Until Rise of Eldrazi (2010) white hasn't got a 3/3 for 3 mana that didn't have a major drawback. Transcendent Master was the first, also mythic, the first sign of power creep.
It took 3 years for another white 3-drop of this size to get printed - Frontline Medic , oh, and technically Boros Reckoner also belongs here. But that's all.
And now comes the next step, Brimaz reaches much higher power level compared to everything before him. 3/4 and 3 positive abilities that are in good synergy with each other, and a very minor drawback of being legendary. Easily Modern playable (if any deck wants a mono white 3-drop).
Just another proof that Mythic rarity is not about what it was meant to be, but pure power creep and making $$$.
I would love for some way for red to be given some effect that allows you to untap all creatures that attacked this turn and then getting another combat step. It would play so nicely with inspire. Just imagine playing that the turn after you attack with Fellhide.
You untap Fellhide, created another one then attack with those two. Untap them to create 2 more and then attack with all four of them. It would be epic.
I know this is going to sound crazy but it kind of bothers me that the tokens Brimaz makes aren't enchantment creatures. There are tons of enchantment creature token generators in bng and this one would've been awesome in a uw sphere deck with thassa Ephara and heliod
Really pissed off that we didn't get Phenax this week. I mean, of course we get the other 4 gods for this set, as well as several other mythics, but we'll just give the finger to the UB players and make them wait longer.
Anyways, god damn is that white legend something. Talk about power creep.
Could you possibly get upset about anything more trivial?
I guess copying an opponent's Desecration Demon with the minotaur's effect isn't good enough. Should have been 4/4 and did the inspiration for no cost, I guess.
All minotaurs need is a solid 2 drop and a legendary.
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These are all great cards. Perhaps mono W weenie can make a statement with Brimaz but as others said it will be tough to balance the 3-drop slot and there only can be one Brimaz on your side at a time. I feel like splashing U or W (or both) might be the best option. You can sure make a lot of cats with this guy, Heliod, Ephara's Enlightenment and Ajani's Chosen lol.
Not sure how you can accurately compare Cackling Counterpart used from a previous Standard to this new insta-clone in this Standard. The metagames are completely different from each other.
The Felhide Spiritbinder can be used in all sorts of devious ways. Exploiting Tribute triggers? Check. Copying someone else's bomb (or god) then using it against them? Check. Copying devotion ETB goodies like Fanatic of Mogis as others have mentioned? Check. You can even get real crazy and copy Kiora's Follower with multiple Springleaf Drums in play for some Inspired shenanigans. Wow...
Could you possibly get upset about anything more trivial?
Lol sorry but it's not trivial. It's directly on the line of "we hate powerful spells" and "we want everything to be creatures". UB has become, "We're too lazy to think up new design, have some mill!"
I think people are itching to see the UB god to make sure he's not just mill 2.
I like the new Hero of Bladehold cat legend. The Kiki like creature might get something to break him right before rotation like Splinter Twin did. I hope at least, but it'll be hard.
Fated Infatuation seems pretty good in Mono U. Having 4 tidebinder mages and 4 FI will make red and green players rage. Having 4 extra master of waves, or any creature for that matter at instant speed is pretty remarkable. The flexibility of this card is there.
Copying creatures after wipes or removals is really solid and something Mono U didn't have, but now will. This could likely replace bident at least and I don't think Mono U would be any worse for it. Maybe even both Jace and bident bringing the overall curve down while gaining a lot of flexibility at the expense of card draw.
It's probably been mentioned, but oreskos seems to rumble with desecration demon pretty well. Dear god, can you imagine getting an oreskos out on turn 2? I hope you like value town, because we're goin-
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Not sure how you can accurately compare Cackling Counterpart used from a previous Standard to this new insta-clone in this Standard. The metagames are completely different from each other.
Exactly. Cackling Counterpart was in a Standard that didn't have devotion to reward monocolor decks, and it didn't have the amazing ETB ability of Master of Waves to be abused. Without the devotion stuff, there was no reason to play a three-mana self-clone effect over all the other strong spells you could get at thee mana with other colors involved. I
The instant blue is very interesting. The triple blue is rather limiting in what decks it can be played in, and it is true that Mono U is the biggest hitter in standard right now, but I just don't see what benefit Mono U has of playing this, considering the tokens have a converted mana cost of 0, right? So no aid to devotion? Regardless, I'm sure it has much farther reaching implications than standard. Definitely a fun card overall.
Tokens that are copies of cards also copy the mana symbol. That's why Pack Rat tokens count toward Black devotion in monoblack decks.
Those complaining about power creep with Brimaz must not know the history of white creatures. They are always "pushed" with the most efficient power to cost ratios and this guy is a Legendary which is a HUGE downside. If he was 2WW we would be getting a flood of complaints about how he is a waste of a mythic, LOL...
the black one seems the best to me. not as mana intensive and really more what the colors wants. clones have never been amazing, especially the ones that limit the targets to your creatures.
For some reason, I always think that original Ravnica is further back than it actually is.
it's the opposite for me. it always feels like i was just playing Ghazi Glare and Hand In Hand a few years ago. i guess because that's the last time i played Standard...and i haven't really done anything with my life since then. /sigh
isn't the new blue fated card just another cackling counterpart, a card which has seen 0 play in standard. Why is everyone excited about this one?
