I like the idea of the fall set actually being two seperate small sets, maybe followed by a big set or another small one. So:
Fall = Huey+Dewey
Winter = Louie
Spring = ?
Would make for an interesting draft experience - each pack in fall is your choice of Huey OR Dewey, In Winter you draft Louie/Huey/Dewey
I like this idea, but how is it different than mistake #10?
It's different in that they actually ARE two different sets, and they're labelled as such.
Both accidental halves of Legends were labelled as "Legends" - and you had no means of telling it's A or B until you actually OPEN a pack.
I doubt it will come to this, but it sure is an interesting thought experiment... and you never know.
If that were the case, I wonder if the 2 packs will have same or different UPCs? I also wonder if one booster box will have 18 of one kind and 18 of the other.
This idea was floated in another thread (there is a lot of overlap between threads these days, isn't it...?) and someone there quoted Mark Rosewater as saying it is a bad idea to release two sets at the same time because they would be competing with themselves. No matter how hard they tried, it is likely that one of the two sets was more desirable than the other and that players would simply buy one over the other.
I wonder if they considered a split in the spirit of the Legends mistake mentioned above? Instead of two boxes for two sets they could have one box with 18 packs from A and 18 packs from B.
Why is a block of Greek mythology copies bad? It's not like Theros is just a book of stories that are exactly copying Greek mythology, it's an expansion of Magic, with Magic mechanics and cards. The cards get to interpret the stories into a different medium. Even if they were just pure copy-paste reproductions of the original myths, (which they aren't) it would still be just as interesting to see and play with the card interpretations of Greek myths.
I can understand and agree with the idea of making certain monsters from Greek myth into entire tribes like the Minotaurs being poor flavor design and eating up room for what could have been more interesting one-of cards referencing more from the source material. And having had the story focus more on Kiora's meddling and Xenagos vs. Pantheon over having the humans fighting Minotuars and blah blah. But Theros is still a great block despite this.
Actually it's the opposite. What Theros needed is more mtg signature stuff, such as tribes and bottom-up design (such as adding enchantment synergy cards) and less greek mythos direct reap offs (the cards referring to specific stories).
Theros is likd Kamigawa in my opinion, were using too much of a outside mtg source harmed mtg's brand and uniqueness.
Why is a block of Greek mythology copies bad? It's not like Theros is just a book of stories that are exactly copying Greek mythology, it's an expansion of Magic, with Magic mechanics and cards. The cards get to interpret the stories into a different medium. Even if they were just pure copy-paste reproductions of the original myths, (which they aren't) it would still be just as interesting to see and play with the card interpretations of Greek myths.
This is how I feel about it. And I loved Kamigawa too so.
What I find disturbing is that it seems less likely they'd reprint Zen (+ Onslaught) fetches in an expert set before Return to Zendikar. So while they COULD do so in a fall expert set AND then Return the Zendikar later, I'm now thinking it's more likely they'll print them in M15.
They are not reprinting the fetchlands with Deathrite Shaman and the shocklands both being in Standard.
I can understand and agree with the idea of making certain monsters from Greek myth into entire tribes like the Minotaurs being poor flavor design and eating up room for what could have been more interesting one-of cards referencing more from the source material. And having had the story focus more on Kiora's meddling and Xenagos vs. Pantheon over having the humans fighting Minotuars and blah blah. But Theros is still a great block despite this.
Actually it's the opposite. What Theros needed is more mtg signature stuff, such as tribes and bottom-up design (such as adding enchantment synergy cards) and less greek mythos direct reap offs (the cards referring to specific stories).
Theros is likd Kamigawa in my opinion, were using too much of a outside mtg source harmed mtg's brand and uniqueness.
But Theros isn't bottom up, it's top down. So your entire point is moot.
What I find disturbing is that it seems less likely they'd reprint Zen (+ ) fetches in an expert set before Return to Zendikar. So while they COULD do so in a fall expert set AND then Return the Zendikar later, I'm now thinking it's more likely they'll print them in M15.
