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The gods of Born of the Gods!
Ephara UW
Phenax UB
Mogis BR
Xenagos RG
Karametra GW
All gods become creatures when their devotion to Color A and Color B is higher than 7.
They all still have indestructibility and they have one static or triggered ability, but no activated ability.
As far as the Rumor Mill staff can tell, this source is legitimate, but as always with unofficial information it is not confirmed until spoiled through official channels and there is a chance it is incorrect. -viper
The gods of Born of the Gods!
Ephara UW
Phenax UB
Mogis BR
Xenagos RG
Karametra GW
All gods become creatures when their devotion to Color A and Color B is higher than 7.
They all still have indestructibility and they have one static or triggered ability, but no activated ability.
Are any of them below 4 CMC? Would love if BR was an aggressive 3 mana.
Are any of them below 4 CMC? Would love if BR was an aggressive 3 mana.
Seeing as they are supposedly "less" almighty than the 5 main gods, I don't see why not. I'm also not sure if the colors in OP's post are the CMCs or not.
My personal guess is that the OP was just defining what color each god is. While most are obvious to those paying attention, if you're light on flavor, it is helpful.
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I am not sure if I am misunderstanding it or what. They require seven mana of devotion to each color? So fourteen total mana symbols? Or is it a and/or type thing?
Ephara, God of Something2WU
Legendary Enchantment Creature- God [M]
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to white and blue is less than seven, Ephara isn't a creature (Each W and U in the mana costs of permanents you control counts toward your devotion to white and blue).
Whenever you cast a spell that is white or blue, other creatures you control gain lifelink and flying until end of turn.
5/6
Phenax, God of Something3UB
Legendary Enchantment Creature- God [M]
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to blue and black is less than seven, Ephara isn't a creature (Each U and B in the mana costs of permanents you control counts toward your devotion to blue and black).
At the beginning of your upkeep you draw a card and each opponent loses 1 life.
4/5
I think I read it mentioned somewhere that the "minor" gods are not necessarily less powerful than the "major" ones, it's just that their domains of worship are more narrow. For example, Purphoros is the god of Passion and Creation, while Keranos is "just" the god of Inspiration/Prophecy. (from what I can gather)
So with that said, I expect them to be pretty much in the same ballpark as the five we have already. 3-4 mana cost, 5/5 or a bit larger.
I am not sure if I am misunderstanding it or what. They require seven mana of devotion to each color? So fourteen total mana symbols? Or is it a and/or type thing?
that would make no sense. they clearly need 7 devotion altogether, meaning for example 5 to red and 2 to white and so on.
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that would make no sense. they clearly need 7 devotion altogether, meaning for example 5 to red and 2 to white and so on.
Makes the most sense.
You could in theory reach devotion with only having a single color but they probably have their two colors in their casting cost so you at least have to have both colors of mana available.
I guess if this is true that means the spoiled centaur art isn't Iroas like everyone is speculating. Makes sense seeing as centaurs are G not RW in Theros
Makes the most sense.
You could in theory reach devotion with only having a single color but they probably have their two colors in their casting cost so you at least have to have both colors of mana available.
Yup, but there's still an outside chance that they use hybrid mana (incredibly unlikely, but it's there) which might make them have 2 devotion on their own (not sure how that works exactly). Interesting tidbit for sure, thanks little birdie.
5 devotion is hard enough to get in a lot of constructed games, let alone seven. Not sure if they will be good enough for constructed.
Depends if hybrid count double or not. If they do a single Nightveil turns on Phenax and in that context it would also make sense why they bumped the devotion count to 7.
5 devotion is hard enough to get in a lot of constructed games, let alone seven. Not sure if they will be good enough for constructed.
this depends a lot on what the static ability's are. for instance if the U/B god has a mechanic like bob does and is indestructible then its gonna be playable even if it costs 4
Well, multicoloured cards have two mana symbols at a minimum, including the gods. So the devotion you're aiming for that doesnt come from the God itself is essentially 5, where it is 4 from the original gods, so not that big of a deal.
I agree with this. Even looking at it from a limited perspective, Blue is nearly impossible to get devotion for (which is probably good), but the other colors are all pretty simple. Not to mention that you play two colors in limited (more than not), so now likely more of your deck will add to devotion opposed to just half-ish. (Oddly enough Green has the hardest time after Blue just because every other color has some decent cards that count for two.)
Constructed can do anything. If the God in question is worth playing... The deck builders will find a way to make the devotion work. Wasn't Frostburn Weird a thing in the recent Blue devition deck? I think that's evidence enough.
There is almost no way that hybrid mana will count as two devotion. It just doesn't follow from the way converted mana cost works.
If the god work was intended they calculated both devotion, and color identity clearly state as being 3w/3r.
one could compare that to coalition victory requirement,it can be 5 creature of one color but it can also be one of 5 color or 3 of 2 color and other combination work aslong as each color is there.
So in this case (example R/W) it will cost red (4 total if the hybrid minotaur there) and white (4 total is the hybrid minautor there) making it an 8 count devotion.
