Nobody on Theros found that strange? Most flavor text references the gods of a particular faction or color, it seems like the lives of various races are pretty tied to their patron gods. So did the Satyrs just never think to ask why there wasn't a god for them?
A) Most satyrs didn't care.
B) The ones that did were pretty pissed about the fact that they didn't have a god, and others did.
To expand upon that...
With Xenagos in charge, most Satyrs would enjoy having a god that is 100% on their side. How does one pay respects to Xenagos? Destroy anything, cause mischief, and revel to your hearts content. So basically the normal status quo for all Satyrs. Some Satyrs may dislike him but then that means disliking to revel, cause mischief, and destroy what you please; things that Xenagos encourages. One could argue that Satyrs would not care anyway if their god encouraged them or not, however Xenagos also would not really care and do as he pleases; which again a Win/Win either way.
It wouldn't have to be Xenagos, but it probably is, because of the picture they're using. Take out Mogis while they're at it, maybe?
Phenax. He's the evil-ist one causing the most trouble other than Xenagos.
Why does it have to be an evil god? This is my personal conspiracy theory.
Ajani appears (gw p/w card) to help Elspeth (the reluctant sun's champion) slay the Sun God Heliod, freeing her of the burden she doesn't want. Now someone needs to take his place, Elspeth puts it onto Ajani. Ajani now stuck on Theros as the Sun God is no longer the DeFacto White P/W in the coresets. Elspeth takes his place in the coreset.
Now, I believe that wizards sees Xenagos is a hugely popular character and will not kill him off so soon. Bad move to cash in on future Xenagos branded merchandise and use him to sell packs. I also think that if Elspeth where a regular character in the coresets it push more people to open coreset packs. She is more popular than Ajani.
Ajani appears (gw p/w card) to help Elspeth (the reluctant sun's champion) slay the Sun God Heliod, freeing her of the burden she doesn't want. Now someone needs to take his place, Elspeth puts it onto Ajani. Ajani now stuck on Theros as the Sun God is no longer the DeFacto White P/W in the coresets. Elspeth takes his place in the coreset.
That is extremely out of character for Elspeth. She wouldn't weasel out of her duty like that, whether she wants to or not. She wouldn't force Ajani into a post he doesn't want stranded on a plane he doesn't want to stay on. She certainly couldn't get away with being monowhite, let alone the poster child of monowhite in the core set, after those sort of shenanigans.
That is extremely out of character for Elspeth. She wouldn't weasel out of her duty like that, whether she wants to or not. She wouldn't force Ajani into a post he doesn't want stranded on a plane he doesn't want to stay on. She certainly couldn't get away with being monowhite, let alone the poster child of monowhite in the core set, after those sort of shenanigans.
Well you do know that "Creative" has a random attitude when it comes to these things. Like when the New Phyrexia block ended, IIRC it was said that Elspeth went on with Karn to hunt for Phyrexia. Then BOOM! She ended up being forcely evacuated by Koth and landed smack dab in Theros.
Add to that, there are Leonins in Theros, they could easily justify Ajani's Godhood using that.
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That is extremely out of character for Elspeth. She wouldn't weasel out of her duty like that, whether she wants to or not. She wouldn't force Ajani into a post he doesn't want stranded on a plane he doesn't want to stay on. She certainly couldn't get away with being monowhite, let alone the poster child of monowhite in the core set, after those sort of shenanigans.
Well you do know that "Creative" has a random attitude when it comes to these things. Like when the New Phyrexia block ended, IIRC it was said that Elspeth went on with Karn to hunt for Phyrexia. Then BOOM! She ended up being forcely evacuated by Koth and landed smack dab in Theros.
Add to that, there are Leonins in Theros, they could easily justify Ajani's Godhood using that.
Elspeth's evacuation to Theros is perfectly in character for both her and Koth. Creative might change their minds about important plot events more than one would hope but they don't have Elspeth suddenly acting like Chandra for no good reason.
There's obviously a lot pointing to it anyway, but if you look at the upper-right hand corner, you can see AGOS, which removes almost any doubt that some other god will be the target in question.