They are not reprinting the fetchlands with and the shocklands both being in Standard.
Based on the fact they really do not like to put lands that can cause a player to choose to lose life in a core set I do not see fetches in a core set. In addition, the new design philosophy is to print all ten of a land cycle and it is unlikely that R&D would be willing to dedicate 10 rare slots to lands alone.
I think the most likely reprint is in MM2 which I expect will show up June 2015. There is a chance they could show up in but if they do I suspect a lot of players would complain about the effect it would have on the drafting.
What I find disturbing is that it seems less likely they'd reprint Zen (+ ) fetches in an expert set before Return to Zendikar. So while they COULD do so in a fall expert set AND then Return the Zendikar later, I'm now thinking it's more likely they'll print them in M15.
They are not reprinting the fetchlands with and the shocklands both being in Standard.
Based on the fact they really do not like to put lands that can cause a player to choose to lose life in a core set I do not see fetches in a core set. In addition, the new design philosophy is to print all ten of a land cycle and it is unlikely that R&D would be willing to dedicate 10 rare slots to lands alone.
I think the most likely reprint is in MM2 which I expect will show up June 2015. There is a chance they could show up in but if they do I suspect a lot of players would complain about the effect it would have on the drafting.
While I agree with most of this, R&D will have to dedicate those 10 slots to a dual land cycle or else there can't be dual land cycles in core sets in general.
What I find disturbing is that it seems less likely they'd reprint Zen (+ ) fetches in an expert set before Return to Zendikar. So while they COULD do so in a fall expert set AND then Return the Zendikar later, I'm now thinking it's more likely they'll print them in M15.
They are not reprinting the fetchlands with and the shocklands both being in Standard.
Based on the fact they really do not like to put lands that can cause a player to choose to lose life in a core set I do not see fetches in a core set. In addition, the new design philosophy is to print all ten of a land cycle and it is unlikely that R&D would be willing to dedicate 10 rare slots to lands alone.
I think the most likely reprint is in MM2 which I expect will show up June 2015. There is a chance they could show up in but if they do I suspect a lot of players would complain about the effect it would have on the drafting.
While I agree with most of this, R&D will have to dedicate those 10 slots to a dual land cycle or else there can't be dual land cycles in core sets in general.
Which, quite frankly, would be fine. Printing dual land cycles in the regular block keeps them legal in standard longer, and gets more of them opened and into circulation. (Since core sets have the shortest life in standard, and typically are not popular for limited play).
What I find disturbing is that it seems less likely they'd reprint Zen (+ ) fetches in an expert set before Return to Zendikar. So while they COULD do so in a fall expert set AND then Return the Zendikar later, I'm now thinking it's more likely they'll print them in M15.
They are not reprinting the fetchlands with and the shocklands both being in Standard.
Based on the fact they really do not like to put lands that can cause a player to choose to lose life in a core set I do not see fetches in a core set. In addition, the new design philosophy is to print all ten of a land cycle and it is unlikely that R&D would be willing to dedicate 10 rare slots to lands alone.
I think the most likely reprint is in MM2 which I expect will show up June 2015. There is a chance they could show up in but if they do I suspect a lot of players would complain about the effect it would have on the drafting.
While I agree with most of this, R&D will have to dedicate those 10 slots to a dual land cycle or else there can't be dual land cycles in core sets in general.
Which, quite frankly, would be fine. Printing dual land cycles in the regular block keeps them legal in standard longer, and gets more of them opened and into circulation. (Since core sets have the shortest life in standard, and typically are not popular for limited play).
It alsso means that only 2 dual land cycles will be in Standard at a time on average, which is less than what we've usually had.
They printed all 10 painlands in both 9th and 10th edition, so there's no reason why they couldn't do so in core sets in the future.
