I don't understand all the fuss about this vs True-Name Nemesis. They would have to block with True-Name... Your going to have to force them to do it, and you get bet as soon as this drops down, they are going to assume some sort of Lure effect will be attaching to it, so they will just keep True-Name swinging. And even then, they are still playing blue, I mean really they will probably have some form of control anyways to bounce the equipped creature or something, which will be totally worth it since you most likely will have to go all in just to get that 1 card.
The thing is that True-Name Nemesis is very good at blocking, which has hurt many of the "fair" decks in legacy. I highly doubt Godsend will see legacy play, but if it somehow does, this interaction with True-Name Nemesiswill be relevant.
The longer I look at this card, the less appealing it becomes to me really. I want it to be great but I just dont really see the opportunity for that to happen. If its price is over like $8.00 I will probably pass altogether. Otherwise I could see myself testing it as a 2x at best in standard and it seems like an extreme stretch for anything outside of limited / standard.
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The thing is they don't want to create another Umezawa's Jitte with Stoneforge Mystic being a big card in eternal. I think Godsend is a fine card, if only a bit underwhelming for everything else but Limited. I don't see it played in any Constructed format, though only time will tell as the meta shifts next Fall. I love the card, but between this and an anthem effect for aggro decks, it seems Spear of Heliod is still much better.
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People should stop with the "Godsend for legacy" discussion already. It's not gonna happen. TNN will absolutely not block. If it did, the player is already losing.
I don't understand all the fuss about this vs True-Name Nemesis. They would have to block with True-Name... Your going to have to force them to do it, and you get bet as soon as this drops down, they are going to assume some sort of Lure effect will be attaching to it, so they will just keep True-Name swinging. And even then, they are still playing blue, I mean really they will probably have some form of control anyways to bounce the equipped creature or something, which will be totally worth it since you most likely will have to go all in just to get that 1 card.
The thing is that True-Name Nemesis is very good at blocking, which has hurt many of the "fair" decks in legacy. I highly doubt Godsend will see legacy play, but if it somehow does, this interaction with True-Name Nemesiswill be relevant.
I'm not saying he's bad at blocking. But he's also just a chumper, yes he can stop damage because of the prevention, but he isn't a solution to the problem, he's just something to buy some time. So if something is equipped with this, it obviously would be very stupid to try and buy some time by blocking with him, unless it means death. Like you said, it might be revelant, but it's not going to be with any of the top tier decks. There's plenty of answers to things that attach to creatures (be it enchants or eqipments).
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This seems like a fine piece of equipment that gives you a very powerful effect at a cost that is reasonable in standard. It seems worse than pretty much all of the Mirrodin Swords, though, and certainly far worse than Jitte. From that standpoint, I can't see it doing anything in eternal formats.
In standard, though, this card could do work.
If this is part of a cycle, then let's wait and see if there are similarly powerful equipment for the other colors.
I like godsend a lot. To me it's a give your creature +3/+3 and make it practically unblockable because who wants to lose the ability to cast a creature entirely. Imagine losing a creature to it then drawing into that creature later on or at a crucial point!
Between this, Brimaz, and Iroas, Boros aggro could be a powerhouse in the post-Journey standard. You could even throw Heliod in there to start pumping out 2/1 Cleric tokens to attach the Godsend to, and then just keep swinging for 5 every turn. As someone who is currently playing control, this game state scares the crap out of me. I'd pretty much have to have Elspeth out to pump soldier tokens or the Kiora emblem to keep up.
i beleive so, since it technically does not target - it says whenever equiped creature blocks or becomes blocked by one or more creatures, you may exile one of those creatures. it does not say target anywhere in there, does it? so i am assuming it gets around those clauses
So what you're telling me is that this card can do away with True-Name Nemesis, but as far as I can tell the only way it can do that is for True-Name Nemesis to block your creature who has this equipped (since you can't block him).
And really the only way that this could ever logically happen against a player who knows what he's doing, is for you to have a means to flash Godsend in (e.g. Stoneforge Mystic) AND equip at instant speed (e.g. Auriok Windwalker or Brass Squire) after you've already declared an attacker and seen it blocked by TNN.
Seems like a really tall order expecting that to ever happen when you need it to...
Yeah. A way better bet is to just run Sword of Fire and Ice and use that to bypass the TNN entirely, while getting CA and additional damage, and for a lower equip cost.
Seriously there's no reason to even consider using this card in Legacy.