There's obviously a lot pointing to it anyway, but if you look at the upper-right hand corner, you can see AGOS, which removes almost any doubt that some other god will be the target in question.
Indeed, as if the promo image itself was not enough to stop people from silly speculations like the one with Elspeth slaying Heliod, this pretty much seals the deal.
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There's obviously a lot pointing to it anyway, but if you look at the upper-right hand corner, you can see AGOS, which removes almost any doubt that some other god will be the target in question.
Indeed, as if the promo image itself was not enough to stop people from silly speculations like the one with Elspeth slaying Heliod, this pretty much seals the deal.
Never underestimate the capacity of people to delude themselves.
Keep in mind this is Elspeth we're talking about. I would love it if she forges the godslayer to kill Xenagos...then at the final moment freaks out and runs away, leaving Xenagos to triumph, Theros to fall into chaos, and Heliod maybe even dead.
But I do love heroes who fail and fail and fail. Also I support Xenagos and wouldn't want to slay him.
Why does Heliod need slaying exactly? And why couldn't Ajani take his place and give the Leonins their own god? I just thought it was obvious that we were building up to Xenagos getting the ax as he becomes more and more powerful, with all the antlers coming out of his head signaling how he was growing? Not to mention the Erebos and Pharika about to be laid waste to by him in the image.
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The point is Elspeth just wants to be left alone, she doesn't wanna be the son god, might convince Ajani to do it. Especially since the Leonin on theros have no god and are angry about that fact.
Is it possible that Xenagos may just lose his Deism? He could just become an ordinary planeswalker again, and run away, solving the "What if he leaves?" question.
its not god-slayer, but gods-layer. with xenagos around, it becomes an orgy free-for-all. but heliod is a prude, and disapproves what nyx has turned into after xenagos' arrival.
I also won't believe that grainy overly enlarged image is an actual picture of the event kit until I see one, or at least a better photo. For all we know that picture could be someone's photoshopped fantasy. How many stores already have the JOU event kit?
godslayer sounds like equipment to me. I'd love 10 new pieces of enchantment equipment (one for every two color combo)
Perhaps an equipment with an effect like Sword of Kaldra, so that the equipped creature can literally kill the otherwise indestructible gods.
I'm also reminded of the Jhereg series of books by Steven Brust, where there is a soul-destroying Great Weapon named Godslayer.
Something like would be cool:
Godslayer, 3 Legendary Artifact - Equipment
Equipped creature gets +2/+2 and has "Whenever this creature deals combat damage to another creature, that creatures loses indestructible until end of turn."
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Wither/Infect are good ways to deal with indestructible too, but since those mechanics aren't in this block, the above version would probably be the best way to deal with gods without using an exile ability.
I also won't believe that grainy overly enlarged image is an actual picture of the event kit until I see one, or at least a better photo. For all we know that picture could be someone's photoshopped fantasy. How many stores already have the JOU event kit?
And I assume you have also a reasonable explanation WHY THE HECK would someone even bother doing that....?
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I also won't believe that grainy overly enlarged image is an actual picture of the event kit until I see one, or at least a better photo. For all we know that picture could be someone's photoshopped fantasy. How many stores already have the JOU event kit?
And I assume you have also a reasonable explanation WHY THE HECK would someone even bother doing that....?
Because people make fake spoilers almost every spoiler season?
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I also won't believe that grainy overly enlarged image is an actual picture of the event kit until I see one, or at least a better photo. For all we know that picture could be someone's photoshopped fantasy. How many stores already have the JOU event kit?
And I assume you have also a reasonable explanation WHY THE HECK would someone even bother doing that....?
Because people make fake spoilers almost every spoiler season?
Yeah. Fake CARDS, usually. What reason should anybody have to fake THIS is beyond my imagination.
Xenagos is a proven antagonist. We have promo art of Elspeth and Ajani fightning him. We know that each challenge deck corresponds to the challenge faced by the protagonists. We know that we have to "defeat a god". Heliod specifically called Elspeth a non-Theran, to deal with the situation, because Xen is invincible to anything coming from Theros itself. And yet people are doubting we will fight Xenagos. Mr. Tanro, who proposed the silly "slaying Heliod" theory, here thinks that someone would go such league to fake this image of something EVERYBODY expects to be? Just because it (quite expectably) does not support his nonsensical theory?