MM2 is going to be "too late". Without reprints, the Zen fetches will be $200+ this time next year, and MM2 will still be months away. Maybe they'll put them in Conspiracy, but that won't make much of a dent. (It would certainly help sell the product, though.)
They printed all 10 painlands in both 9th and 10th edition, so there's no reason why they couldn't do so in core sets in the future.
Yes, they could do it but reading/listening to R&D it is unlikely. Tenth was printed in 2007, NWO was something they moved to in 2008. In an article about M10 development, Tom LaPille discussed the replacement of the pain lands with the check lands (emphasis mine).
As a developer, one of the pieces of Magic 2010 that I am happiest about are its rare lands. The pain lands from Ninth Edition and Tenth Edition were tournament staples for a long time, but it was difficult to explain to new players why they should play with Yavimaya Coast in their green-blue deck when they may end up taking damage as a punishment for trying to cast their spells. The pain lands are also fiddly to play with, since using them for colored mana requires either adjusting a twenty sided die or writing down a new number on a sheet of paper.
Dragonskull Summit and its friends were created by Magic 2010 lead designer Aaron Forsythe, and they solve tons of problems that the painlands had. They don't require any life adjustment, often come into play untapped, and are powerful enough to be tournament cards. When Magic 2010 released, there was some unhappiness from players about these lands' inability to cast spells on turn one. Having played with them for nine months before the rest of the world, I was confident that they were good enough anyway, and I'm happy to see that everyone else agreed. We like how these lands work, and we're going to keep them around.
MM2 is going to be "too late". Without reprints, the Zen fetches will be $200+ this time next year, and MM2 will still be months away. Maybe they'll put them in Conspiracy, but that won't make much of a dent. (It would certainly help sell the product, though.)
I agree that it will be too late but we must remember that R&D is working ~2 years in advance. The market moves in days and weeks, not months and years. WotC can try and predict what the market will do but they are not able to readt as fast as you might like. I have in the past suggested they do a "Modern deckbuilder's toolkit" that allows them to reprint Modern staples but as MMA showed they are still learning about where the threshold is for reprints. MMA was released in 2013, which means R&D was looking at it in 2011 when Modern was introduced as a format. They only just got data back on MMA last year in terms of reactions to the reprinting and the set size, so it seems that R&D's first "next chance" to react would be 2015. The Modern Event Deck will presumably help, along with reprints of certain staples in other sets but the fact that the fetches are a cycle makes them a bit more of a challenge to just shoehorn in for a reprint.
What I find disturbing is that it seems less likely they'd reprint Zen (+ Onslaught) fetches in an expert set before Return to Zendikar. So while they COULD do so in a fall expert set AND then Return the Zendikar later, I'm now thinking it's more likely they'll print them in M15.
they reprint these in M15 I will be buying at least 200 fetchlands to sit on. I figure if they go down to $10 each, $2000 is cheap money to pay just to see yourself able to sell 120 3-5 years later at $30 each. thats a 180% return over 3-5 years.
I don't see them falling below 10 in the near or distant future, even if reprinted.
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they reprint these in M15 I will be buying at least 200 fetchlands to sit on. I figure if they go down to $10 each, $2000 is cheap money to pay just to see yourself able to sell 120 3-5 years later at $30 each. thats a 180% return over 3-5 years.
I don't see them falling below 10 in the near or distant future, even if reprinted.
They printed all 10 painlands in both 9th and 10th edition, so there's no reason why they couldn't do so in core sets in the future.
Yes, they could do it but reading/listening to R&D it is unlikely. Tenth was printed in 2007, NWO was something they moved to in 2008. In an article about M10 development, Tom LaPille discussed the replacement of the pain lands with the check lands (emphasis mine).
Your emphasis does nothing to support your point. All it says is new players didn't understand pain lands; this has no bearing on five vs. ten card cycles in core sets.
