MTG Salvation

Quote from legendaryrat

Celestial Colonade

Ya, I wasn't around for that set, but it was pointed out to me via supreme verdict a set I missed it's initial launch of.

goddammit... I need easier to cast planeswalker removal not hard erto cast ones... I can't fit in hero's downfall because of the double black.

If only the U/R scry land was in this set.. perhaps I could play U/R control.

Quote from Narvuntien

goddammit... I need easier to cast planeswalker removal not hard erto cast ones... I can't fit in hero's downfall because of the double black.

If only the U/R scry land was in this set.. perhaps I could play U/R control.

well if you're playing grixis in standard then with this set release you should have plenty of mana correction to play hero's downfall at 1bb. u/b scry b/r scry u/b shock and b/r shock...that should be more than enough to correct your mana to play downfall. This card want's to be in mono red as a possible answer, but I highly doubt it'll ever be worth more than .25 rare.
I love red it's one of my favorite colors to play but I see no hope for this card in any format. If we still had checks it could be playable in previous standard very easily in any dual/tricolor deck that played red

This smells like a cycle
And this smells like the Incendiary Command of the cycle.

Quote from Ekkus

Maybe the lesser gods will work with a form of spell devotion (getting counters whenever you cast an instant/sorcery for each devotion it has in it's casting cost)

That would be really cool.

This card is a solid roleplayer- nothing special, but it does something that red couldn't do with a single card otherwise. The RRR in the casting cost is no big deal, because only mono-red or almost mono-red would ever want this effect anyway. Scry 2 adds a lot more to the card than people give it credit.

Crazy that I see comments like "If this could hit players it would only MAYBE be playable." Are you kidding? If this could hit players it would be bonkers.

Quote from IMFPS

You can call this good
You can call this bad

But stop quoting mark rosewater that man is a stupid corporate shill, and a sentient pile of worthless. If he spun any harder we could use him to generate electricity.

The real reason lousy cards like this exist is to make more money for both wotc and the secondary market. And Mr Rosewater's job is to spin up as much flimsy reasons as he can to justify wotc's profligate behavior: trying to bleed us for every nickel they can.

I'm not saying that I'm a big fan of MaRo, but honestly isn't that the point of every business/industry/corporation/salesmen? Of course they're trying to make make money. You can cut them down all you want but in the end that's just how it is. Deal with it, but don't whine, because it could always be worse.

Yeah, this card would have been the bomb if you could target creature or players, because that also counts walkers. But I guess we can't have everything :/

Card is meh.

Quote from IMFPS

...stop quoting mark rosewater that man is a stupid corporate shill, and a sentient pile of worthless. If he spun any harder we could use him to generate electricity.

That's uncalled for.

...wotc's profligate behavior: trying to bleed us for every nickel they can.

WotC is a company and not a charity; it's not evil of them to charge money for a product.

Admittedly, I do not know anything about Magic cards in a modern-day context, but this card seems a little unusual.

I find it strange that it is costed so colour-dense and that, while you can view it optimistically or cynically, there is a conflict between its casting speed and clause about the scry.

The name is funny, and I am not sure what's going on with the art, eh.

There's a chance that there will be a red enchantment :

Whenever you cast a red spell, deal equal to the red mana symbol in it's mana cost to target creature or player.

.....or something similar

Quote from bfellow

Well Magmaquake did hit each planeswalker, but no one played that card outside of Limited.

Yes....but that's not the point. The guy was responding to the person that said "it targets planeswalkers, is that gonna require a rules change".....was just noting that it's not the first card that specifically referred to planeswalkers as something it could damage.

What's not to understand? Red is supposed to be the sorcery color, but this was made as a red answer to planeswalkers.

Gotta say, not having the player damage really kills the appeal, but I'll still think about it for izzet pyromancer/spellheart just based on the scry and 4cmc slot.

Quote from protoaddict

I think the triple red in the casting may be a sign that a spell based devotion mechanic may be raising its head in this set, because honestly that is a lot of red for the effects on its own.

Cards that care about a spells devotion could be interesting though.

That's an intriguing idea...

How would they implement it, though? Count the colored mana symbols on instants and sorceries in the graveyard? Remove a counter from the god card for every colored mana symbol on the spells you cast after it (sort of like removing ice counters from Dark Depths or hatchling counters from Ludevic's Test Subject, but instead of an activated ability, it's a triggered ability)?

Quote from Ekkus

Maybe the lesser gods will work with a form of spell devotion (getting counters whenever you cast an instant/sorcery for each devotion it has in it's casting cost)

It could also count the symbols on cards in the graveyard (Keranos?)
(Nath'd majorly)

Quote from Tackman

Supreme Verdict from the uncounterable cycle.

And Nightveil Specter is the (U/B) Rare Hybrid

This card is just flat out awful...and as others have said, I wouldn't care if it weren't the buy a box promo...

This card is worse than hero's downfall, and at one mana more. I see NO reason why they could not have allowed this card to deal damage to a player. At 5 damage to a player or creature, red decks would still probably rather drop fanatic of mogis on turn 4.

I guess this MIGHT see play in mono red in the sideboard against decks that run elspeth, but honestly, if they got to turn 6 and beyond, you probably lost anyways or are really close and would rather just draw more damage to the face.

Wanna beat Elspeth? RDW needs a Hero of Oxid Ridge.

Well, it lets red hit a couple of green fatties and Obzedat, in addition to planswalkers. Not being able to hit the player makes it pretty hard to like this card for that cost.

As a red mage... ugh. It'll be nice to have something that can take down nearly any planeswalker after +1. But why why WHY is it 4 cmc? It should be 3 CMC if it's not going to be able to hit players. If the scry were guaranteed, then the cost it's at now would be easier to swallow. But right now this card annoys me.

I'm not going to go so far as to say this is a good card, but for those who are outright dismissing this consider the comparison to mizzium mortars.

Two more mana and you gain instant, a point of damage, and the ability to hit walkers. You don't have the flexibility to overload but killing a planeswalker is a serious upside.

I'm not ready to discount this one out of hand yet.

This card is another wasted rare slot for red. Normally this happens with enchantments. . . but it happens almost every block, i guess.

This card is godawful. Worse in every way than hero's downfall. Really its just disgustingly bad design.

4+CC red cards have to basically win the game or almost win the game when they're cast.

The whole "Scry if on your turn" is just insult to injury.

Anyone talking about playing this in red devotion, is being intentionally misleading or doesn't understand that deck, this thing ISN'T going to replace overloaded mortars or Fanatic of Mogis. . . and any Sligh variant "again" has to run game winning cards at that cost if at all.

Well at least its not mythic I guess.

This card pushes all the wrong buttons... Mizzium Mortars shouldn't even be mentioned with it.

It's a functional card, but inelegantly developed by you-know-who, period.

Quote from Bolas, the Mindsculptor

It's a functional card, but inelegantly developed by you-know-who, period.

I don't know; who?

We shall not mention his name! Speak of him and he'll find us!

http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Born_of_the_Gods

Lol

I'm guessing they're trying to do red's version of Cryptic Command... Obviously wasn't close.

Or

A double Magma Jet. Where's the scry 4?

Quote from Bolas, the Mindsculptor

A double Magma Jet. Where's the scry 4?

Honestly, Scry 4 would be insanely playable.