The point is Elspeth just wants to be left alone, she doesn't wanna be the son god, might convince Ajani to do it. Especially since the Leonin on theros have no god and are angry about that fact.
Wrong. They have no god and they do not care. See Oreskos Sun Guide flavortext.
Why does Heliod need slaying exactly? And why couldn't Ajani take his place and give the Leonins their own god? I just thought it was obvious that we were building up to Xenagos getting the ax as he becomes more and more powerful, with all the antlers coming out of his head signaling how he was growing? Not to mention the Erebos and Pharika about to be laid waste to by him in the image.
AFAIK, he cannot hurt Erebos or Pharika (more probably Karametra, btw), in the same way that Heliod cannot harm him.
He could maybe steal the godhold of other gods(maybe killing them) after all he discouvered how to become a god hin self(and for all we know,the other gods were born gods and never becomed or werwmortals) but this is speculation ofcourse
It would be nice if this set had the other 5 gods, plus a 5 colour god that did something ridiculous. ( I need a new 5 colour general as Fetus doesn't work how I want it)
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Just for those denying the image, it IS a real picture. You fight Xenagos. This is completely confirmed at this point.
EDIT: The prerelease pack will contain 2x Theros, 2x Born of the Gods, 1x Journey into Nyx and 1x Seeded pack. Just thought I'd say that for people who might think otherwise.
Just for those denying the image, it IS a real picture. You fight Xenagos. This is completely confirmed at this point.
EDIT: The prerelease pack will contain 2x Theros, 2x Born of the Gods, 1x Journey into Nyx and 1x Seeded pack. Just thought I'd say that for people who might think otherwise.
good to know, unless the prerelease promos are amazing i will not be attending. i really dont like the way they are doing these pre release packs, 1 pack of JIN? seriously, thats lame. i feel like that defeats the point of the prerelease; getting to play with/have new cards early, and promoting the new set. if you're only getting one pack of the new set than none of these goals are really accomplished. plus it just feels kinda crummy. i am praying for the day when small sets are gone or all their problems are solved
Well 2-2-2 (1 + 1 of the color you chice in JIN case) is the usual way pre releases in the 3rd set are done (i think jusr with RTR they did 1-1-4 that was good as hell but other wise 3rds sets always do 2-2-2 so i don't see how this is worse. ...
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i dont think its "worse" than anything, i think its just bad in general. only getting one pack of cards from a set at prerelease event for that set has always been disappointing, and the seeded packs need to be mono colored or more heavily weighted to the chosen color if they're gonna keep doing that. its a terrible feeling when you cant play your chosen color at the event, it would be better off feels wise if it was just another booster. i miss tournament packs. i think the prerelease kits should have something like a 40 or 50 card randomized "tournament pack" of cards from the large set and 3 boosters of the new set. that is similar to how my old lgs ran it back in the day (tournament pack + 1 new booster) but would highlight the new cards more.
i dont think its "worse" than anything, i think its just bad in general. only getting one pack of cards from a set at prerelease event for that set has always been disappointing, and the seeded packs need to be mono colored or more heavily weighted to the chosen color if they're gonna keep doing that. its a terrible feeling when you cant play your chosen color at the event, it would be better off feels wise if it was just another booster. i miss tournament packs. i think the prerelease kits should have something like a 40 or 50 card randomized "tournament pack" of cards from the large set and 3 boosters of the new set. that is similar to how my old lgs ran it back in the day (tournament pack + 1 new booster) but would highlight the new cards more.
I agree.
I understand that the regular limited format would be 2-2-2, but the pre-release sort of feels like a special case. It's mostly to play with some of the new cards a week early, so it would be nice to actually GET a fair amount of the new cards. It's a more casual event anyway, so who cares if 1-1-4 (with 4 of the new set) is suboptimal, it would be great to get a few extra new packs!
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To expand upon that...