MM2 is going to be "too late". Without reprints, the Zen fetches will be $200+ this time next year, and MM2 will still be months away. Maybe they'll put them in Conspiracy, but that won't make much of a dent. (It would certainly help sell the product, though.)
I agree that it will be too late but we must remember that R&D is working ~2 years in advance. The market moves in days and weeks, not months and years. WotC can try and predict what the market will do but they are not able to readt as fast as you might like. I have in the past suggested they do a "Modern deckbuilder's toolkit" that allows them to reprint Modern staples but as MMA showed they are still learning about where the threshold is for reprints. MMA was released in 2013, which means R&D was looking at it in 2011 when Modern was introduced as a format. They only just got data back on MMA last year in terms of reactions to the reprinting and the set size, so it seems that R&D's first "next chance" to react would be 2015. The Modern Event Deck will presumably help, along with reprints of certain staples in other sets but the fact that the fetches are a cycle makes them a bit more of a challenge to just shoehorn in for a reprint.
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Irrelevant, because we already knew last year fetchlands desperately needed reprinting in Modern; that's why many thought they would be in Theros or M14, or that we'd get an MM2 this year. None of that happened. And no, they weren't looking at MMA when Modern was introduced; that came some months later. There's no challenge to reprinting fetches; you just reprint them in the next slot you have available unless flavor reasons (Theros) prevent that. And if it doesn't fit in Huey, then you gotta do it in M15, or break them in half so you get half in M15 (Onslaught fetches) and half in MM2 (Zendikar fetches), or somesuch.
Right now they're only hurting Modern with the lack of reprints. I don't mind myself; I'm making money as prices go up not only for fetches, but for cheaper alternatives like Innistrad lands. But it's bad for the game.
They printed all 10 painlands in both 9th and 10th edition, so there's no reason why they couldn't do so in core sets in the future.
Yes, they could do it but reading/listening to R&D it is unlikely. Tenth was printed in 2007, NWO was something they moved to in 2008. In an article about M10 development, Tom LaPille discussed the replacement of the pain lands with the check lands (emphasis mine).
Your emphasis does nothing to support your point. All it says is new players didn't understand pain lands; this has no bearing on five vs. ten card cycles in core sets.
I was responding directly to your point regarding the reprinting of pain lands, not ten card cycles in core sets. I suspect they would need to boost the set size slightly if they wanted to print a 10 land rare land cycle but this wouldn't be too difficult.
They printed all 10 painlands in both 9th and 10th edition, so there's no reason why they couldn't do so in core sets in the future.
Yes, they could do it but reading/listening to R&D it is unlikely. Tenth was printed in 2007, NWO was something they moved to in 2008. In an article about M10 development, Tom LaPille discussed the replacement of the pain lands with the check lands (emphasis mine).
Your emphasis does nothing to support your point. All it says is new players didn't understand pain lands; this has no bearing on five vs. ten card cycles in core sets.
I was responding directly to your point regarding the reprinting of pain lands, not ten card cycles in core sets. I suspect they would need to boost the set size slightly if they wanted to print a 10 land rare land cycle but this wouldn't be too difficult.
Especially since we have the extra twenty slots now for large sets. Yeah, they said for uncommons, but maaaaaaaybe?
So to get this thread back on track (hopefully) since Big/Big/Big is highly unlikely (although not impossible) and design is unwilling to release multiple sets at once, we can assume the "unique block structure" isn't referring to size or configuration of the cycle, but is instead referring to the breakdown within the cycle. What that means is open to interpretation, but there's a lot of design space there, so I don't know how much further we can speculate.
They printed all 10 painlands in both 9th and 10th edition, so there's no reason why they couldn't do so in core sets in the future.
Yes, they could do it but reading/listening to R&D it is unlikely. Tenth was printed in 2007, NWO was something they moved to in 2008. In an article about M10 development, Tom LaPille discussed the replacement of the pain lands with the check lands (emphasis mine).