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Any interaction between Godsend and TNN seems to me like Sword of Fire and Ice can do the same job. In fact, the Sword is better since you get to draw cards and unlike Godsend, TNN can't even block the creature if you're winning the race.
And if you were already losing, it doesn't matter which one is equipped - you can't block TNN regardless of equipment. In fact Sword drawing you cards might get you a sweeper answer at least.
Godsend seems like a inferior Sword of X and Y to me. It's not strictly inferior, of course, but it's generally inferior.
The longer I look at this card, the less appealing it becomes to me really. I want it to be great but I just dont really see the opportunity for that to happen. If its price is over like $8.00 I will probably pass altogether. Otherwise I could see myself testing it as a 2x at best in standard and it seems like an extreme stretch for anything outside of limited / standard.
This thread has been full of inane comments but this takes the cake IMO. This is the big money card of the set, like Brimaz was for BNG and sphinx's revelation was for RTR. I don't see this falling below $20 for the duration of its stay in standard, and it's got modern and legacy applications too. (not because of the TNN interaction, but because +3/+3 and being extremely detrimental to block is just that good) and if Amazon still has them for $1.99 as someone posted earlier in the thread, it would be a great investment opportunity.
Any deck playing white and running more than 3 mainboard creatures has no reason not to include this in their main, period.
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The longer I look at this card, the less appealing it becomes to me really. I want it to be great but I just dont really see the opportunity for that to happen. If its price is over like $8.00 I will probably pass altogether. Otherwise I could see myself testing it as a 2x at best in standard and it seems like an extreme stretch for anything outside of limited / standard.
This thread has been full of inane comments but this takes the cake IMO. This is the big money card of the set, like Brimaz was for BNG and sphinx's revelation was for RTR. I don't see this falling below $20 for the duration of its stay in standard, and it's got modern and legacy applications too. (not because of the TNN interaction, but because +3/+3 and being extremely detrimental to block is just that good) and if Amazon still has them for $1.99 as someone posted earlier in the thread, it would be a great investment opportunity.
Any deck playing white and running more than 3 mainboard creatures has no reason not to include this in their main, period.
Overstated. This card seems like it's on par with Behemoth Sledge in terms of power and effect. Sure, the exile effect is potentially more potent than lifelink, but it's also a punisher mechanic. No one will let you do trigger that ability unless they'll lose the game if they do not. It probably WILL see play in Standard because the effect is powerful, but it's worse than all of the Mirrodin swords in Legacy. I would not be surprised to see a $20.00 preorder, but I would not think that this card will hold its price like Brimaz. First, it's not as good as Brimaz, and second, the rest of the set is shaping out to be better than BNG so we'll have value spread out.
The longer I look at this card, the less appealing it becomes to me really. I want it to be great but I just dont really see the opportunity for that to happen. If its price is over like $8.00 I will probably pass altogether. Otherwise I could see myself testing it as a 2x at best in standard and it seems like an extreme stretch for anything outside of limited / standard.
This thread has been full of inane comments but this takes the cake IMO. This is the big money card of the set, like Brimaz was for BNG and sphinx's revelation was for RTR. I don't see this falling below $20 for the duration of its stay in standard, and it's got modern and legacy applications too. (not because of the TNN interaction, but because +3/+3 and being extremely detrimental to block is just that good) and if Amazon still has them for $1.99 as someone posted earlier in the thread, it would be a great investment opportunity.
Any deck playing white and running more than 3 mainboard creatures has no reason not to include this in their main, period.
Yea 1.99 for the Godsend novel. Whoever bought those is going to be disappointed.
Its also an equipment with no card advantage attached to it. It will be solid against creature based decks but suffer a lot against control decks. I think we can still safely say that control is being heavily run still in standard and an equipment that doesn't generate card advantage nor protect the creature from the control elements will still be a bad card against the control matchup.
I am not saying that it will be worthless by any means. But, I think the pre-order price will be overhyped. I love white and I was one of the ones who preordered Bramaz when he was still reasonably priced. I think this one is more of a trap though to be honest. I also would have a hard time running more than 2 of it mainboard but could see a third being sideboarded depending on the matchup.
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It's neat. I'm glad they made it white and not an enchantment, from a Vorthos perspective. Seems good not many places other than limited. But I do have a mono white deck, they may be able to find a home there. Who knows.
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Yea 1.99 for the Godsend novel. Whoever bought those is going to be disappointed.
Tee-hee.
