I try to be optimistic and avoid complaining about new cards, but as a Dimir player, I'm very upset with Phenax. I don't even play Standard and I'm upset, because I was really hoping to see a new avenue for UB to explore.
Edit: I don't imagine the Hero will see much constructed play, but at least it's an interesting take on Heroic.
After the debacle known as Cipher, not much hope left for them.
I get that people don't like mill, but do they not recognize that Phenax is one of the most powerful mill cards ever created? It actually is a very, very good card at what it does. That ability gets out of hand very quickly if built around.
This. People need to get over themselves and realize he's really good.
Phenax is mill, so what. If you have him in play you probably are going to win the game with him in the next turn or 2. He alone mills for 7 and hes gonna have back up, does not even need devotion to turn on.
What? He isn't a creature without devotion. He does nothing without a field of walls.
Do you people play magic? HE NEEDS A FIELD OF WALLS.
It's an instant speed 5/5 trampler for 4. Wtf do you people want seriously? It has applications in populate/ above the curve beats decks, or in Bant control/ flash. I seriously think anyone mad at this card for any reason other than losing an attacker to instant speed wurm, should go home and make their own awesome card game and leave the rest of us alone.
Is that a problem? If Phenax has an audience, his existence is justified, no matter how much whining happens from a small percentage of the playerbase.
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The thing that irritates me more is that Phenax is a u/b god that is spell oriented and once again it needs creatures to be effective. Like in the rtr block Cipher needed to be put on a creature. Why?
Well, WotC, this is why we can't have nice things.
As if BUG wasn't already going to be ridiculous enough, you had to go and give them the hands-down best god in the set. There are going to be so many people angry at getting consistently comboed out by Phenax.
And by "Phenax" I mean "me".
And by "me" I mean, "the existing BUG Wall Ramp deck that I built that was merely lacking a quick wincon."
Well I was hoping for something better for Phenax but given what the other gods are like I'm not surprised. I could build a pretty neat EDH with him in it.
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This. People need to get over themselves and realize he's really good.
What? He isn't a creature without devotion. He does nothing without a field of walls.
Do you people play magic? HE NEEDS A FIELD OF WALLS.
I'll repeat again. FIELD OF WALLS.
Hero of Leina Tower seems fairly good. Funny that Rancor is no longer in Standard during the Heroic mechanic/an enchantment block.
Wish Whelming Wave was an Instant, still fine though.
I just took a look. For standard, there are only 4 creatures with toughness 4+ under phenax's cost. I am sad.
edit: ignore this, for some reason I only saw the colorless ones.
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Hover Barrier and Wall of Frost in the way and then milling for 13 on my end step could be nasty.
It'd be one thing if he milled in a way that wasn't completely....what he does now.
Milling isn't bad. Phenax is.
Shouldn't it be octopodes or at least octopi?
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That's my exact thought. I have a whole EDH deck that's just sea creatures with Thassa as the commander. LOVE Whelming Wave.
I've been using Quest for Ula's Temple for ages.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
There's been a Modern UB Mill deck since last year that's both won Premiers and 4-0ed dallies ;).
Peeps are sleeping on Phenax... there's a TON of support and when we lose that damn uncounterable Supreme Verdict, fun times.
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Is that a problem? If Phenax has an audience, his existence is justified, no matter how much whining happens from a small percentage of the playerbase.
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Nice observation, I completely overlooked that one. My perception of this guy has gone up to "decent".
As if BUG wasn't already going to be ridiculous enough, you had to go and give them the hands-down best god in the set. There are going to be so many people angry at getting consistently comboed out by Phenax.
And by "Phenax" I mean "me".
And by "me" I mean, "the existing BUG Wall Ramp deck that I built that was merely lacking a quick wincon."
WotC, please hire me already.
The plural form of octopus is octopuses, not octopodes or octopi. You should learn the difference between Greek and Latin.
Octopuses is correct.
Octopus is Greek, so 'octopodes' is actually more technically correct. You should learn your etymology a little better.
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