Your emphasis does nothing to support your point. All it says is new players didn't understand pain lands; this has no bearing on five vs. ten card cycles in core sets.
[quote from="SirBruce" url="http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/the-rumor-mill/547462-huey-dewey-louie-confirmed-new-plane?comment=103"]MM2 is going to be "too late". Without reprints, the Zen fetches will be $200+ this time next year, and MM2 will still be months away. Maybe they'll put them in Conspiracy, but that won't make much of a dent. (It would certainly help sell the product, though.)
I agree that it will be too late but we must remember that R&D is working ~2 years in advance. The market moves in days and weeks, not months and years. WotC can try and predict what the market will do but they are not able to readt as fast as you might like. I have in the past suggested they do a "Modern deckbuilder's toolkit" that allows them to reprint Modern staples but as MMA showed they are still learning about where the threshold is for reprints. MMA was released in 2013, which means R&D was looking at it in 2011 when Modern was introduced as a format. They only just got data back on MMA last year in terms of reactions to the reprinting and the set size, so it seems that R&D's first "next chance" to react would be 2015. The Modern Event Deck will presumably help, along with reprints of certain staples in other sets but the fact that the fetches are a cycle makes them a bit more of a challenge to just shoehorn in for a reprint.
Irrelevant, because we already knew last year fetchlands desperately needed reprinting in Modern; that's why many thought they would be in Theros or M14, or that we'd get an MM2 this year. None of that happened. And no, they weren't looking at MMA when Modern was introduced; that came some months later. There's no challenge to reprinting fetches; you just reprint them in the next slot you have available unless flavor reasons (Theros) prevent that. And if it doesn't fit in Huey, then you gotta do it in M15, or break them in half so you get half in M15 (Onslaught fetches) and half in MM2 (Zendikar fetches), or somesuch.
Right now they're only hurting Modern with the lack of reprints. I don't mind myself; I'm making money as prices go up not only for fetches, but for cheaper alternatives like Innistrad lands. But it's bad for the game.
As I keep saying, they aren't going to reprint the fetchlands in M15. Deathrite Shaman and the Shocklands would both be in Standard still, as would a large amount of cards that would be used to create a BGx deck that would be able to dominate in the format.
I was responding directly to your point regarding the reprinting of pain lands, not ten card cycles in core sets. I suspect they would need to boost the set size slightly if they wanted to print a 10 land rare land cycle but this wouldn't be too difficult.
What are you saying specifically? You said they wouldn't do 10 land cycles in a core set. I responded that they've already done so. You responded quoting the article that shows they've already done so... why? You go on to say they would be unlikely to do so now, but nothing in the quote portion says anything like, "We printed 10 lands in 9th and 10th and that was a big mistake; we'll never do that again." Instead, it says, "Painlands didn't work to well in core sets so we'll use something else in the future."
As I keep saying, they aren't going to reprint the fetchlands in M15. Deathrite Shaman and the Shocklands would both be in Standard still, as would a large amount of cards that would be used to create a BGx deck that would be able to dominate in the format.
Okay, so now you must admit you were wrong about the 10 land objection. So now you're only objection is DRS, and that's easily resolved with banning or specific anti-DRS answers in M15.
if M15 has fetchs it will be soo crazy this rogues mounths before rotation...
From multi to mono and to multi back again esper player will be happy URW player will be kind glady those naya decks will be glad those GW agros will be happy ,mono B will be ***** and mono U ( Splashed or not) will be just as usual ( ) hahaha
if M15 has fetchs it will be soo crazy this rogues mounths before rotation...
