Just to confirm here, the reason this picture is dismissed as fake is because some people reckon the fonts aren't right? Has this gone under any closer scrutiny than casual observers eyeballing some blurry text and proclaiming that the lower case letters can't possibly be Beleren? I don't mean to insult anyone here, I just want to make sure that the "fake" verdict has some actual basis. We should by all means be sceptical of this sort of thing but I get the feeling it's just assumed to be fake without a clear understanding of why we think that.
I think Igor Kieryluk posted in the leak thread that he expected his art to be in the set unless WotC ended up going another direction with it, which led him to think the leak was fake.
Looks like Rout is reprinted in Conspiracy with his art. I think this lends credit to the leak.
I think Igor Kieryluk posted in the leak thread that he expected his art to be in the set unless WotC ended up going another direction with it, which led him to think the leak was fake.
Looks like Rout is reprinted in Conspiracy with his art. I think this lends credit to the leak.
That art is lovely. Maybe it was unused from NPH?
Seems like Igor is confirming the (indeed very lovely) art he expected to be in FTV:A instead became the Rout reprint in Conspiracy. So at least on this basis, the leak has merit again.
The leak had other things wrong with it, like the Fonts, the fact that we couldn't see the bottoms of any card that wasn't already confirmed (***), the fact that none of the "new" arts were fully visible, and, most damningly, the fact that Burning of Xinye used the original wording instead of the Oracle wording.
While there is a chance that the contents of the leak were accurate, the pictures themselves in the leak are 100% fake, likely made in MSE.
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So, with the announcement that decimate and rout shall be reprinted in Conspiracy, is it safe to presume that those cards shall not be reprinted in this set?
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The leak had other things wrong with it, like the Fonts,
Again what, precisely, is wrong with the fonts? Has there been a thorough analysis or is it just some observers' opinions? Without this and knowing that the Burning of Xinye claim is mistaken all that is left are grounds for suspicion, not any actual evidence of it being fake. The inability to see full cards is just a lack of evidence to the contrary, not proof that it's fake.
The only thing I know about this set is if there is no Dammnation on it Im not buying
I recall last year, when FTV:20 was due out, people were saying something like "if there is no Thoughtseize on it im not buying". well, it ended up in a MUCH larger print run than FTV, so... just a thought
Admittedly, I'll be disappointed if it doesn't include Damnation (with new Erebos-flavored art?).
Otherwise, "disappoint" just means "less price-gouging" and i'm fine with that. Ravages of War would just blow the price through the roof.
It will not have damnation. I expect damnation in Modern Masters 2 or the such Wizards is try to lower price of modern cards so the FTV reprint of damnation will not help modern.
One of the damning pieces of evidence was supposedly the text on the new Burning of Xinye? The text matches WotC's oracle. Any other database of card text/rules is inferior.
One of the damning pieces of evidence was supposedly the text on the new Burning of Xinye? The text matches WotC's oracle. Any other database of card text/rules is inferior.
Yep, people are checking the MTGS text and not bothering to look any further.
I would've preferred Erebos art to Heliod art. The least they could have done with Wrath of God if they needed to include Heliod is have him stabbing Elspeth.
I really wish this was "FTV: Annihalate your collection's value" and was just 10 Fetchlands, Tabernacle of Pendril Vale, and 4 Wastelands. Woulda been so much better.
Less idiodic comment: Rolling Earthquake is cool, but hasn'tbeen playable in years. Same with Burning of Xinye. Though I do think the cube is going to get some sweet additions with a foil armagedon with sick art, a foil burning of xinye, and a foil cataclysm.
I would've preferred Erebos art to Heliod art. The least they could have done with Wrath of God if they needed to include Heliod is have him stabbing Elspeth.
Well, you won't get any disagreement from me here.
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Me too, the "value" of someones collection should not impact what they print.
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"I'd say this about guarantees that it won't be up till this Friday, but considering the current track record, the ETA is now probably two weeks after the set has been out."
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Looks like Rout is reprinted in Conspiracy with his art. I think this lends credit to the leak.
Seems like Igor is confirming the (indeed very lovely) art he expected to be in FTV:A instead became the Rout reprint in Conspiracy. So at least on this basis, the leak has merit again.
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The Oracle text reads "Choose four lands..."
The original and "leaked" version both read "You destroy four of your lands..."
Again what, precisely, is wrong with the fonts? Has there been a thorough analysis or is it just some observers' opinions? Without this and knowing that the Burning of Xinye claim is mistaken all that is left are grounds for suspicion, not any actual evidence of it being fake. The inability to see full cards is just a lack of evidence to the contrary, not proof that it's fake.
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I recall last year, when FTV:20 was due out, people were saying something like "if there is no Thoughtseize on it im not buying". well, it ended up in a MUCH larger print run than FTV, so... just a thought
It will not have damnation. I expect damnation in Modern Masters 2 or the such Wizards is try to lower price of modern cards so the FTV reprint of damnation will not help modern.
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One of the damning pieces of evidence was supposedly the text on the new Burning of Xinye? The text matches WotC's oracle. Any other database of card text/rules is inferior.
Yep, people are checking the MTGS text and not bothering to look any further.
I would've preferred Erebos art to Heliod art. The least they could have done with Wrath of God if they needed to include Heliod is have him stabbing Elspeth.
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Less idiodic comment: Rolling Earthquake is cool, but hasn'tbeen playable in years. Same with Burning of Xinye. Though I do think the cube is going to get some sweet additions with a foil armagedon with sick art, a foil burning of xinye, and a foil cataclysm.
Well, you won't get any disagreement from me here.
Isn't this the list that was deemed fake?
Plus, a LOT of those arts are in Vintage Masters...
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I'm calling it real too. Dismissed way too fast.
That would be awesome; regular art or new art?
"I'd say this about guarantees that it won't be up till this Friday, but considering the current track record, the ETA is now probably two weeks after the set has been out."
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Speak for yourself, if drawing *****-headed wurms makes social justice warriors cry I'll make it my favorite hobby.
"I'd say this about guarantees that it won't be up till this Friday, but considering the current track record, the ETA is now probably two weeks after the set has been out."
Quote from Sirius_B
Speak for yourself, if drawing *****-headed wurms makes social justice warriors cry I'll make it my favorite hobby.