Cackling Counterpart didn't have a tailor-made tier 1 deck ready and waiting for it.
i don't get why people make absurd comparisons like this that blindly ignore context. yes, they have similar effects. but the environment in which they appear is quite different.
i'm not saying this will undoubtedly be a 4-of in Blue Devotion; but an instant speed way to get a cheaper Master of Waves with flash, possibly in response to a removal spell which would cripple your board presence, or a way to save Thassa from removal, or a way to help turn her back on after a board wipe is definitely going to be a consideration, at least, and deserves a better discussion than "well this one spell like it in a totally different environment saw zero play."
No Phenax makes me sad. I'm also torn. Part of me is hoping that he hasn't been spoiled yet because it's the card Maro aske specifically to spoil and will be doing next Thursday because then I know it's a good or at the very least interesting card. The other part of me hates that thought because it means I would have to wait until next Thursday to find out what be does.
MaRo's article is on Mondays, not Thursdays. So you won't have to wait that long (if he is indeed spoiling it).
sure, Phantasmal Image and Phyrexian Metamorph have never seen tons of play in multiple formats or anything. they especially didn't change the Legendary rule specifically because of the way Clones interacted in a specific format.
Come on Wizards, can't red get a decent rare? Is a 4 mana hasted monored finisher too much to ask for?
Flame-Wreathed Phoenix is what you are looking for, you just need to think about how to exploit it more than a super simple "I drop Hellrider and win" card.
Until Rise of Eldrazi (2010) white hasn't got a 3/3 for 3 mana that didn't have a major drawback.
Transcendent Master was the first, also mythic, the first sign of power creep.
It took 3 years for another white 3-drop of this size to get printed - Frontline Medic , oh, and technically Boros Reckoner also belongs here. But that's all.
And now comes the next step, Brimaz reaches much higher power level compared to everything before him. 3/4 and 3 positive abilities that are in good synergy with each other, and a very minor drawback of being legendary. Easily Modern playable (if any deck wants a mono white 3-drop).
Just another proof that Mythic rarity is not about what it was meant to be, but pure power creep and making $$$.
You untap Fellhide, created another one then attack with those two. Untap them to create 2 more and then attack with all four of them. It would be epic.
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Could you possibly get upset about anything more trivial?
Sadly, no. You still need a way to tap the Minotaur.
Because God forbid I be tired of my color combo always getting the shaft. Always being the last spoiled, and almost never being given something new.
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All minotaurs need is a solid 2 drop and a legendary.
Not sure how you can accurately compare Cackling Counterpart used from a previous Standard to this new insta-clone in this Standard. The metagames are completely different from each other.
The Felhide Spiritbinder can be used in all sorts of devious ways. Exploiting Tribute triggers? Check. Copying someone else's bomb (or god) then using it against them? Check. Copying devotion ETB goodies like Fanatic of Mogis as others have mentioned? Check. You can even get real crazy and copy Kiora's Follower with multiple Springleaf Drums in play for some Inspired shenanigans. Wow...
Easy. Paradise Mantle. Infinite mana of any color
Lol sorry but it's not trivial. It's directly on the line of "we hate powerful spells" and "we want everything to be creatures". UB has become, "We're too lazy to think up new design, have some mill!"
I think people are itching to see the UB god to make sure he's not just mill 2.
Copying creatures after wipes or removals is really solid and something Mono U didn't have, but now will. This could likely replace bident at least and I don't think Mono U would be any worse for it. Maybe even both Jace and bident bringing the overall curve down while gaining a lot of flexibility at the expense of card draw.
Pretty confident the card will see play.
Animate a Springleaf Drum to be a creature somehow and you have the combo there.
Yeah man, mythics nowadays are always pushing power creep further.
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Exactly. Cackling Counterpart was in a Standard that didn't have devotion to reward monocolor decks, and it didn't have the amazing ETB ability of Master of Waves to be abused. Without the devotion stuff, there was no reason to play a three-mana self-clone effect over all the other strong spells you could get at thee mana with other colors involved. I
Tokens that are copies of cards also copy the mana symbol. That's why Pack Rat tokens count toward Black devotion in monoblack decks.
The black one hasn't been spoiled
ikr? :*(
it's the opposite for me. it always feels like i was just playing Ghazi Glare and Hand In Hand a few years ago. i guess because that's the last time i played Standard...and i haven't really done anything with my life since then. /sigh
Cackling Counterpart didn't have a tailor-made tier 1 deck ready and waiting for it.
i don't get why people make absurd comparisons like this that blindly ignore context. yes, they have similar effects. but the environment in which they appear is quite different.
i'm not saying this will undoubtedly be a 4-of in Blue Devotion; but an instant speed way to get a cheaper Master of Waves with flash, possibly in response to a removal spell which would cripple your board presence, or a way to save Thassa from removal, or a way to help turn her back on after a board wipe is definitely going to be a consideration, at least, and deserves a better discussion than "well this one spell like it in a totally different environment saw zero play."
MaRo's article is on Mondays, not Thursdays. So you won't have to wait that long (if he is indeed spoiling it).
sure, Phantasmal Image and Phyrexian Metamorph have never seen tons of play in multiple formats or anything. they especially didn't change the Legendary rule specifically because of the way Clones interacted in a specific format.
turn 1 : Soldier of the Pantheon
turn 2 : Precinct Captain
turn 3 : Brimaz, King of Oreskos
turn 4 : Spear of Heliod
Flame-Wreathed Phoenix is what you are looking for, you just need to think about how to exploit it more than a super simple "I drop Hellrider and win" card.