With Xenagos in charge, most Satyrs would enjoy having a god that is 100% on their side. How does one pay respects to Xenagos? Destroy anything, cause mischief, and revel to your hearts content. So basically the normal status quo for all Satyrs. Some Satyrs may dislike him but then that means disliking to revel, cause mischief, and destroy what you please; things that Xenagos encourages. One could argue that Satyrs would not care anyway if their god encouraged them or not, however Xenagos also would not really care and do as he pleases; which again a Win/Win either way.
Why does it have to be an evil god? This is my personal conspiracy theory.
Ajani appears (gw p/w card) to help Elspeth (the reluctant sun's champion) slay the Sun God Heliod, freeing her of the burden she doesn't want. Now someone needs to take his place, Elspeth puts it onto Ajani. Ajani now stuck on Theros as the Sun God is no longer the DeFacto White P/W in the coresets. Elspeth takes his place in the coreset.
Now, I believe that wizards sees Xenagos is a hugely popular character and will not kill him off so soon. Bad move to cash in on future Xenagos branded merchandise and use him to sell packs. I also think that if Elspeth where a regular character in the coresets it push more people to open coreset packs. She is more popular than Ajani.
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That is extremely out of character for Elspeth. She wouldn't weasel out of her duty like that, whether she wants to or not. She wouldn't force Ajani into a post he doesn't want stranded on a plane he doesn't want to stay on. She certainly couldn't get away with being monowhite, let alone the poster child of monowhite in the core set, after those sort of shenanigans.
Well you do know that "Creative" has a random attitude when it comes to these things. Like when the New Phyrexia block ended, IIRC it was said that Elspeth went on with Karn to hunt for Phyrexia. Then BOOM! She ended up being forcely evacuated by Koth and landed smack dab in Theros.
Add to that, there are Leonins in Theros, they could easily justify Ajani's Godhood using that.
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Elspeth's evacuation to Theros is perfectly in character for both her and Koth. Creative might change their minds about important plot events more than one would hope but they don't have Elspeth suddenly acting like Chandra for no good reason.
Indeed, as if the promo image itself was not enough to stop people from silly speculations like the one with Elspeth slaying Heliod, this pretty much seals the deal.
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Never underestimate the capacity of people to delude themselves.
But I do love heroes who fail and fail and fail. Also I support Xenagos and wouldn't want to slay him.
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Equipped creature gets +2/+2 and has "Whenever this creature deals combat damage to another creature, that creatures loses indestructible until end of turn."
Equip 4
Wither/Infect are good ways to deal with indestructible too, but since those mechanics aren't in this block, the above version would probably be the best way to deal with gods without using an exile ability.
And I assume you have also a reasonable explanation WHY THE HECK would someone even bother doing that....?
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Because people make fake spoilers almost every spoiler season?
Standard - RIP Cat
Modern - Death & Taxes
Commander - Mazirek, Trostani, Angry Omnath
Yeah. Fake CARDS, usually. What reason should anybody have to fake THIS is beyond my imagination.
Xenagos is a proven antagonist. We have promo art of Elspeth and Ajani fightning him. We know that each challenge deck corresponds to the challenge faced by the protagonists. We know that we have to "defeat a god". Heliod specifically called Elspeth a non-Theran, to deal with the situation, because Xen is invincible to anything coming from Theros itself. And yet people are doubting we will fight Xenagos. Mr. Tanro, who proposed the silly "slaying Heliod" theory, here thinks that someone would go such league to fake this image of something EVERYBODY expects to be? Just because it (quite expectably) does not support his nonsensical theory?
Occam's Razor, for Christ's sake.
Wrong. They have no god and they do not care. See Oreskos Sun Guide flavortext.
AFAIK, he cannot hurt Erebos or Pharika (more probably Karametra, btw), in the same way that Heliod cannot harm him.
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It would be nice if this set had the other 5 gods, plus a 5 colour god that did something ridiculous. ( I need a new 5 colour general as Fetus doesn't work how I want it)
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I agree.
I understand that the regular limited format would be 2-2-2, but the pre-release sort of feels like a special case. It's mostly to play with some of the new cards a week early, so it would be nice to actually GET a fair amount of the new cards. It's a more casual event anyway, so who cares if 1-1-4 (with 4 of the new set) is suboptimal, it would be great to get a few extra new packs!