is most likely going to be a sideboard card in one tier 3 deck (Skred Red), Dakra isn't going to replace anything, and Godsend is much worse than the swords.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
Spite of Mogis isn't like Skred. It does nothing on turns 1-2 and it is a sorcery instead of an instant.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
Except that MTG isnt marketed towards 10 year olds. If 10 year olds want to be excited, they will go buy a gameboy or a pack of Yugioh cards. Not pick up a very complex and mature game.
I never said I was mad about it. I just find it disappointing that the sets don't really change the eternal formats too much. Modern doesn't get any new cards except through standard. The format has been kind of the same for a while. If the sets didnt focus on just giving EDH more trolltastic toys, then it could be a bit more interesting than it is now.
Now is it ability hard to utilize to it's full potential in the current standard format? Sure. But people saying it's terrible and "the worst god in the set" are being overly dramatic out of slight disappointment.
Not sure why you're surprised. This was a block designed to drop power creep. Of course there wasn't going to be too many Modern or Legacy cards in it. But I'd rather see a set with underwhelming cards than have a Yu-Gi-Oh style.
"I hope to have such a death... lying in triumph atop the broken bodies of those who slew me..."
Sphinx Revelation will go up in price if this is pull off successfully.
And I would have preferred them not making the weakest block in over a decade (since Mercadian Masques I believe). I would have been fine with it if they had stabilized the power-level somewhere around M14 levels. But they instead dropped it to the level of the Mercadian Masques block.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.