From multi to mono and to multi back again esper player will be happy URW player will be kind glady those naya decks will be glad those GW agros will be happy ,mono B will be ***** and mono U ( Splashed or not) will be just as usual ( ) hahaha
Point being fetchlands in an expert set meet demand far better than a core set. Core sets are smaller now and only have a year run meaning something like fetches would absolutely have to be slated for the following core set as well. Case in point.... Baneslayer Angel and the M11 titans. Neither where expected to be so wanted and had to get a another reprint to not disappoint players. The fetches would have the same problem if not more so since their staples in formats other than standard, like modern and legacy. People will put up with some extra shuffling for two years when they realize A) They'll only be used in two color decks because multicolor is getting a serious down shift soon. Trying for three color won't be anywhere near worth it. B) They'll only going to be able fetch basics. Which would only make them somewhat better than Terramorphic Expanse/Evolving Wilds C) Players would gladly pay much less for them than their current prices. Which without a doubt we all agree is getting out of hand just like the shocklands where getting before RtR block.
Plus they stated they don't want shocks and fetches in standard together. And unlike the checklands, shocks and fetches already had a history of being very good together so even thinking they'll do it for three because it a short amount of time is ridiculous. So that keeps them out of the core set the current year.
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Point being fetchlands in an expert set meet demand far better than a core set. Core sets are smaller now and only have a year run meaning something like fetches would absolutely have to be slated for the following core set as well.
This is a pro, not a con. One reprinting of fetchlands isn't going to cut it; they need to be constantly reprinted, especially as Modern is growing. If we can't have Modern Masters every year, then they need to be in a core set every year. Or at worst, alternate years with Modern Masters.
I wonder if they considered a split in the spirit of the Legends mistake mentioned above? Instead of two boxes for two sets they could have one box with 18 packs from A and 18 packs from B.
Actually it's the opposite. What Theros needed is more mtg signature stuff, such as tribes and bottom-up design (such as adding enchantment synergy cards) and less greek mythos direct reap offs (the cards referring to specific stories).
Theros is likd Kamigawa in my opinion, were using too much of a outside mtg source harmed mtg's brand and uniqueness.
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This is how I feel about it. And I loved Kamigawa too so.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
They are not reprinting the fetchlands with Deathrite Shaman and the shocklands both being in Standard.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
But Theros isn't bottom up, it's top down. So your entire point is moot.
Based on the fact they really do not like to put lands that can cause a player to choose to lose life in a core set I do not see fetches in a core set. In addition, the new design philosophy is to print all ten of a land cycle and it is unlikely that R&D would be willing to dedicate 10 rare slots to lands alone.
I think the most likely reprint is in MM2 which I expect will show up June 2015. There is a chance they could show up in but if they do I suspect a lot of players would complain about the effect it would have on the drafting.
While I agree with most of this, R&D will have to dedicate those 10 slots to a dual land cycle or else there can't be dual land cycles in core sets in general.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
Which, quite frankly, would be fine. Printing dual land cycles in the regular block keeps them legal in standard longer, and gets more of them opened and into circulation. (Since core sets have the shortest life in standard, and typically are not popular for limited play).
It alsso means that only 2 dual land cycles will be in Standard at a time on average, which is less than what we've usually had.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
MM2 is going to be "too late". Without reprints, the Zen fetches will be $200+ this time next year, and MM2 will still be months away. Maybe they'll put them in Conspiracy, but that won't make much of a dent. (It would certainly help sell the product, though.)
Yes, they could do it but reading/listening to R&D it is unlikely. Tenth was printed in 2007, NWO was something they moved to in 2008. In an article about M10 development, Tom LaPille discussed the replacement of the pain lands with the check lands (emphasis mine).
I agree that it will be too late but we must remember that R&D is working ~2 years in advance. The market moves in days and weeks, not months and years. WotC can try and predict what the market will do but they are not able to readt as fast as you might like. I have in the past suggested they do a "Modern deckbuilder's toolkit" that allows them to reprint Modern staples but as MMA showed they are still learning about where the threshold is for reprints. MMA was released in 2013, which means R&D was looking at it in 2011 when Modern was introduced as a format. They only just got data back on MMA last year in terms of reactions to the reprinting and the set size, so it seems that R&D's first "next chance" to react would be 2015. The Modern Event Deck will presumably help, along with reprints of certain staples in other sets but the fact that the fetches are a cycle makes them a bit more of a challenge to just shoehorn in for a reprint.
they reprint these in M15 I will be buying at least 200 fetchlands to sit on. I figure if they go down to $10 each, $2000 is cheap money to pay just to see yourself able to sell 120 3-5 years later at $30 each. thats a 180% return over 3-5 years.