Didn't we get Iroas's art spoiled for us a while back? Shouldn't he be on the list somewhere?
Yes, we did. This is the only reason why I am a little bit skeptical about this. I think that there should be Iroas instead of Phenax. It would make also sense storywise (three patron gods of the three poleis vs. minotaurs sent by Mogis, and the big baddie Xenagos).
Of course, from a point of view of a flavor-ignoring person, it makes more sense to throw the five allied color gods here and enemy in JOU.
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There is almost no way that hybrid mana will count as two devotion. It just doesn't follow from the way converted mana cost works.
There is almost no way it won't. Reckoner counts as 3 devotion for Purphoros, and as 3 devotion for Heliod. Devotion asks for mana symbols, and they are undoubtedly there. So a card checking for both R and W devotion summed will see Reckoner as 6. This means that playing a HHH card after a god will turn it on immediately. Hence, I also think they are gonna be smaller and their static abilities weaker.
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The gods of Born of the Gods!
Ephara UW
Phenax UB
Mogis BR
Xenagos RG
Karametra GW
All gods become creatures when their devotion to Color A and Color B is higher than 7.
They all still have indestructibility and they have one static or triggered ability, but no activated ability.
Are any of them below 4 CMC? Would love if BR was an aggressive 3 mana.
Seeing as they are supposedly "less" almighty than the 5 main gods, I don't see why not. I'm also not sure if the colors in OP's post are the CMCs or not.
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Ephara, God of Something 2WU
Legendary Enchantment Creature- God [M]
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to white and blue is less than seven, Ephara isn't a creature (Each W and U in the mana costs of permanents you control counts toward your devotion to white and blue).
Whenever you cast a spell that is white or blue, other creatures you control gain lifelink and flying until end of turn.
5/6
Phenax, God of Something 3UB
Legendary Enchantment Creature- God [M]
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to blue and black is less than seven, Ephara isn't a creature (Each U and B in the mana costs of permanents you control counts toward your devotion to blue and black).
At the beginning of your upkeep you draw a card and each opponent loses 1 life.
4/5
UBRKess, Dissident MageUBR - Controlling Dissidents
GRhonas the IndomitableG - Indomitable Four Drops
WUBOloro, Ageless AsceticWUB - Loot & Renanimate
So with that said, I expect them to be pretty much in the same ballpark as the five we have already. 3-4 mana cost, 5/5 or a bit larger.
that would make no sense. they clearly need 7 devotion altogether, meaning for example 5 to red and 2 to white and so on.
Pioneer: WURFaerie fires BRGDragons
ModernBGElves WRBurn UR Fires Turns URGift Storm UG Twiddle Storm
Makes the most sense.
You could in theory reach devotion with only having a single color but they probably have their two colors in their casting cost so you at least have to have both colors of mana available.
Yup, but there's still an outside chance that they use hybrid mana (incredibly unlikely, but it's there) which might make them have 2 devotion on their own (not sure how that works exactly). Interesting tidbit for sure, thanks little birdie.
I'm betting this is terribly incorrect and I need to go to sleep.
Depends if hybrid count double or not. If they do a single Nightveil turns on Phenax and in that context it would also make sense why they bumped the devotion count to 7.
this depends a lot on what the static ability's are. for instance if the U/B god has a mechanic like bob does and is indestructible then its gonna be playable even if it costs 4
I agree with this. Even looking at it from a limited perspective, Blue is nearly impossible to get devotion for (which is probably good), but the other colors are all pretty simple. Not to mention that you play two colors in limited (more than not), so now likely more of your deck will add to devotion opposed to just half-ish. (Oddly enough Green has the hardest time after Blue just because every other color has some decent cards that count for two.)
Constructed can do anything. If the God in question is worth playing... The deck builders will find a way to make the devotion work. Wasn't Frostburn Weird a thing in the recent Blue devition deck? I think that's evidence enough.
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Either that, or their effects are not as impressive as the 5 Major Gods.
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If the god work was intended they calculated both devotion, and color identity clearly state as being 3w/3r.
one could compare that to coalition victory requirement,it can be 5 creature of one color but it can also be one of 5 color or 3 of 2 color and other combination work aslong as each color is there.
So in this case (example R/W) it will cost red (4 total if the hybrid minotaur there) and white (4 total is the hybrid minautor there) making it an 8 count devotion.
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Yes, we did. This is the only reason why I am a little bit skeptical about this. I think that there should be Iroas instead of Phenax. It would make also sense storywise (three patron gods of the three poleis vs. minotaurs sent by Mogis, and the big baddie Xenagos).
Of course, from a point of view of a flavor-ignoring person, it makes more sense to throw the five allied color gods here and enemy in JOU.
There is almost no way it won't. Reckoner counts as 3 devotion for Purphoros, and as 3 devotion for Heliod. Devotion asks for mana symbols, and they are undoubtedly there. So a card checking for both R and W devotion summed will see Reckoner as 6. This means that playing a HHH card after a god will turn it on immediately. Hence, I also think they are gonna be smaller and their static abilities weaker.
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