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Obviously a limited bomb, but not quite pushed to the point of constructed playabity, even in the dedicated heroic decks that have been popping up here and there.
So a pushed Seraph of Dawn. Seems a waste of a rare slot. If they were going to keep heroic they could at least try to do something interesting with it.
My thoughts exactly. Is (a rather weak) heroic effect worth two step shift in rarity? I do not think so.
To be fair, Seraph of Dawn is pushed for a post-NWO common. I do agree, though. This thing needs something a little more to be Rare. Even 1 more toughness would have done it.
How many times are they going to use that exact same Heroic effect?
The +1/+1 counter is the "default" white heroic effect. There's nothing really wrong with design symmetry, and now we've had exactly one white rare in each set that uses it (Fabled Hero, Hero of Iroas, this).
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On 7/14/10, broke 1900 mark! <3 ROE.
I think, for the sake of my vorthos heart, im going to start expecting this effect, and start being surprised when the cards DONT get this effect.
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I fear I won't have much time to play Magic these days.
I get to watch worlds develop around me.
I get to watch great leaders, terrible oppressors, and trend setters rise and fall.
Limited, Standard, Modern, everything is a different playing field I feel I can observe, but will not actually touch.
I look forward to the stories I will hear.
And more so to the ones I will watch unfold first hand.
Isn't the unknown exciting?
I don't mind if a common or uncommon is only strong in limited, but when it's a rare... I know I'm gonna open this one like crazy in my prize boosters...
I do hope it is the white prerelease card since I already assumed it would suck for constructed. And I also really like heroic in limited, so I'd be fine having it as my promo (unlike the terrible Silent Sentinel.)
It's funny how people get offended at an ability word working the same like 30% of the time, but they're fine with keywords working exactly the same 100% of the time.
Heroic's design space is just a little closer to a keyword than most ability words. The +1/+1 counter trigger is used because it plays well and fits well on a variety of cards. It doesn't need to be varied just because it can be.
My thoughts exactly. Is (a rather weak) heroic effect worth two step shift in rarity? I do not think so.
To be fair, Seraph of Dawn is pushed for a post-NWO common. I do agree, though. This thing needs something a little more to be Rare. Even 1 more toughness would have done it.
Boring design, but likely to be powerful in limited. I'm gonna go ahead and echo the feelings that this looks like an intro pack/prerelease promo. I would be pretty okay with that.
I'd be pretty disgusted to have this running around in limited at uncommon. Wingsteed Rider+Hopeful Eidolon is annoying enough as a two card combination.
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I primarily play limited, so most of my spoiler season comments view cards through that lens.
Dawnbringer Charioteers 2WW
Creature - Human Solider (R)
Flying, Lifelink
Heroic - Whenever you cast a spell that targets Dawnbringer Charioteers, put a +1/+1 counter on Dawnbringer Charioteers.
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GU Prime Speaker Zegana
RGB Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund
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My thoughts exactly. Is (a rather weak) heroic effect worth two step shift in rarity? I do not think so.
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
+1 to "how much this heroic effect can be done". 11/29 heroic cards put counters, 6/11 white heroic cards put +1/+1 counter on themselves.
And the combination of these two facts makes the rare absolutely not inspiring.
(edited for suddenly failed English).
The +1/+1 counter is the "default" white heroic effect. There's nothing really wrong with design symmetry, and now we've had exactly one white rare in each set that uses it (Fabled Hero, Hero of Iroas, this).
On 7/14/10, broke 1900 mark! <3 ROE.
I get to watch great leaders, terrible oppressors, and trend setters rise and fall.
Limited, Standard, Modern, everything is a different playing field I feel I can observe, but will not actually touch.
I look forward to the stories I will hear.
And more so to the ones I will watch unfold first hand.
Isn't the unknown exciting?
I disagree, there's plenty of effects you can put on Heroic, like Artisan of Forms' ability, for example.
It's just they haven't done it.
I don't mind if a common or uncommon is only strong in limited, but when it's a rare... I know I'm gonna open this one like crazy in my prize boosters...
I do hope it is the white prerelease card since I already assumed it would suck for constructed. And I also really like heroic in limited, so I'd be fine having it as my promo (unlike the terrible Silent Sentinel.)
Heroic's design space is just a little closer to a keyword than most ability words. The +1/+1 counter trigger is used because it plays well and fits well on a variety of cards. It doesn't need to be varied just because it can be.
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BR Olivia Voldaren
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Yep. Right now, it should be uncommon.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
Early frontrunner for windmill-slam first pick of the set.
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