I don't see them falling below 10 in the near or distant future, even if reprinted.
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Your emphasis does nothing to support your point. All it says is new players didn't understand pain lands; this has no bearing on five vs. ten card cycles in core sets.
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Irrelevant, because we already knew last year fetchlands desperately needed reprinting in Modern; that's why many thought they would be in Theros or M14, or that we'd get an MM2 this year. None of that happened. And no, they weren't looking at MMA when Modern was introduced; that came some months later. There's no challenge to reprinting fetches; you just reprint them in the next slot you have available unless flavor reasons (Theros) prevent that. And if it doesn't fit in Huey, then you gotta do it in M15, or break them in half so you get half in M15 (Onslaught fetches) and half in MM2 (Zendikar fetches), or somesuch.
Right now they're only hurting Modern with the lack of reprints. I don't mind myself; I'm making money as prices go up not only for fetches, but for cheaper alternatives like Innistrad lands. But it's bad for the game.
I was responding directly to your point regarding the reprinting of pain lands, not ten card cycles in core sets. I suspect they would need to boost the set size slightly if they wanted to print a 10 land rare land cycle but this wouldn't be too difficult.
Especially since we have the extra twenty slots now for large sets. Yeah, they said for uncommons, but maaaaaaaybe?
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So to get this thread back on track (hopefully) since Big/Big/Big is highly unlikely (although not impossible) and design is unwilling to release multiple sets at once, we can assume the "unique block structure" isn't referring to size or configuration of the cycle, but is instead referring to the breakdown within the cycle. What that means is open to interpretation, but there's a lot of design space there, so I don't know how much further we can speculate.
tl;dr:
Who knows?
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Flyers
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Zombies
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Oloro
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As I keep saying, they aren't going to reprint the fetchlands in M15. Deathrite Shaman and the Shocklands would both be in Standard still, as would a large amount of cards that would be used to create a BGx deck that would be able to dominate in the format.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
What are you saying specifically? You said they wouldn't do 10 land cycles in a core set. I responded that they've already done so. You responded quoting the article that shows they've already done so... why? You go on to say they would be unlikely to do so now, but nothing in the quote portion says anything like, "We printed 10 lands in 9th and 10th and that was a big mistake; we'll never do that again." Instead, it says, "Painlands didn't work to well in core sets so we'll use something else in the future."
Okay, so now you must admit you were wrong about the 10 land objection. So now you're only objection is DRS, and that's easily resolved with banning or specific anti-DRS answers in M15.
From multi to mono and to multi back again esper player will be happy URW player will be kind glady those naya decks will be glad those GW agros will be happy ,mono B will be ***** and mono U ( Splashed or not) will be just as usual ( ) hahaha
What about Rakdos lol
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Have some irony:
In the spirit of ignoring context, New World Order has nothing whatsoever to do with rares. It's about complexity at common and nowhere else.
Plus they stated they don't want shocks and fetches in standard together. And unlike the checklands, shocks and fetches already had a history of being very good together so even thinking they'll do it for three because it a short amount of time is ridiculous. So that keeps them out of the core set the current year.
BAfter the lights go out on you, after your worthless life is through. I will remember how you scream...B
This is a pro, not a con. One reprinting of fetchlands isn't going to cut it; they need to be constantly reprinted, especially as Modern is growing. If we can't have Modern Masters every year, then they need to be in a core set every year. Or at worst, alternate years with Modern Masters.
I don't believe they did.