But, yeah, if the rest of the set is any good this is a $5.00 card maybe. If it manages to place in a top 8 somewhere, then it can push into the $20.00s, sure, but it just doesn't seem good enough to maintain that kind of price.
It's slower than SoFI it doesn't matter that it kills a blocking TNN, TNN can't block something with SoFI anyway and this doesn't draw you a card and kill Delvers.
Weird, a non-enchantment colored artifact not in an artifact-themed block. Good as a 1-of in Legacy Esper Stoneblade? ::shrug:: I dunno enough about the format to judge.
It has no place over Sword of Fire and Ice, Batterskull, or Jitte due to the equip cost. The exile effect would be negligible in most matchups, and the places where it would make a good sideboard choice, we already have better options.
Looks like a fun card for standard though. It could see some play as a 2-of in the right shell.
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i suppose it is specifically an answer to the gods in standard. i guess its good enough at that but definitely not worth $10+. interested if there will be anymore lgndry equipment in the set....
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The thing is that True-Name Nemesis is very good at blocking, which has hurt many of the "fair" decks in legacy. I highly doubt Godsend will see legacy play, but if it somehow does, this interaction with True-Name Nemesis will be relevant.
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People should stop with the "Godsend for legacy" discussion already. It's not gonna happen. TNN will absolutely not block. If it did, the player is already losing.
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I'm not saying he's bad at blocking. But he's also just a chumper, yes he can stop damage because of the prevention, but he isn't a solution to the problem, he's just something to buy some time. So if something is equipped with this, it obviously would be very stupid to try and buy some time by blocking with him, unless it means death. Like you said, it might be revelant, but it's not going to be with any of the top tier decks. There's plenty of answers to things that attach to creatures (be it enchants or eqipments).
This seems like a fine piece of equipment that gives you a very powerful effect at a cost that is reasonable in standard. It seems worse than pretty much all of the Mirrodin Swords, though, and certainly far worse than Jitte. From that standpoint, I can't see it doing anything in eternal formats.
In standard, though, this card could do work.
If this is part of a cycle, then let's wait and see if there are similarly powerful equipment for the other colors.
Yeah. A way better bet is to just run Sword of Fire and Ice and use that to bypass the TNN entirely, while getting CA and additional damage, and for a lower equip cost.
Seriously there's no reason to even consider using this card in Legacy.
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And if you were already losing, it doesn't matter which one is equipped - you can't block TNN regardless of equipment. In fact Sword drawing you cards might get you a sweeper answer at least.
Godsend seems like a inferior Sword of X and Y to me. It's not strictly inferior, of course, but it's generally inferior.
This thread has been full of inane comments but this takes the cake IMO. This is the big money card of the set, like Brimaz was for BNG and sphinx's revelation was for RTR. I don't see this falling below $20 for the duration of its stay in standard, and it's got modern and legacy applications too. (not because of the TNN interaction, but because +3/+3 and being extremely detrimental to block is just that good) and if Amazon still has them for $1.99 as someone posted earlier in the thread, it would be a great investment opportunity.
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Overstated. This card seems like it's on par with Behemoth Sledge in terms of power and effect. Sure, the exile effect is potentially more potent than lifelink, but it's also a punisher mechanic. No one will let you do trigger that ability unless they'll lose the game if they do not. It probably WILL see play in Standard because the effect is powerful, but it's worse than all of the Mirrodin swords in Legacy. I would not be surprised to see a $20.00 preorder, but I would not think that this card will hold its price like Brimaz. First, it's not as good as Brimaz, and second, the rest of the set is shaping out to be better than BNG so we'll have value spread out.
Yea 1.99 for the Godsend novel. Whoever bought those is going to be disappointed.
I am not saying that it will be worthless by any means. But, I think the pre-order price will be overhyped. I love white and I was one of the ones who preordered Bramaz when he was still reasonably priced. I think this one is more of a trap though to be honest. I also would have a hard time running more than 2 of it mainboard but could see a third being sideboarded depending on the matchup.
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Tee-hee.
But, yeah, if the rest of the set is any good this is a $5.00 card maybe. If it manages to place in a top 8 somewhere, then it can push into the $20.00s, sure, but it just doesn't seem good enough to maintain that kind of price.
It has no place over Sword of Fire and Ice, Batterskull, or Jitte due to the equip cost. The exile effect would be negligible in most matchups, and the places where it would make a good sideboard choice, we already have better options.
Looks like a fun card for standard though. It could see some play as a 2-of in the right shell.
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